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BubblPopElectrc 10-18-2007 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertChildAZ (Post 1444342)
By the way, I care deeply about my car especially since I depend on it to get me back and forth to work and it cost me A buttload of money, but I never read a word of the contract (only looked at the final price) when I signed the purchase agreement.
It's funny you mention that. I'm sure we are all guilty of that. I've done that on a lot of things... job applications, apartment leases, probably even most of my pets, etc. :eek:

puppylove17 10-18-2007 09:47 PM
This was just so all wrong on so many levels. First, I don't think Ellen meant any harm at all to anyone. She made a mistake and she has paid dearly for it. To start with, when the rescue called to (called, not paid a visit) to check on Iggy, she told the truth. She could have just said, Iggy is fine and been done with it. She could have even said that Iggy is visiting my hairdresser and family for a while because he loves their children. Then, no problem but no - she told the truth because she thought she had done a good thing for all concerned. And I believe she did. It went sour when the rescue lady got all bent out of shape because a rule had been broken or a clause in a contract. Common sense went out the window. Would the rescue have come unglued so readily had Ellen not been a celebrity? Would this have escalated to the level it has. IMHO she wanted to show Ellen that just because she is a celebrity she "get by with anything" because she (rescue lady) was still the boss no matter what was actually in the best interest of the dog or othr

puppylove17 10-18-2007 09:56 PM
Hmmmmmm must be a limit on words or something As I was saying it didnt matter at the time what was in the best interests of the dog or other people involved as long as she could prove to Ellen that it was she (rescue lady) that was calling the shots. What an ego maniac!!!!
I agree with everyone also about how hard it can be to rescue an animal. So many that could have had perfectly good homes already still await rescue because the rules are too strict.
Poor Iggy - this was so unfair to him and to those pre-teen girls.
But now we all know who's the boss!!
Good grief! God save us from the ego trips those in power have to take.
:aimeeyork :animal-pa

PS Guess even though this was a long post it could have been made in one. I thought it was limited but it was a key sticking on my computer. Sorry bout that. :o)

BabyFidgette 10-19-2007 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc (Post 1444328)
LOS ANGELES, Calif. (October 18, 2007) — As the controversy over Ellen’s dog adoption gone awry continues, Access Hollywood has learned that Mutts & Moms may have other business issues to contend with that could affect their position in the Iggy dispute.

According to the California Secretary of State’s Web site, the Mutts & Moms corporation has been suspended since December 2006 when they failed to file a “statement of information.”

Access Hollywood has verified the corporation is still suspended as of today.

The “statement of information” is a document that lists who their officers are. However, as soon as the form is submitted, the agency can revive their corporation.

As a result of the suspension, enforcing the contract with Ellen and Portia may be impossible for the agency, as both the original adoption of Iggy and the date the agency reclaimed possession of the pet happened after the suspension began.

Access Hollywood has placed a call to Mutts & Moms, as well as their attorney, for comment. No response was received at the time of publication.

Access has also learned that Ellen cancelled her show tapings scheduled for Thursday. One audience hopeful told Access that Ellen’s staff explained to people that she is too exhausted and taking time off.

Ellen had two tapings scheduled today. Keith Urban was the guest on one. Jerry Seinfeld who is on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” tonight was supposed to pop over to Ellen after. And John Edwards’ wife, Elizabeth, was a guest on another.

Access learned from a security guard that Keith Urban is still going to perform in front of Ellen’s audience. Those audience members who were turned away for the taping were offered alternative dates to come back.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah7128.shtml

This would be awesome if it allows the family to get the dog back! I can understand why they are so upset.. that had the dog for quite a bit.

It's sad how quickly the agency out. It shows you how concerned they were about the whole issue.
Great news! No wonder Marina is "so" upset about it getting to the media. She knew she messed up!

crystalsmom 10-19-2007 09:51 AM
I will tell you what I would do in her case.....of course I'll probably never get a rescue after saying this. I would read the contract (not that much to read from a rescue and I'm sure Ellen did too)then if I had a dog for a month and it was somewhat my fault that I could not get it to work in well with the rest of the family and I had to give it up, I would not want it to go back to the rescue to sit behind bars and maybe be put down. It would not take me a minute to decide to give my pup to a loving family I knew to take it in at that point. Of course I would think they will never know the difference but it could happen and this is what happened here I'm sure.

The main job of rescue is to make sure that a dog that has already been brought to rescue does not come back again, it is way too hard on the dog. Like I said before restrictions are way too strict but I see ours does it on a case to case basis which makes sense since every dog is different as well as every family. People also take on rescue animals to sell at a profit and this is another reason these rules are in place but I would not have cared a bit. I would have to suffer some of the consequences but this woman is seeing money signs and once all the law suits and counter law-suits are over we probably will know no more about the truth than we do now. I now found a link saying 14 was a part of the contract:confused:

DesertChildAZ 10-19-2007 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1446203)
I will tell you what I would do in her case.....of course I'll probably never get a rescue after saying this. I would read the contract (not that much to read from a rescue and I'm sure Ellen did too)then if I had a dog for a month and it was somewhat my fault that I could not get it to work in well with the rest of the family and I had to give it up, I would not want it to go back to the rescue to sit behind bars and maybe be put down. It would not take me a minute to decide to give my pup to a loving family I knew to take it in at that point. Of course I would think they will never know the difference but it could happen and this is what happened here I'm sure.

The main job of rescue is to make sure that a dog that has already been brought to rescue does not come back again, it is way too hard on the dog. Like I said before restrictions are way too strict but I see ours does it on a case to case basis which makes sense since every dog is different as well as every family. People also take on rescue animals to sell at a profit and this is another reason these rules are in place but I would not have cared a bit. I would have to suffer some of the consequences but this woman is seeing money signs and once all the law suits and counter law-suits are over we probably will know no more about the truth than we do now. I now found a link saying 14 was a part of the contract:confused:
Lawsuit or no lawsuit, if Iggy has been placed in another home and gets acclimated to that home, the damage is done and it would defeat the point to return him to Ruby since, by then, he will already be acclimated to another home. This is why I think this rescue woman is so terrible. She knows this...this is why she claims to have placed him with another home...because SHE knows that if the hairdresser's family loves Iggy, it would break their heart to have him get used to another home and to have ANOTHER family fall in love with him and then do to them what they had done to them...by having Iggy taken away if Ellen were to win the lawsuit.

MyFairLacy 10-19-2007 11:19 AM
How could anyone actually adopt that dog after all of this? I couldn't in good conscious adopt Iggy knowing what that rescue group did to that family..

MeganS 10-19-2007 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1446451)
How could anyone actually adopt that dog after all of this? I couldn't in good conscious adopt Iggy knowing what that rescue group did to that family..
I couldn't either.

But I'd bet money some psycho-crazy Ellen fan somewhere thought "AH! This is the same dog Ellen had! Wouldn't it be cool if I got it?" and then managed to pass the inspection. :roll:

Then again, it could have gone to someone who didn't really care where it came from or all the drama, and just wanted a dog to love.

yorkiegirl83 10-19-2007 12:38 PM
Maybe the family that got the dog were another applicant for Iggy that was approved as well..

crystalsmom 10-19-2007 01:50 PM
There is so much we don't know. One scenario keeps running through my head and it may not be right but Ellen gets the larger dog, the woman comes out and picks up the larger dog because it wasn't working and gives her the smaller pup and thinks to herself will she have the nerve to call me again if this doesn't work out. I bet she might give it or sell it to someone.......so I better keep an eye on this one cause then I could sue the pants off her. And now she can add to that lost business etc and all the threats she says she is getting. Poor Ellen is in for a big fight I'm afraid and if it were me doing this she probably would never check.

Monday 10-19-2007 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1446451)
How could anyone actually adopt that dog after all of this? I couldn't in good conscious adopt Iggy knowing what that rescue group did to that family..

but if you did not think Ruby would get Iggy back,
would you want him to go back to the rescue group???
with an "unknown" future ....
I hope the new family does not get into the public spotlight ....

Janie616 10-19-2007 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Monday (Post 1447748)
but if you did not think Ruby would get Iggy back,
would you want him to go back to the rescue group???
with an "unknown" future ....
I hope the new family does not get into the public spotlight ....
good point .... :thumbup:


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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1446816)
There is so much we don't know. One scenario keeps running through my head and it may not be right but Ellen gets the larger dog, the woman comes out and picks up the larger dog because it wasn't working and gives her the smaller pup and thinks to herself will she have the nerve to call me again if this doesn't work out. I bet she might give it or sell it to someone.......so I better keep an eye on this one cause then I could sue the pants off her. And now she can add to that lost business etc and all the threats she says she is getting. Poor Ellen is in for a big fight I'm afraid and if it were me doing this she probably would never check.
what larger dog are you referring to?: Did I miss something ..:icon5:

crystalsmom 10-20-2007 05:30 AM
She slipped this in close to the end.

http://images.eonline.com/static/aud...llen101707.mp3

it takes about 3 or 4 minutes to download so don't think you are not getting it.

mistyinca 10-20-2007 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 1446627)
I couldn't either.

But I'd bet money some psycho-crazy Ellen fan somewhere thought "AH! This is the same dog Ellen had! Wouldn't it be cool if I got it?" and then managed to pass the inspection. :roll:

Then again, it could have gone to someone who didn't really care where it came from or all the drama, and just wanted a dog to love.
This is also precisely the point why the rescue should NOT have adopted Iggy back out. I would think that, if they truly cared about where their rescues are placed, they'd hold onto Iggy in the meantime to keep him from falling into a crazed fan's hands.

crystalsmom 10-21-2007 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 1446627)



Then again, it could have gone to someone who didn't really care where it came from or all the drama, and just wanted a dog to love.
Megan, I hope this is the case since that is exactly why Ellen went through all this so this poor dog would not be sent back to rescue. I'm sure they have homes approved before all this started ( or I would think anyway) Soemone else said they hoped the new owners would not be made public and I hope that too.

BabyFidgette 10-22-2007 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1446816)
There is so much we don't know. One scenario keeps running through my head and it may not be right but Ellen gets the larger dog, the woman comes out and picks up the larger dog because it wasn't working and gives her the smaller pup and thinks to herself will she have the nerve to call me again if this doesn't work out. I bet she might give it or sell it to someone.......so I better keep an eye on this one cause then I could sue the pants off her. And now she can add to that lost business etc and all the threats she says she is getting. Poor Ellen is in for a big fight I'm afraid and if it were me doing this she probably would never check.
I'm lost? What large dog?

sweetr72 10-22-2007 01:28 PM
http://images.eonline.com/static/aud...llen101707.mp3

She adopted an OLDER dog..she didnt day larger...from this agency before adopting Iggy..that dog immediately went after the cats so she thought the puppy would be better...obviously he wasnt...anywho..hopes this helps..

Dawn

crystalsmom 10-22-2007 02:33 PM
This is what I got today

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303567,00.html

Rae Rae 10-23-2007 02:34 PM
At first I felt really bad for Ellen, yeah she should've contacted the agency if it was in her contract, and I understand why the agency has that rule, because you don't want the dog to end up with just any one. I still think they could've looked into the family that Ellen gave the dog too. If Ellen loves animals, I'm sure the family was qualified for the pup.

But today I read this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21425779/
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Is Ellen a serial dog dumper?

Despite her television tears, Ellen DeGeneres may be more adept at the art of pooch passing than previously implied. According to the New York Post’s Page Six, the daytime talk show host/bully pulpit preacher pawned off another pup two years earlier – one she adopted from TV producer Kerri Randles.

Kerri told Page Six that she was shocked to learn Ellen gave away a mutt named Stormy less than two months after she took him home. "She may have had it for much less time than that,” Kerri said. “I only say two months because that's when I called to check on the dog and found out she no longer had it. I was totally shocked. I thought she was out of her mind."

Originally, Ellen seemed keen on the canine. She and her TV staff even grilled Kerri for four hours before Ellen agreed to take Stormy home for a trial visit. A few days later, Ellen told Kerri that Stormy could stay. “She acted like she was keeping it for life," Kerri said. Apparently, it’s an act Ellen’s been working on for a while.

And lest Ellen thinks she’s gotten away with her current pooch problem with Iggy, the ever-accommodating Roseanne posted a memo to her, as well. “You gave away that dog like it was not a living breathing being! You need to learn some respect for living things!!!”
I don't know how reliable the source is, but if it IS true then Ellen needs to have some respect for those that adopt to her and inform them when it's not working out.

crystalsmom 10-23-2007 03:13 PM
Do you remember the border collie she had a few years back and everyone was asked to help name it?? I looked it up and it was 2003 and she got it from a rescue named Oakland. I don't know if she still has it or not but does anyone else remember that. That's when I used to watch her.

yorkiegirl83 10-23-2007 03:19 PM
I don't respect at all how she buys, then gets rid of dogs. I thought a while ago she was talking about buying a mix from a "breeder", but I could be confusing her with someone else.

But, the people I feel the worst for are the family that Ellen gave Iggy too. They didn't do anything wrong and were punished by the actions taken :(.

I don't think a dog is workable with Ellen's lifestyle from how it seems and maybe now she's realized that (hopefully) -- but I do feel bad for her because you can tell she feels SO bad for the family she gave Iggy to.

crystalsmom 10-23-2007 03:23 PM
Yes I feel bad for her too.

BabyFidgette 10-23-2007 03:53 PM
This whole thing is just turning into one big mess. :shocked7q

SugarMama 10-23-2007 03:54 PM
It is awful that all of this happened. We do have think about the fact that she is finding good homes for the dogs when it doesn't work out for her. She could just have someone drop them off at a shelter for her so at least she isn't doing that. Also, I've read a lot of posts on here from people who tell others that they think it would be a better idea for someone to re-home a dog instead of keeping it because the dog can pick up on the fact that they aren't wanted. I'm sure Ellen could have kept Iggy and just kept him secluded from everyone but he wouldn't have been happy not being a real part of the family. I'm just glad that she didn't / hasn't dropped any dogs off at a shelter. In a perfect world she would have kept every dog that she's ever owned, but none of us are perfect and we've all done things that we've later regretted. I know I'm not perfect (not by a long shot!) so I try not to judge others. It doesn't always work, but I try.

sweetr72 11-10-2007 12:36 AM
Does anyone know what became of Iggy??

crystalsmom 11-10-2007 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1505967)
Does anyone know what became of Iggy??
Good Morning Dawn, no I don't. I get google alerts almost every morning about this (most just repeating what we have heard) but no more mention of Iggy and where Iggy is right now. That's good in many ways, I would think as much as we'd like to know he's safe and in a good home.

Have a good day.

yorkiesmiles 11-10-2007 08:03 AM
follow-up on Iggy
 
I just saw a commercial last night for the tv-mag show called "The Insider" they said they have located Iggy & would have an exclusive on him on their Monday show. But I think this show is linked with ET - so they'll probably have the story too - and - lol- everyone else will get on the Iggy bandwagon again.

Still breaks my heart though that those girls lost Iggy

MyFairLacy 11-10-2007 11:04 AM
The story did just kindof trail off...I'm assuming the family never got Iggy back

yorkiesmiles 11-12-2007 04:34 PM
Entertainment Tonight is going to do a story on Iggy tonight - it's on here right now

Keno 11-12-2007 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiesmiles (Post 1513052)
Entertainment Tonight is going to do a story on Iggy tonight - it's on here right now
thanks going to watch it ....


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