Green beans are high oxalate and shouldn't be given.:(
I would with TLCs recipe and just use water with a mashed veggie, a flour (not sure what kind is good and an oil (canola should be fine?:confused: ).

they aren't going to have these anymore either. I had nothing to give them and they were driving me crazy. they look very forward to that first morning treat and also when i get home from work. when my husband gets home too they head straight for the treat jar. we were giving for 2 days- the sweet potato things i bought. But no more of those either for them. I want to make the treats for them but i also want to put a lot of really good things in there that they can have. on the link i found i just didn't know which one to pick. I guess i really don't need a specific recipe... i am def thinking about going with the wheat flour and from there ??? not too sure. i read about eggs included in the recipe, honey... but i want to make sure i make something good they can actually eat. lately i have been giving them things that they LOVE but then find out they cannot have.

Hey if anything its distracting my mind from worrying so much. :-) i still haven't given the Ursodiol yet. I am going to tonight though. around 9 pm is when i will give her that. Just scared that's all. :-) i read that somewhere 37% it causes diarrhea. and i hope that she does ok with it. samie never has had diarhea- not even once. so maybe she will do ok.

ok- no more green beans now then. i thought they were med oxalate? any ideas on what kind of mashed veggies? i am going back to the b-naturals link to read some more.

the problem i am having with the b-natural link is it has a WEALTH of info on there and i keep getting side tracked. But yes i have to spend some time on there definitely.

The girls need a bath today and a nails and ear trim. and i still need to go to the grocery store. I am limited on time today but i have got to find something to use for treats. I just tried to give them a piece of wet food for now out of the fridge and it worked. The wellness dry food that i wet (doesn't seem to keep them full for a long time) i fed them this am at 6am and they are laying in front of their water bowl now. next feeding isn't for 6 hours. so when i give them a treat they leave the water bowl and lay down in the living room with me.

When i go to feed them it's as if they hadn't eaten for days. they have never done this before until i switched foods. and they eat so fast also. 1 min or less and they are both done eating.

Honestly, you would be surprised at how little you need to add.

Flour (like 1 cup)
Water (maybe 1/4 cup or less)
Oil (and really only like 1 tablespoon)
And something else....(pureed celery and zucchini or squash)
and then bake

You really don't have to go too nuts with ingredients and flavoring ;)

this is what i found for "low oxalate" - i will also eliminate the meat/eggs so that both dogs can have the treats i make.

VEGETABLES:
Avocado
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Mushrooms
Onions
Peas (fresh or frozen)
Potatoes
Radishes

MEAT and MEAT SUBSTITUTES:
Beef, lamb, or pork
Cheese
Eggs
Fish and shellfish
Poultry

STARCHES:
Bread made without bran, wheat germ, or whole grains
Cereals
Macaroni
Noodles
Rice
Spaghetti (plain)


FATS and OILS:
Bacon
Butter
Margarine
Mayonnaise
Salad dressing
Vegetable oils

ok- i will try it! thanks so much.
I will let you know how they turn out and what i used.

oh can i use a little brown gravy mix in there? or peanut butter?

what about oat meal?

One site I found says green beans are high oxalate, so who knows.

If the brown gravy has salt or preservatives I wouldn't use it.

Here's my theory...I try to stay as grain free as possible, but that's just how I feel. I am sure you can add some rolled oats (not instant oatmeal) if you would like. Also, maybe mash up a bunch of peas to add in there. The PB might be ok, not sure though, maybe just add 1 teaspoon.

I try to use minimal amounts of ingredients. KIS (Keep it Simple :p )

Honestly, a bunch of mashed up peas just might do the trick for the taste(with flour, water and a tiny bit of oil) ;)

Oatmeal is moderate to high high oxalate along with wheat flour. It gets a little bit confusing because different sites have then in different categories...

White rice is considered moderate or sometimes low. It isn't the best choice for the liver but a little bit probably wouldn't hurt. Maybe try that?

ok- this is what i am going to try...
 

flour (not sure if white flour will be fine) so i am still debating what type of flour to use since wheat won't work)

I will mix:
flour
water
veg oil
mashed potatoes
pureed apples

I am going to boil the potato and apple, then mash it and add to the flour and oil & water mixture.

any flour ideas?

ok- this is what i am going to try...
 

maybe i will add a little white rice

If you think white flour will be ok- then i don't even have to leave the house. I have peas, potatoe and apple and oil here at the house) i was going to get something other than white flour.

i decided no white rice

is brown rice flour ok. I don't know if i will be able to find this at the grocery store if so? also i think i want to get safflower oil too. i decided to pick up some unsweetened apple sauce to save time. :-)

i hope i get this right....

If you are starting with just 1 cup of flour, you don't need to add too much of anything other, b/c it's gonna be too wet.

1 cup of flour
1 tablespoon of oil
1 tablespoon of mashed potato
1 tablespoon of apple sauce

(water is going to be ify here, just do that last as you might only need a tiny tiny bit or none at all)

Again, you'll have to play around with the ingredients and measurements.

I have mead so many 'blah and burnt treats' but ya know what, mine still eat them and want more - go figure :D

ok- just got bk from the store. I got unbleached white flour AND also rye flour. I read that rye bread is low oxalate so maybe rye flour would be ok. it says for ingredients on the box: 100% whole grain rye flour

but i wont use it if someone says its not a good idea. I got the unbleached white bc it's supposed to be better than all purpose flour

I also got the salflower oil and unsweetened applesauce.

I couldn't remember where blueberries and cranberries fell on the list but i just checked and they are "moderate" so maybe i should not use those at all. or if maybe a JUST tad bit wouldn't hurt? what do you think?

Picked up a cute little bone cookie cutter too!
You would think i am starting a dog cookie business with the amount of research and thought i have put into this.

the cranberries i got are the ocean spray canned not dried- i read that dried cranberries are on the moderate list

i am needing to find out if rye flour i guess is on the low oxalate list somewhere..

:-)))))

I say go easy on your first couple batches. Go simple, not overboard untill you more results on them ok.

ok- what do you think about using the rye flour? i have everything ready to go but I dont want to use the rye flour if you say not to.

also how long does a batch keep for? since there are not any chemicals and preservatives i them i wasn't sure.

veg oil is on the low oxalate list but i didn't see the sallflower oil listed. i think i will stick with the veg oil on this batch until i know for sure.

I don't really have a clue as to the rye flour :confused:

As far as how long they should last, well, using 1 cup of flour to start isn't going to yeild too many treats, so that's good and you are not using anything that needs to be kept refrigerated so you don'y have to worry about them going ransid. They will be fine and they won't last too long, b/c they will eat them :D

they are baking now in the oven. i used 1/2 rye flour and the unbleached white flour. the white flour was on the moderate list i believe. i did a searc for low oxalate bread and it brought up a recipe for rye bread- and the ingredients were to use rye flour. hmmm... you know me...a little nervous :-)

This is what i found on line...
Low Oxalate Recipe: Swedish Rye Cookies


I was at Win-Co Foods today buying items for my new Low-Oxalate diet. As I was getting dark rye flour in the bulk section, I noticed a free recipe. It was for Swedish Rye Cookies. As chocolate and cocoa are high oxalate food items I've been wondering what shall fill my sweet tooth. I have to be honest, I've had better cookies. But these had a nice shortbread texture and were slightly sweet. Great for an afternoon snack with a cup of coffee!

Swedish Rye Cookies, Recipe from Win-Co Foods:
*CameraDawktor has changed flour ingredients to make it low oxalate*

Ingredients:
1/2 c. butter, softened
1/4 c. white sugar
3/4 c. rye flour
3/4 c. white rice flour
1/8 tsp. baking powder
1/4 tsp. salt

* this was how i got the idea on the rye flour. let me just add that i did not use this recipe to make the dog cookies. I only used the rye flour :-)

You are too cute :p

I am quite sure your little girls are going to love them :D

Yes- i bet they do.
They are going to love you too...for helping their mama come up with a recipe to make them !!

:-)

Always glad to help. I just don't like adding a whole bunch of crap, so I cut everything out and went to the basics, and it works ;)

Welllll...i finished them and as they were cooling i broke off a tiny little piece and gave it to the girls. I always start with a super small piece of something new and as I was typing the last note I heard Sadie next to me doing something and when i looked she had puked it up? I don't know why? :-(

maybe tomorrow i will try a batch with only the white flour.

my little angel had the same problem the specialist did BAT and post levels were high..she wanted to do US and if that was normal, biopsy and other dye studies. I had the US done but refused the biopsy, he was almost 11 yrs old and had heart problems as well as the collapsed trachea and I just couldn't put him thru all that not knowing if he would even survive it.. the US was normal so we put him on lactulose and denosyl. None of it helped, so I am wondering if that was even the problem. what kind of symptoms is she having. I am not trying to sound discouraging, just sharing and basically trying to find out what happened with my baby..

Her symptoms?? she is running around like a crazy girl. she is a pistol! SHe is playful, has a big appetite and would kiss you all day long if you would let her.

she has NO syptoms of any kind.

THe only reason she had bat done was bc she fainted one morning (we later found out if was bc of a fight over their food the second day i started wetting it) so vet wanted to run more blood tests. Her numbers went up after a month on the Denamarin but i also had changed a few things with her diet (incently not knowing that i was supposed to do exactly what we were doing the month before) meaning feed the same way. well i added 3 more things to her diet and pretty much increased a lot of protein. started giving her gobs of wellness canned food on top of her reg food and wellness wellbites for snacks-also adding a dry snack (nat balance duck and potato dry treats)

The biopsy she wanted to do though she said she would be lightly sedated for only 5 min and they would go in with a small needle and grab a tiny bit of tissue. she would not be completely under. the sedation only to keep her still. 781.00 for that test and 98.00 for a coulaggutaion test that would have to be done 48 hrs before the biopsy. we just got done spending over 5200.00 the past 6 mos on other tests with my other yorkie. so we do not have it. the vet gets so test happy and then 1000 dollars later then we go to see a specialist. My other dog has Gloumelular disease -but it took the specialist to determine that.

with Samie- instead of rush into the biopsy ---we decided to change her diet and lower protein and also start her on the Ursodiol as well to see if anything changes. if not- we are going to the specialist then. for now she is keeping her paws crossed. and if she needs the biopsy then i guess we have no choice. for now it is just on hold.

shelby ran around like a puppy too until he would start having these "tremors" that I am still not sure were not seizures of some sort but that is why the specialist thought he may have LS but she never believed he was having tremors either (she decided he was just nervous) however 2 ER docs and his reg vet saw what I was talking about.. I wish I had know about this sight a few months ago, I might have saved him some suffering or maybe his precious life.