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YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 12:32 PM
My new puppy is having seizures
 
Hi everyone, my 6 month old yorkie is having seizures and on medication rite now. does anyone here have the same problem and have a more natural solution to it? Please advise, thank you in advance.

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 12:34 PM
Seeing as he is on meds...what is the diagnosis. There is some underlying medical problem that is causing it. If you share that you will be able to get more info to help out.

Good luck.

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 12:39 PM
Well we didn't know till i saw it in person when he was having one. I took him to the vet and had a blood test. The vet said everything same out perfectly normal. sugar level was good and his liver was perfectly fine and seem to be a very healthy puppy. we were feeding him Science diet before but he stopped eating it and we are now feeeding him royal canine. Do you think its the food? We been giving him medication every 12 hours. and the seizure stopped. but the vet said he should be real mellow and sleepy while on medications, but he is still super hyper and very active. Do you think this could be the cause? Please advise. thank you.

bchgirl 09-02-2008 12:44 PM
Seizures are a symptom...not the disease. Giving him anti seizure meds isn't correcting the illness. I seriously doubt it's related to the food. I used to feed RC but stopped because it made one of mine itchy and his eyes were really teary.

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YOSHILEE (Post 2216318)
Well we didn't know till i saw it in person when he was having one. I took him to the vet and had a blood test. The vet said everything same out perfectly normal. sugar level was good and his liver was perfectly fine and seem to be a very healthy puppy. we were feeding him Science diet before but he stopped eating it and we are now feeeding him royal canine. Do you think its the food? We been giving him medication every 12 hours. and the seizure stopped. but the vet said he should be real mellow and sleepy while on medications, but he is still super hyper and very active. Do you think this could be the cause? Please advise. thank you.
Something is the cause of the seizures and I am not sure why the vet would just decide to prescribe meds and not fully diagnose what the underlying cause is. I would find another vet.

Honestly there are lots of top quality dog foods available. I personally don't feed any of those. If you look at the health section there is a post it that is saved that gives you a link to high quality foods. You can check that and see what you can find locally.

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 12:51 PM
This is my first yorkie, and my first toy dog. So i'm not toooo familar with small puppies i had a doberman before which died at the age of 14. but i will try to do anything i can to keep him healthy. Does anyone have any suggestions for good dog food for for my puppy?

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 12:52 PM
I am going to take him to another vet to have him checked out. Well when i did other research on it some people said he can have seizure cuz he is very highly active. maybe a little too hyper. and tha can cause it. Is this true?

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YOSHILEE (Post 2216346)
This is my first yorkie, and my first toy dog. So i'm not toooo familar with small puppies i had a doberman before which died at the age of 14. but i will try to do anything i can to keep him healthy. Does anyone have any suggestions for good dog for for my puppy?
All dogs are essentially the same. Don't let the size fool you. Of course with a smaller breed you take a bit more caution that they don't get hurt but it's about the same. Honestly you need to have them find out what is causing the seizures. I am very suprised that the vet is just giving anti-seizure meds when they haven't diagnosed the cause.

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YOSHILEE (Post 2216351)
I am going to take him to another vet to have him checked out. Well when i did other research on it some people said he can have seizure cuz he is very highly active. maybe a little too hyper. and tha can cause it. Is this true?
Most yorkies are very active. Seizures are not caused by that. A pup can suffer hypoglycemia if they don't eat enough and burn out all of their reserves. The vet had to have some idea of what his problem is if he prescribed meds. What specifically did they say about the seizure?

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 12:55 PM
Well the vet told me that he is perfectly healthy and there is no way for them to find out. I will try another vet. Do you know if Banfield is any good? I'm worried to take him there, cuz most of them are inside of a petsmart.

bchgirl 09-02-2008 12:57 PM
Wellness, Nature's Variety, A taste of the wild are all good foods for your puppy.

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by YOSHILEE (Post 2216361)
Well the vet told me that he is perfectly healthy and there is no way for them to find out. I will try another vet. Do you know if Banfield is any good? I'm worried to take him there, cuz most of them are inside of a petsmart.
Ok you really need a new and improved vet. There are tests that should be run to rule out health issues that cause seizures.

What do you mean beniful dog food? I think that petsmart sells wellness...which is supposed to be a good food. Beniful is not one of the best you can get out there. Some good foods are Chicken Soup, Wellness, Merricks (which is what I feed). There are a few more but I can't remember the names off hand.

bchgirl 09-02-2008 01:01 PM
Seizures in a 6 month old puppy can indicate liver shunt. I suggest you take him somewhere...other than Banfield and have a bile acid test performed. Those results will tell you whether or not his liver is functioning properly. If not...additional testing needs to be done to determine if it's a shunt. If his liver isn't functioning properly...you are risking damage to his liver along with his body becoming toxic from a poor functioning liver.

kalina82 09-02-2008 01:57 PM
Some dogs can have seizures for no reason. That's when they are diagnosed with Epilepsy. There doesn't always need to be an underlying health issue. that being said, i would take the puppy somewhere else to get another blood panel run and a bile acid just to make sure. having epilepsy at such a young age is unusual. i'd want to be sure its not anything before putting him on anti-convulsants.

Bizzymammabee 09-02-2008 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2216513)
Some dogs can have seizures for no reason. That's when they are diagnosed with Epilepsy. There doesn't always need to be an underlying health issue. that being said, i would take the puppy somewhere else to get another blood panel run and a bile acid just to make sure. having epilepsy at such a young age is unusual. i'd want to be sure its not anything before putting him on anti-convulsants.
Not to be silly but wouldn't you consider epilepsy and underlying health issue. I do. There is a cause for everything that happens to them.

bchgirl 09-02-2008 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 2216513)
Some dogs can have seizures for no reason. That's when they are diagnosed with Epilepsy. There doesn't always need to be an underlying health issue. that being said, i would take the puppy somewhere else to get another blood panel run and a bile acid just to make sure. having epilepsy at such a young age is unusual. i'd want to be sure its not anything before putting him on anti-convulsants.
Only want to point out....epilepsy occurs in an older dog.

YorkieChick1 09-02-2008 02:40 PM
It might not even be a seizure. During this "episode" does your puppy pee and poop??? If not, it is probably not a seizure. Brooke had what I thought were seizures after she was diagnosed with GME, a brain disease. But when I described them to the vet he said that the stiffening of the body and the flickering of the eyes were like symptoms of a seizure but if they don't loose their bowels it isn't a seizure but a vestibular episode. This was a veterinary neurologist who told me this. You shouldn't have you pup on these meds if the vet doesn't even know what is causing the problem or if it is really seizures?? I'd get a second opinion by a vet recommended by friends. Good Luck!

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 02:47 PM
Yes he did poop but he did not pee during the seizure. After the seizure he went straight to his bowl of food and ate all of it

keokis mom 09-02-2008 03:03 PM
I would try switching him to primal or natures variety raw food- read up on the B.A.R.F. diet. I switched Keoki over to it and have seen amazing changes and everything i read about it led me to believe it was the healthiest option for my dog and after swiching through 6 brands of kibble he LOVES this!!!! I also think you should find a new vet to diagnose him- Keep us posted- I will pray for him!!!!

mscat 09-02-2008 03:10 PM
Anther thing that can cause seizures is a fall. He could have hit his head, and there is an injury. OR worse a tumor.
I believe this is why is is very important to get to the underlying condition of these seizures. Maybe the vet you see now could refer you to a specialist.
Besides changing his diet.

YOSHILEE 09-02-2008 04:51 PM
Thank everyone for your concern. Yoshi is doing pretty good now. he was having seizures everyday for a little while. but ever since he's been on his medication he has stop. For the past week he hasn't have one seizure. but i will definately want to take him off medications and take him to another vet. i'll keep everyone posted. On behalfs of yoshi i woul dlike to thank everyone on here for giving me advice and helping the cute little fellow. me and my girlfriend both love him to death and would do anything for this little guy.

Ladymom 09-02-2008 05:07 PM
My Lady is an epileptic so I know more than I would like to about the disease.

First of all, seizures in a dog under one year old are almost always a symptom of another disease, not a disease (epilepsy) itself. Just giving your puppy anti-seizure medication is not a solution. You must find out what is causing the seizures. Also, seizure medication (phenobarbital) damages the liver and if he has liver disease, this will only make things worse.

These are the causes of seizures in puppies with the most common being first:

Anomaly: hydrocephalus.

Inflammatory:
Infectious - Viral: canine distemper; parasitic; bacterial; fungal
Immune mediated

Metabolic:
Hepatic - portosystemic shunt; Autoimmune thyroiditis (early stage: TgAA
positive); Hypoglycemia; Electrolyte disorders

Toxic: Single or combination vaccines; Lead; Drug related; Other exposures

Trauma: Acute; Delayed

Degenerative: Storage disorders

Primary: Idiopathic Epilepsy ("idiopathic" = cause unknown or undetermined)

POSSIBLE CAUSES OF SEIZURES BY AGE

Did your puppy have a bile acids test? Simple bloodwork cannot diagnose liver disease. Since Yorkies are 36 times more likely to have a liver shunt than all other breeds combined and seizures are one of the symptoms, he needs a bile acids test.

kalina82 09-02-2008 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2216523)
Only want to point out....epilepsy occurs in an older dog.
not true. epilepsy can occur in any age

Inkygurl 02-04-2012 10:00 AM
I had a beautiful Siberian husky with epilepsy. His first seizure was so scary for us ....I never knew dogs could have epilepsy until him. Apparently, it's quite common. Some dogs live *normal* lives with medication. If your pup has epilepsy, I hope this is the case for you. If you have any questions or need to talk to anyone who's been there, let me know. Sending you best wishes!


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