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lynzy420 02-15-2012 09:34 AM

I wasn't going to touch this topic because of 2 personal experiences with beautiful, wonderful "Pitts" who suddenly, "went bad." My Gus was a beautiful dog, and I couldn't and still don't love him any less today then I did then. I got him when he was about 12 weeks old, literally was thrown down a berm from the thruway...he was my little boys best friend and a clutsy big dog who thought he was a lap dog! Not a bad bone in his body until one day and try as I might the only thing I can come up with is it had to be his "breeding"...anyways, I don't want to start a firestorm, or a pro or anti anything...my family loved that dog he was very special for 5 1/2 years.

What I will say is that banning of any breed is a "genocide" of a living thing. That is unacceptable, I do believe that ownership of animals (never mind my thoughts on children) needs to be more regulated with the best interest of all involved. I am not saying I know how or the answer to how this can be done, but it does need to be done. But banning of a breed? this is crazy and should not be tolerated by any pet owner or otherwise.

I speak from personal experience and despite my experience I stand by what I say...this is wrong, wrong, wrong.....

(no human was injured in my case)

lynzy420 02-15-2012 09:44 AM

Also,
 
I got caught up in my deja vu and forgot what I wanted to say!

About 15 years ago, 3 of my neighbors who had BIG dogs, 1 a 12 year old German Shepherd, 1 Black, Shepherd mix and 1 which was a large MUTT -all were told by their Insurance Companies they had to get rid of their dogs (guess who ended up with them???) They all had the same Insurance Company, I was appalled I work for local gov't so I did what I could, drove myself crazy, but to no avail. At the time we had an addition and a yard the size of a football field, so we took them in! It was a hoot, they were all older and we only had them a few years but we loved them just the same.

I could never understand how the owners could just "let it go" but they were good people and I remember how they cried but did what they had to do...but lest I forget....they were all poised to take them to the local pound when my hubby stepped in...

It just amazes me that these companies get away with this.

Wylie's Mom 02-16-2012 04:40 PM

I'm always w/ Brit on this one.

I'm totally against BSL (breed specific legislation). It's the wrong answer, in so many ways.

I love pitties, and have met some super sweet ones. Two years ago, we rescued a lost pittie female in our neighborhood - she was just a DOLL. She thought she was a lap dog...just a big pile of love-goo. :love:

lynzy420 02-16-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3828012)
I'm always w/ Brit on this one.

I'm totally against BSL (breed specific legislation). It's the wrong answer, in so many ways.

I love pitties, and have met some super sweet ones. Two years ago, we rescued a lost pittie female in our neighborhood - she was just a DOLL. She thought she was a lap dog...just a big pile of love-goo. :love:

Absolutely, this.

BSL - In this day and age I can't fathom that people still feel this thought process is ok....well lets see, next it will be Black Cats, cuz we all know how much trouble they can be.

BabyGirl Rosie 02-16-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 3826758)
I got caught up in my deja vu and forgot what I wanted to say!

About 15 years ago, 3 of my neighbors who had BIG dogs, 1 a 12 year old German Shepherd, 1 Black, Shepherd mix and 1 which was a large MUTT -all were told by their Insurance Companies they had to get rid of their dogs (guess who ended up with them???) They all had the same Insurance Company, I was appalled I work for local gov't so I did what I could, drove myself crazy, but to no avail. At the time we had an addition and a yard the size of a football field, so we took them in! It was a hoot, they were all older and we only had them a few years but we loved them just the same.

I could never understand how the owners could just "let it go" but they were good people and I remember how they cried but did what they had to do...but lest I forget....they were all poised to take them to the local pound when my hubby stepped in...

It just amazes me that these companies get away with this.

Haha Sorry but that is too funny! Sounds like someone else I know. :rolleyes: I think sometimes it is just too much that the big corporations can do things such as cancelling policies. The sad thing is the company is a HUGE insurance company. That I no longer use. :D

jrsygal37 02-18-2012 12:30 PM

My feelings about the Pitbulls are that they get a bad rap for the behavior of the owners rather then the breed itself. The size, look and it's strongness unfortunately attracts a bad crowd. They are ending up in the hands of people that are training them for the purpose of which the breed was not intended. Insurance is the least of the issues. States are banning the ownership of these dogs, and many shelters have a policy of immediate euthanization / no adoption policy.

I do feel there is an answer to the problem. I feel that if Pitbulls were treated like guns then it would end a lot of the issues. I feel if someone wants to own a Pit then they should have to be fingerprinted, and have a background check run just as if they were purchasing a gun. IF THEY ARE A CONVICTED FELLON then they should be banned from owning the breed. I also feel that the dog should have to be spay or neutered, carry insurance, and be registered just as a hand gun would. I do not believe the should abolish the breed, but I do believe that at least for now breeding Pits should be against the law. My belief is based on the shelters being over populated, where you are finding probably 90 percent or more being Pitbulls occupying the shelters or Pit mixes.

My personal belief is that they are great dogs, and are less likely to bite then a small breed, but unfortuantely when they do bite the outcome is far worse then when one of our dogs bite.

Elaine

lillymae 02-18-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3829350)
My feelings about the Pitbulls are that they get a bad rap for the behavior of the owners rather then the breed itself. The size, look and it's strongness unfortunately attracts a bad crowd. They are ending up in the hands of people that are training them for the purpose of which the breed was not intended. Insurance is the least of the issues. States are banning the ownership of these dogs, and many shelters have a policy of immediate euthanization / no adoption policy.

I do feel there is an answer to the problem. I feel that if Pitbulls were treated like guns then it would end a lot of the issues. I feel if someone wants to own a Pit then they should have to be fingerprinted, and have a background check run just as if they were purchasing a gun. IF THEY ARE A CONVICTED FELLON then they should be banned from owning the breed. I also feel that the dog should have to be spay or neutered, carry insurance, and be registered just as a hand gun would. I do not believe the should abolish the breed, but I do believe that at least for now breeding Pits should be against the law. My belief is based on the shelters being over populated, where you are finding probably 90 percent or more being Pitbulls occupying the shelters or Pit mixes.

My personal belief is that they are great dogs, and are less likely to bite then a small breed, but unfortuantely when they do bite the outcome is far worse then when one of our dogs bite.

Elaine

Great Post !:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

BabyGirl Rosie 02-18-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsygal37 (Post 3829350)
My feelings about the Pitbulls are that they get a bad rap for the behavior of the owners rather then the breed itself. The size, look and it's strongness unfortunately attracts a bad crowd. They are ending up in the hands of people that are training them for the purpose of which the breed was not intended. Insurance is the least of the issues. States are banning the ownership of these dogs, and many shelters have a policy of immediate euthanization / no adoption policy.

I do feel there is an answer to the problem. I feel that if Pitbulls were treated like guns then it would end a lot of the issues. I feel if someone wants to own a Pit then they should have to be fingerprinted, and have a background check run just as if they were purchasing a gun. IF THEY ARE A CONVICTED FELLON then they should be banned from owning the breed. I also feel that the dog should have to be spay or neutered, carry insurance, and be registered just as a hand gun would. I do not believe the should abolish the breed, but I do believe that at least for now breeding Pits should be against the law. My belief is based on the shelters being over populated, where you are finding probably 90 percent or more being Pitbulls occupying the shelters or Pit mixes.

My personal belief is that they are great dogs, and are less likely to bite then a small breed, but unfortuantely when they do bite the outcome is far worse then when one of our dogs bite.

Elaine

Very very well put! :thumbup::thumbup:

GypsyVille 02-24-2012 08:03 PM

I haven't read through all the replies yet but please have your friends call State Farm Insurance. State Farm insures all dogs that don't have a bite history reguardless of breed - as it should be.

Years ago I too recieved the letter in the mail that said we had to get rid of the Rottweilers or lose our homeowners insurance. I got out the phone book after reading online and called State Farm. State Farm had no problem with our dogs. They got all our business from that day forward and actually we have saved a ton of money with them compared to our previous company.

BabyGirl Rosie 02-24-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyVille (Post 3834752)
I haven't read through all the replies yet but please have your friends call State Farm Insurance. State Farm insures all dogs that don't have a bite history reguardless of breed - as it should be.

Years ago I too recieved the letter in the mail that said we had to get rid of the Rottweilers or lose our homeowners insurance. I got out the phone book after reading online and called State Farm. State Farm had no problem with our dogs. They got all our business from that day forward and actually we have saved a ton of money with them compared to our previous company.

State Farm is the one who dropped them. :( I wasn't going to say that but that is who it is.

GypsyVille 02-24-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3834758)
State Farm is the one who dropped them. :( I wasn't going to say that but that is who it is.

Really? WOW!! They are on the list for Rottweilers owners to contact and I have a ton of friends that use State Farm for that reason.

Here is a list that we pass around on the Rottweiler forum. maybe one of the other companies could help your friend.

INSURANCE

BabyGirl Rosie 02-24-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyVille (Post 3834765)
Really? WOW!! They are on the list for Rottweilers owners to contact and I have a ton of friends that use State Farm for that reason.

Here is a list that we pass around on the Rottweiler forum. maybe one of the other companies could help your friend.

INSURANCE

Thank you! Maybe each agent is different? I don't know. But I appreciate the help. :)

GypsyVille 02-24-2012 08:21 PM

And Maybe have your friend call the corporate Office. Read this response on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...id=80593611889

BabyGirl Rosie 02-24-2012 08:24 PM

Hmmmm, that is interesting. Now I am thinking agent. I will give her that information. Thank you so much!

GypsyVille 02-24-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3834768)
Thank you! Maybe each agent is different? I don't know. But I appreciate the help. :)

My husband was just saying to tell you to check with another agent. He has a buddy at work that just got a pitbull puppy and he lost his insurance. My Hubby told his friend to call state farm and I guess the agent he called told him no. My hubby called our agent and they were fine with it. So call around and check with different agents.


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