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lacey has mvd and sometimes i wish it was liver shunt so we could have the surg. she acts more like a shunt dog:( but it is what it is, and i am glad i know i am doing everything i can to help her and that we found out early enough that her liver isnt damaged anymore then it has to be:) she is so much better then she was thanks to the liver shunt group. i also have an awsome vet who is learning with me about all this and helps me do research on how to handle her case. she had her liver biopsy and came through it with flying colors at 3lbs 2 ozs:) |
Glad she is doing better! I think it's hard to get them stabilized and on the right protocol for their particular situation. How old is she? Zeus is also a bigger dog. After surgery he only weighed 4 lbs. I just cried......weigh too skinny for him, looked awful....surgeon told me I'd never get any weight on him. He weighs about 7 1/2 lbs. now. That's a really good weight for him. He looks great and seems like he feels good at this weight. He actually had to go on a diet because he got up to 9 lbs.:) A diet is not easy with his dietary restrictions!!!!!! But extra weight isn't good for him either. Juliet |
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Also, like I mentioned before, you can increase their protein tolerance by feeding smaller more frequent meals. Less protein to handle at any one point in time will allow them to be able to handle more protein overall in the entire day. |
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The b-naturals website has a lot of good information. The only thing I want to mention is that they recommend chicken a lot on their site for liver compromised dogs. The truth is that animal proteins produce higher amounts of ammonia which are very hard on the liver. Symptomatic dogs should not really be given animal proteins like beef, chicken, turkey, etc because they cause the liver to work too hard unnecessarily. Egg whites are good for them though, along with dairy, soy, and vegetable proteins are easiest on them and produce less ammonia. |
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/members/ronlynn.html I believe Ronlynnn's baby had her surgery in Tennesee and she is doing wonderful. Just saw her again last weekend |
My Bubba just came home today after having his surgery in WPB with Dr. Robert Roy on Monday morning. When he was first put under, both the nurse and the surgeon said he was not responding to anesthesia like a shunt dog and the xray of his liver did not show any shrinkage. He gave me the option to do a needle biopsy through his body without opening him or opening and looking for a shunt, which might have required a portagram or contrast study of the liver if no shunt was found. I opted for the full exploratory surgery for a definitive answer. Sure enough, they found a SHUNT!! Thank God. He now has a constrictor ring and hopefully, he will live a long and healthy life. The vet said he was eating L/D for them, but he's not eating much for me at home. I've ordered the Royal Canin Hepatic but it's very hard to get. I'll check out Ronlynn's story. Thanks again, Pack Leader |
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So happy hear the little fella made it through surgery. You can homecook for him if he doesn't like the dog food :p |
I agree with homecooking I agree with the homecooking. We have had no signs except bladder stones and when we visited cornell, they said that blood flow through his liver was almost normal. My dog has multiple external shunts. We found them during bladder stone surgery. It may have started as one shunt and branched off or there could be a problem with the portal vein or many other reasons Dr. Center herself suggested. I wish I had bile acid tested him right when I got him but because I went to a show breeder, I didn't think I needed to. We homecook using a diet made for us by cornell: cottage cheese or egg, vegetables, and supplements. Except for bladder, he is doing great. No pickiness whatsoever. Quote:
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