tracheal collapse and stones in bladder...help me My 7 year old miniature yorkie Sammy, recently went to the vets for his yearly blood work, all is good but the vet noticed that a slight limp of his leg concerned him, he tore his ACL 4 years ago and had surgery, we had x'rays done up and he noticed that he had tracheal collapse disease, an enlarged heart, stone in his bladder, also his knee cap is out of place, we went for a second opinion at Guelph University for small animals, they have told me that they dont think they should proceed with a surgery for his knee because he has a slight chance to recover from the tracheal collapse, I agree to not go through it, but we need to get rid of the large stone in his bladder but cannot put him to sleep also, I have checked on the outcome of the tube surgery down his windpipe and it's not very successful, I can live with his knee cap but the stone can block his penis and have no choice to get the surgery, I am going crazy, sick, crying and alone, I don't know what to do, I have been on the computer for hours and hours for the pass 2 days. The Vet put him on a special food for his stone, I want to not give it to him cause I want him to live for a long time, if he doesn't pass the stone he might live longer, I don't know. How long can this disease go on? I don't know what to do..... Julie |
I'm so sorry you and your baby are going through this, you sound really frustrated :(. Guelph Univ. is very good, aren't they? Isn't that a teaching hospital? If so, that's really great that you took him there. I want to make sure I understand the issues - so, surgery really cannot be done right now due the vulnerability of the trachea, is that correct? But he needs that stone out, right? What about breaking the stone up w/ laser/shock wave - is that an option? Bc that may be able to be done using sedation (not anesthesia). W/ the special food - are you saying you don't want to give him the food? |
I would give him the food and consult maybe Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care as she is a nutritionist and see what she recommends to dissolve the stone. I know lemon is real acidic and can dissolve stones and drinking a ton of water is really important so i would recommend spring water and giving fresh water 3-4 times a day as mine drink more water when it is fresh. Stones have to do with alkaline vs acidic nature in body. A nutritionist should be able to help balance out the body with foods. Do not worry about the knee other than keeping the weight down as that will put less pressure on the knee. The orthopedic we have been consulting for acl said 80% of dogs do not need acl surgery in small dogs if they are not walking with the leg lifted let it go as scar tissue will build up thus creating ligament and whether surgery or not they will get arthritis |
Thank you for your response, I will be reading up on the Nutritionist to see what I can give him, I will keep on giving his urinary food also with lots of water, he loves both so that is a good thing, I will definitely hold off on his leg, he can still run and be happy, I don't want to see him go through that pain again. I will talk to the vet to get me in at the Guelph University again, will bring a friend cause I cannot ask questions with my heart in that stage, Sam is with me all the time, I cannot leave him, he is my child, I have the ok Friday to bring him to work with me (very happy) for now I can be there if there is a blockage and get him to emergency right away. I have read up on the laser/shock wave and will look into it on Monday thank you for that. I will read up more on some threads in here, I can see I am not alone and I hope all the best to the others, we need happy endings...... Julie |
Do you know what type of bladder stone he has? There are two types, struvite and calcium oxylate. Struvite stones can often be dissolved with a change of diet, while calcium oxalate stones cannot. Canine Struvite Bladder Stones Canine Oxalate Bladder Stones |
I have no idea what type of stone, I didn't think they had types, on the x-rays it was right in the middle of his stomach, probably the size of a pea, which is pretty big for a 10lbs dog I would say, this is all new to me, I will read up on it, I have tried to contact a nutritionist, but no answer, will try again. Vet thinks its an old stone which he had 4years ago, I know he had 3 little ones which we thought passed then. |
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Wow so much happening with your little one, Im so sorry. I don't have any advice on any thing but the stones. If those stones work their way down and block the penis there's no way he will be able to pee and his bladder will bust. I know because my Mickey had the surgery 2 times in 6 months, he could not pee. but with having all the other problems I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how your vet would know what food to put him on with out having the stone out to see what kind of stone it is there for knowing what prescription food he needs for that stone. Bottle water helps it really does. we have what I thought was good tap water But it wasn't good for my Yorkie. hes doing great with the bottled water.with all the other problems I don't see how your little one is not in pain. I will keep him in my Thoughts and prayers. I hope the vet can figure out how to help him. keep us updated. |
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Hello there, I have an update on Sammy's stones and tracheal collapse, we have him on Natural supplements, he is peeing allot, I do not leave him alone more than 5 hours so I leave work at lunch everyday to get him out for a pee, he is doing great, I do not see pain, I will be going back to the vets and see if the stones have dissolved, I am praying every night that it will, his breathing has not changed he is still breathing heavy but not coughing. I will keep you posted; I have been reading quite a bit of these threads and praying for the others hurting. Julie and Sammy |
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Sammy is not doing so good now,(but you would not know it) just need to talk to someone about this, if people can give me advise, the result is the stone(cystic calculi) is not dissolving, it got twice as big in 3 months, went to Guelph Univ. and says that Sammy has a grade 4/4 collapsing trachea, they are recommending the stem surgery if he stops breathing during the surgery, I don't know if I should go through with it, chances are slim, very costly and lots of complications. I am thinking of not doing anything till he gets blocked or if he bleeds in his urine so I can have him a bit longer in my life, his surgery is Sept 16th. Is that the right thing? Hurting Mommy of Sammy |
If he's over weight at all he needs a diet asap. Not all at once but slowley, start by cutting out about 1/4 of his daily intake. The weight puts strain on the heart and the treachea. It's better for them to be slightly under weight then an ounce over weight. |
hi Lillymae, Sammy is in shape, he is 10lbs, he is not eating any table food at all (which a steak dinner sounds good to give him). I will be emailling the doctor on what she thinks is good for him to stay longer with me without suffering, what is the % in coming out of the surgury. |
I'm sorry I'm a lil confused is the surgery for the knee, tracheal or the stones? I have a 12 yr old female that has an enlarged heart and thats from having a heart murmur. It gets enlarged from over working, my Buffy is on heart meds to slow the heart down. Because when it is enlarged and they get excited and beating fast it push's the tracheal up against the spine which makes the breathing passage very very narrow, you must keep him calm because he can panic and have a heart attack. I don't know why they would do surgery under this condition my Buffy is pretty well under control and my vet will not put her under for nothing, not even to clean her teeth, it too dangerous ( in my opinion only) Also I have 2 with a bad knee, Buffy the 12 yo has had it since she was 5 back then young and full of life she would run a lot and the knee would shift and she could not walk on it until I would massage it back in place and off she went again. Now she no longer runs like that so the knee has not shift in 5 yrs. also my 3 yo Duncan but his does not shift he only skips when doing a slow run but when in full run you can not tell anything is wrong with his leg. The doctor said that its ok as long as he is not in pain to leave it alone but just do not let him jump off of things because he can brake that knee. I'm going to look up some info for you from this girl who had a yorkie with stones and no longer has them with out surgery, I think she had him on some dog food that was just for that problem. I'll be back later.;) |
It sounds like your getting some good advice to help you threw this tramatic time. Just wanted to send Sammie some good wishes and Yorkies prayer's to get him threw whatever lies ahead for him. Hugs, Welcome to Yt. Glad you found us. |
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