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marcerella02 11-08-2008 04:44 PM
layla is having a hard time keeping her food down
 
Lay has had an off day- we travelled about 8 hours yesterday from ohio to home which is hard on her since we haven't done it in a while- so today she was sleepy this morning but that is normal- so this afternoon she ate a bit and then a few hours later threw it all up- Lay rarely throws up food- if she pukes it is bile in the morning- but she was acting fine- drinking- had a good poop today - has been playing- had her Kong (with treats in it) and then ate some more- and just puked that up. But otherwise seems normal- what should I do?

zoeybear 11-08-2008 05:05 PM
Poor Layla. Hope she is feeling better.

Ellie May 11-08-2008 05:33 PM
Watch her very closely. I wouldn't be too concerned with one puke but she keeps throwing up food and that is what Ellie did when she had pancreatitis...she couldn't hold anything down all day.

Mom to Hot Rod 11-08-2008 05:36 PM
I hope she feels better soon. Hopefully her little system just out of wack from travelling. I know I get all confused when I go out of town.

MyPeanutAbbyGra 11-08-2008 05:45 PM
Poor little Layla :( Maybe it's just the traveling that threw her off? Abby threw up yesterday, which is unusual for her too. Of course it has me a bit scared because she's supposed to be spayed on Tues. Anymore throwing up and we're rescheduling.

I hope Layla feels better :hug:

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2322582)
Watch her very closely. I wouldn't be too concerned with one puke but she keeps throwing up food and that is what Ellie did when she had pancreatitis...she couldn't hold anything down all day.
Well she is full of energy so i'm not overly worried- she doesn't seem overly bothered- keeps asking for her Kong ... lol... I think it is her NV freeze dried medallions actually- just started on those and i think they are bothering her- i'm going to look into the raw maybe.. the fat is quite high in the freeze dried- although she isn't getting much of it- i might rehydrate it too before giving it to her which should bring the fat back down to normal range. SHe also started a new "multivitamin" and her tummy is sensitive so probably all at once plus the car ride- was just too much for her- i just fed her around 8:30 a normal meal- no NV or multivitamin and gave her a bit of yogurt and she has kept that down- if she can keep it down until around 9:30 i think we'll be good for the night *fingers crossed* if it continues tomorrow we'll go to the ER vet

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MyPeanutAbbyGra (Post 2322609)
Poor little Layla :( Maybe it's just the traveling that threw her off? Abby threw up yesterday, which is unusual for her too. Of course it has me a bit scared because she's supposed to be spayed on Tues. Anymore throwing up and we're rescheduling.

I hope Layla feels better :hug:
dont' you just hate that? We are probably more bothered by it than they are!

Patti 11-08-2008 06:16 PM
Hopefully Layla was just a little off from the trip. Lastweek I took Roxie with me to run a few errands and it ended up we were gone about 3 hours which she isn't use to and that night she had diahrrea and threw up, but the next day she was fine,

Yorkiedaze 11-08-2008 06:19 PM
I wouldn't go with raw meat whatsoever! I'd let her digestive track rest for about 24 hours and give her water. Put her on brown rice with a little cooked lean beef and see if she can keep that down.

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2322681)
Hopefully Layla was just a little off from the trip. Lastweek I took Roxie with me to run a few errands and it ended up we were gone about 3 hours which she isn't use to and that night she had diahrrea and threw up, but the next day she was fine,
funny how quickly their little system gets thrown off eh?

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 2322687)
I wouldn't go with raw meat whatsoever! I'd let her digestive track rest for about 24 hours and give her water. Put her on brown rice with a little cooked lean beef and see if she can keep that down.
well due to the pancreatitis she can't have beef- our choices are fish or turkey. And i need to use the NV freeze dried for the minerals and cal/phos (as per our nutritionist) we are definitly going to take a break from the freeze dried for a few days while i try to reintroduce her multivitamin- which seems to go over fine if she has it in the morning- but last night she ended it up having it at night because her schedule was all messed up from travelling :confused:

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 2322687)
I wouldn't go with raw meat whatsoever! I'd let her digestive track rest for about 24 hours and give her water. Put her on brown rice with a little cooked lean beef and see if she can keep that down.
oh I did give her just her regular food no NV or anything with a bit of yogurt and so far so good- we played a bit and now she is in bed- i think that is her way of saying she is ready to go to sleep :)

Erin 11-08-2008 06:27 PM
Have you tried supplementing pro-biotics? Also, what if you cooked the raw medallions and added some rice just until she feels better? I don't know if that will work but its a couple ideas for you!

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 2322707)
Have you tried supplementing pro-biotics? Also, what if you cooked the raw medallions and added some rice just until she feels better? I don't know if that will work but its a couple ideas for you!
yes she is on a pro biotic which i love and i think is helping overall with her health! I dont' currently have raw medallions- i have freeze dried- i emailed NV to see if i add water to it what will the fat content be- once they get back to me i'll go from there- i'm just going to keep her off of it until then.

tonight she had some white fish- turkey- sweet potato and some spinich but things are looking good- she is keeping it down :)

LuvMySissy 11-08-2008 06:34 PM
We hope Layla will feel all better in the morning!!!

Erin 11-08-2008 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2322711)
yes she is on a pro biotic which i love and i think is helping overall with her health! I dont' currently have raw medallions- i have freeze dried- i emailed NV to see if i add water to it what will the fat content be- once they get back to me i'll go from there- i'm just going to keep her off of it until then.

tonight she had some white fish- turkey- sweet potato and some spinich but things are looking good- she is keeping it down :)
We tried some freeze dried Stella and Chewy's recently and they had issues for a day or two. I decided to just use it as a food topper for their home cooked food for now. I'm sure that's what it is :)

marcerella02 11-08-2008 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 2322721)
We tried some freeze dried Stella and Chewy's recently and they had issues for a day or two. I decided to just use it as a food topper for their home cooked food for now. I'm sure that's what it is :)
Oh Erin thanks so much! good to hear! I think i will still go slow with both it and the supplement instead of bringing them BOTH in the same day- i imagine the NV is quite rich and i think i'll start hydrating it before mixing it in with her food- she sure likes it but it just doen'st like her... yet!

Ellie May 11-09-2008 06:48 AM
I probably wouldn't be too concerned since she stopped but Ellie didn't have any symptoms either except throwing up... She did get really itchy that morning but it may have been allergies. Anytime a pup throws up with numbers as high as Layla's, I would be concerned if it continued...

How high in fat is the raw?

marcerella02 11-09-2008 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2323150)
I probably wouldn't be too concerned since she stopped but Ellie didn't have any symptoms either except throwing up... She did get really itchy that morning but it may have been allergies. Anytime a pup throws up with numbers as high as Layla's, I would be concerned if it continued...

How high in fat is the raw?
Layla had a great night last night- kept down her last meal and her yogurt- work up with a gurgly tummy but probably because there wasn't much food in it :p I gave her some yogurt and that took care of things.

The raw is 6 % the freeze dried is 25% in it's freeze dried state- although I think it would go back to normal once rehydrated- but i'm stopping it until I hear back from her nutritionist and NV. I'm just going to give her her regular meals with her pro biotics and lypase supplement. She did really great on that before i started with the NV.

Yorkieluv 11-09-2008 07:45 AM
The raw isn't actually 6%, you have to convert it to a dry matter basis because of all the moisture, so it's actually higher than that. To find out the fat/protein/etc. on a dry matter basis of canned or raw, you have to take the percentage of fat listed divided by (100 minus the percentage of moisture), so in this case you would take 6 divided by 32 (b/c the moisture content is 68%) and you get almost 19%.

MyPeanutAbbyGra 11-09-2008 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2323187)
Layla had a great night last night- kept down her last meal and her yogurt- work up with a gurgly tummy but probably because there wasn't much food in it :p I gave her some yogurt and that took care of things.

The raw is 6 % the freeze dried is 25% in it's freeze dried state- although I think it would go back to normal once rehydrated- but i'm stopping it until I hear back from her nutritionist and NV. I'm just going to give her her regular meals with her pro biotics and lypase supplement. She did really great on that before i started with the NV.
:cheer: so glad to hear she's doing better :)

marcerella02 11-09-2008 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv (Post 2323212)
The raw isn't actually 6%, you have to convert it to a dry matter basis because of all the moisture, so it's actually higher than that. To find out the fat/protein/etc. on a dry matter basis of canned or raw, you have to take the percentage of fat listed divided by (100 minus the percentage of moisture), so in this case you would take 6 divided by 32 (b/c the moisture content is 68%) and you get almost 19%.
hmm... this i DID not know! Thanks!


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