Agree :thumbup:

I find this whole thread ODD.

Krystal was online just 45 minutes ago, yet she couldn't be bothered to update her own thread?

Why would anyone send money to a vet who has never examined Melody?

If Melody is placed in rescue, those who wish can make a tax deductible donation directly to the rescue to offset her treatment. It's the only safe way to donate money for her care.

I hate to say it, I am beginning to have my doubts about this whole story.

I agree 100%
If this is all true, I can't see how anybody could allow a sweet little puppy to suffer:confused: Not doing the right thing for Melody, which is IMHO , turning her over to a rescue where she can be fully cared for propperly, and NOT taking her to a vet who specializes in LS cases, is being neglectful. Yes, I understand Melody is being treated with medication, but how long is this going to sustain her? It takes a while for the meds to even work, meanwhile , Melody is still suffering and in a great deal of pain and confusion.
My opinion , is that this is cruel and inhumane. To allow a animal to be very ill , and not get do what is in the best interest of Melody. Makes me feel very sad and :mad:

I know everyone is upset (I am too)...But, I hope everyone can understand though, that pups that have a Liver Shunt, and who are very, very small and tiny and are still very week, are NOT a good candidate for Liver Shunt surgery. It would be very, very wrong to jump right into LS surgery (IMO) with Melody. IMO she needs to be on the proper medication, and the proper diet (and the proper amount fed to her at least 5-6 times a day), she needs to get the Lactulose dose correct that she is pooping at least 3x a day and that it is like soft ice cream, and she has to gain a little weight and be a little stronger, otherwise she would probably die on the table.

I do think this pup should have started on the proper protocol when the LS symptoms first started to show. And alot of times general Vets do not know this proper protocol and they do refer you to a specialist. I live in NY and we have some of the best Vets here. When my Roxy's BAT came back sky high, my Vet was honest and said this is not his field, and he referred me to a specialist. So that could be the case here too, maybe her Vet did tell her to see a specialist and maybe she just never followed thru - IDK...

I hope things work out for the best though....

Rescue would be my first option if I couldn't provide the proper care :(

You gotta be kidding:mad:

But how do they know shes not a good canidate for surgery when she hasnt seen a specialist

Oh....did you happen to SEE her?

No kidding. There is NO specialist in the world that will prescribe like that. I am just astounded that anyone would believe this.

After all I have read I don't know why I am shocked.

This is someone with little knowledge who has made a bad decision and will not admit it telling us what she thinks we want to hear. Clearly must also think we are all stupid.

They don't. I have not even heard the word scintigraphy....or have I missed it somehow?
And why all the secret docs? Seriously? This all defies logic.

I probably should clarify...YT doesn't allow solicitation for donations from members. We do, of course, allow and encourage rescues to be a big part of our community here - and we *love* our rescue members here. But please understand, the rescues here have official charity tax-filing status, they aren't individual members seeking donations for their pets.

I'm heartbroken that your baby is sick, and I hope that we can help you find a solution for her.

[QUOTE=Ladymom;2954538]I find this whole thread ODD.

Krystal was online just 45 minutes ago, yet she couldn't be bothered to update her own thread?

Why would anyone send money to a vet who has never examined Melody?

If Melody is placed in rescue, those who wish can make a tax deductible donation directly to the rescue to offset her treatment. It's the only safe way to donate money for her care.

[B]I hate to say it, I am beginning to have my doubts about this whole story.[QUOTE]

I vowed to stay away from this. I read through this entire thread and found it to be exhausting, but had to post that these are such excellent points.:thumbup:

Maybe surgery is not presently an option, but I can tell you that the people who have her don't know that...or the woman helping. She has never seen this puppy...and I am not sure at this point if a vet has either.

This puppy needs to be with people who CAN afford her and give her the best of veterinary care. Sorry, but she is NOT getting that. I cannot take her, but know rescues who can; and they would do what I would do...take her IMMEDIATELY to a specialist!!!

Sometimes I think this is all made up...either a troll or a scam.......and then I actually HOPE it is because I know what the outcome is going to be if this is a real live puppy. I hope I am proven wrong.....but seriously doubt it.

this cannot be for real?:confused:

the op was on-line, said nothing, and yet we're supposed to believe...based on what i have no idea.....that melody is not only "doing better" but isn't even a good candidate for the stinkin' surgery? HUH?

[quote=MaddiesMommie;2954631][QUOTE=Ladymom;2954538]I find this whole thread ODD.

Krystal was online just 45 minutes ago, yet she couldn't be bothered to update her own thread?

Why would anyone send money to a vet who has never examined Melody?

If Melody is placed in rescue, those who wish can make a tax deductible donation directly to the rescue to offset her treatment. It's the only safe way to donate money for her care.

[B]I hate to say it, I am beginning to have my doubts about this whole story.
Yep...there are many of us who are wishing we could forget this poor puppy. :(

Kathleen, You gave an update on another Thread at 0543AM this morning, and you are just now updating this Thread at 1:18PM, 7.5 hours later?::confused:

Without seeing a specialist? Without proper testing? Pretty hard for me to grasp. This thing is just unbelievable.
Do you live in CA? Have you seen this puppy? Seriously. I would not be vouching for someone if I had nothing to hang my hat on; but that is just me.

Heh....and only after we pointed it out. Priorities. :rolleyes:

Yeah, really!

No legitimate vet is going to accept donations on behalf of a dog he has never examined. How would he know if he could even treat her?

I think everyone needs to hold into their wallets.

Yes she needs to see a specialist, however, from what I have seen, a small pup (2lbs.) and as week as she is, because she hasn't been on the proper medicine, the Dr. I am sure, would want her to gain a little weight and strength.

Her liver can not process toxins, the toxins come from food, they don't just appear, so until she starts on the proper food, the proper amount and the proper spaced out meal times, is when those now small amounts of toxins can be properly handled. The Metro (antib's) helps with the bad bacteria and the Lactulose binds those smaller amounts of toxins in her body and rids them thru waste. The Demarian, is a liver aide. This is the proper protocol to Medically Manage a Liver Shunt, whether is be forever, or just until a successful surgery can happen.

Here is another thing, do we have solid test results that Melody does in fact a 1 Liver Shunt. She could very well have MVD, and that mean ONLY medical management, NO surgery.

Also, Dr. Center prefers Medical Management rather than jumping into Shunt Surgery...

But YES - if she hasn't seen a specialist, this is really where she has to start :(

Sorry, the doctor don't call that early.

I just wrote a long explanation on certain circumstances pertaining to Melody and lost the info.

I was on this computer online yesterday and placing calls to vet specialists to obtain information.
I got education about rescue and UT in Tenn.
Just to let know that this Dr. everyone is referring too is on vacation and not accepting only under certain conditions.

More to follow... just wanted everyone to calm down and take a breath.
Kathleen

Oh, I totally agree. This pup is very sick, and even if she is getting on track with Meds and Food, the owners need to have funds to care for her, and when she gets strong enough to go thru surgery, they have to have funds to pay for that surgery and anything else that may come about. And time is wasting that's for sure...A Specialist needs to see her, and that is the only person who can guide this pups care, properly....:(

Now, that we have calm down a little bit, I'll continue.
The specialist I spoke with yesterday all agree that Melody is probably in the best place she can possible be at the present. She has Krystal and Lilly and she really needs them. It would create more stress on Melody to remove her.
I talk with Krystal and she's taking her medication and special diet. Melody is not running into wall or having pain. The one thing she has going for her is, she not having pain or seizers. I told her if her condition changes to call the vet and get additional medications. Her vet feels that with the medications and the diet, it will take a few days to clear the toxins out of her system.
I"m not done yet, more to follow..
Don't want to lose all this information again.

Which Rescue are you refering to? Dr Tobias has assistance that CAN help. Have you contacted Dr Centers at Cornell? You need to start with this.Northern California Veterinary Specialists, Inc. / Nuclear scintigraphy

So you are saying that a busy specialist gave advice over the telephone about what's best for Melody without ever having examined her and did so for a person who doesn't even own the dog???

Just to let everyone know, Melody is under constant vet care. Her doctor has indeed run very expensive test on her and knows her condition. The main concern now, as someone mention about is her.... size and weight. When your dealing with a normal size yorkie 5-7 lbs., your talking a whole different story. Many of the specialist will not do a liver shunt on a very small yorkie unless the dog is surrender and then they don't really have to be responsible to the owner. Don't get upset... this is what I was told yesterday.

More to follow.

I don't know who this specialist, but I also don't know how he could make a judgement like that if you told him the WHOLE story and history.

Just one question, Kathleen: Are you signing on to care for all of Melody's care for the rest of her life if she stays with Krystal who could not afford to care for her and let her stay sick for six months? This is not saying Krystal does not care....This is pointing out the obvious. You must have good intentions....I just think you are not thinking clearly about this. I hope you read and reread what people have said. I know you must feel everyone is picking on Krystal...that is not the case.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT KRYSTAL.

Don't try to convince me that this puppy needs anything but good veterinary care. No human or pup bond is going to take the place of that. YOU have decided out of convenience to treat her with meds. You said that....that you wanted to get your surgery out of the way. You are trying to say that is not the case, but clearly it is. This puppy could have already been flown to a home/rescue that would have already taken her to a specialist. They would not be CALLING vets for medical advice!!!!!!!

What expensive test did he run???? Let us start saying exactly what things are.

Most specialists will not do surgery on a small yorkie? Are you serious? Told by WHOM???

Hi,
How well do you know this program and how it works? They were funded by the AkC for research... that's why the yorkies have to be surrendered and they only place in UT homes for a reason.
Kathleen

Kathleen, I gave you a place that can give Melody Scintigraphy. Do you know what that is? Melody needs this asap to determine a Shunt. What expensve test have been run? And by a vet. No way. Only a specialist can preform the test that are needed.