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stedmansmommy 05-15-2007 05:53 PM

I don't think that this should be banned :thumbdown

AMD 05-18-2007 11:34 AM

I don't think it should become banned. If you don't like docked tails, you don't have to have them docked, but I think it should be a choice, not a law.

chattiesmom 05-28-2007 09:40 AM

Personal Choice
 
I think it should be a personal choice however if AKC would acknowledge natural tails in Yorkies then fewer people would dock.

SweetCuteness 05-28-2007 09:53 AM

Just like many other laws that I disagree with, I think docking should be a choice. Plus, a law isn't going to stop a breeder from doing it if they already do it themselves. Who is really going to police it? Is someone going to go knocking on every breeder's door and ask for proof that it was done by a vet before the pup's eyes opened? It just seems pretty extreme to me.

Baby Blessing 05-28-2007 12:17 PM

We have leash laws here in the United States, which is not in force and they could never be, there is absolutely no way they can be completely enforced.

Sorry that this is going to be lengthy but things that Jack and I feel need to be said. It is our opinion and belief on the following.

I am totally against any law that tells us tails must not be docked. I also am against any law that tells us we have to spay/neuter our pet.

This mandatory spay/neuter law passed in our Los Angeles County here in Calif. and is going State wide, we was made to have Baby Blessing spayed this past week, not by our choice but by BIG BROTHER. I am totally against government contolling these decisions, this is not FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Better believe they can inforce the spay/neuter law when you first apply for a dog license they got your name, address and everything. When time to renew the license each year, they insist on the spay/neuter certificate and mandatory micro chip certificate. To everyone that is not keeping up their dogs shots they are doing a disservice to their pet. I hear so many people say that they will not take their dog for the shots because this way it is not known to the county or the State,that they have a dog, this is sad cause many pets are being deprived of the neccessary things needed from a responsable pet owner, it is all because of this stupid dumb law now passed on mandatory spay/neuter. We didn't mind having ours micro chipped, in the event of a disaster, for us we felt it is important to do so.

We are seeing many changes taking place here in the United States Government getting involved in areas it has no business doing so, all I can say to the younger generation is get involved, please know what is going on and speak up and voice your opinion. If not heard, get petitions and get things on the ballot to vote on let our American Freedom of Choices continue, if not done then what????????? this is just one little ole ladies opinon and my husbands too.
Patti and Jack

chattiesmom 05-28-2007 12:42 PM

Thank you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Blessing (Post 1147286)
We have leash laws here in the United States, which is not in force and they could never be, there is absolutely no way they can be completely enforced.

Sorry that this is going to be lengthy but things that Jack and I feel need to be said. It is our opinion and belief on the following.

I am totally against any law that tells us tails must not be docked. I also am against any law that tells us we have to spay/neuter our pet.

This mandatory spay/neuter law passed in our Los Angeles County here in Calif. and is going State wide, we was made to have Baby Blessing spayed this past week, not by our choice but by BIG BROTHER. I am totally against government contolling these decisions, this is not FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Better believe they can inforce the spay/neuter law when you first apply for a dog license they got your name, address and everything. When time to renew the license each year, they insist on the spay/neuter certificate and mandatory micro chip certificate. To everyone that is not keeping up their dogs shots they are doing a disservice to their pet. I hear so many people say that they will not take their dog for the shots because this way it is not known to the county or the State,that they have a dog, this is sad cause many pets are being deprived of the neccessary things needed from a responsable pet owner, it is all because of this stupid dumb law now passed on mandatory spay/neuter. We didn't mind having ours micro chipped, in the event of a disaster, for us we felt it is important to do so.

We are seeing many changes taking place here in the United States Government getting involved in areas it has no business doing so, all I can say to the younger generation is get involved, please know what is going on and speak up and voice your opinion. If not heard, get petitions and get things on the ballot to vote on let our American Freedom of Choices continue, if not done then what????????? this is just one little ole ladies opinon and my husbands too.
Patti and Jack

Thank you for this post. I agree 100% with you! GREAT POST!!!!

Simmy84 05-28-2007 01:02 PM

In Germany we have it banned since 1998 and I know many yorkie breeders, most of them have no problems with broken tails. You normally only get a problem if the tail is thin. I have one yorkie with docked tail, she is 9 years old, all my other have long tails and I think they can express themthelves much better than the one with the short tail. I made the experience that if we meet an aggressive dog it always attacked my dog with docked tail, I think that is very strange.
What I think is silly is the fact that sometimes dogs with undocked tail are not able to win titles in countries where tails are not docked.

kathy785 05-28-2007 07:51 PM

I do not have the German yorkies or the Biewers' tails dock (against Biewer standard). I love the look of the plume of hair over their backs. They definitely give the dogs more of a personality. Since the yorkies are not a working dog, what incidence of tail breakage is there? I did import one that the tip had been broken, but the vet thought it happened at birth.

scrapindee 05-28-2007 08:51 PM

I don't have the Biewers' tails docked either. The standard says the tail is not docked. And I too love seeing the tail plumed.

Dayzee my teapot yorkie--tail was docked--we don't love her any less--but I would if given a choice in the future, not dock.

puppylove17 06-04-2007 04:59 AM

Optional
 
I think it should be optional and if AKC would allow the tail not to be docked per their standards I believe the undocked tail would become very popular. I know it's actually optional already as no one is forced to dock other then to meet the standard but as long as a docked tail is the standard we won't see many undocked ones. :aimeeyork :animal-pa

BiewerBaby 06-05-2007 12:03 PM

Hi ,

I have to say that i love when the tails are docked ...... we have one Yorkshirefemale that we imported from Yvonne ( du gue de l' adoure ) from France . She is born and breed in Ungarn ( line du gue de l'adour and Millmoor ) and she has her tail docked . I LOVE HER !!!
She is so funny and i love it when she run and shake her tail ... !

I wish we could dock the tails in Germany !!!

Many greetings
Michael

pea496 06-05-2007 12:17 PM

I don't think the government should be involved in our dogs' lives. Some things have to be left to the breeder and owner.

Nikki+2 06-08-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pea496 (Post 1161581)
I don't think the government should be involved in our dogs' lives. Some things have to be left to the breeder and owner.

I totally agree! I know some people think it is cruel and is an animal cruelty issue- I do not. I have read many accounts of tail docking by experienced breeders and it just isn't animal cruelty IMO. So, believing that... why would it be any of the governments business? God, I hope our lawmakers have more important things going on besides worrying about my dogs tail.

Kathryn_V 06-18-2007 09:06 AM

The tail injury stats aside... The gov really should be spending its time on issues far more important than tail docking....

Thats not to say that our dogs aren't important, they are. But we have a fabulous org, the AKC, that has set standards to which we should adhear. If breeders hold themselvs to those standards, we'll be just fine... They have set standards on docking for dogs that need it and specified intact tails for those who don't.

For me... thats enough... Now, let the Gov. vote in rules for large kennels so that mills are not established... I'm all for that!

JCarlson2004 06-18-2007 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathryn_V (Post 1182766)
The tail injury stats aside... The gov really should be spending its time on issues far more important than tail docking....

Thats not to say that our dogs aren't important, they are. But we have a fabulous org, the AKC, that has set standards to which we should adhear. If breeders hold themselvs to those standards, we'll be just fine... They have set standards on docking for dogs that need it and specified intact tails for those who don't.

For me... thats enough... Now, let the Gov. vote in rules for large kennels so that mills are not established... I'm all for that!

lolol ditto! :thumbup:

On a personal note, I LOVE the look of a docked tail and totally prefer it to an undocked tail. I honestly just don't like the look of a Yorkie with an undocked tail (I hope I don't offend anyone who has a Yorkie with an undocked tail, it's just my preference). My little Tia wiggles her whole booty out of excitment when I come home and both hubby and I love it!! She's adorable and I wouldn't change a thing about her. :p


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