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mizzwanned 10-07-2006 07:10 AM

Wow that could have hurt your baby seriously but I am so glad it didn't and everything turned out ok. As for your nephew, his parents must be doing something wrong for him to be acting like that even at 16. My mom spanked me when I was little, it's normal in hispanic families but my dad never did and my dad would only have to tell me something once and I would listen, just because I respected him and liked him more for not spanking me lol But I guess every child is different...IDK I don't think I will spank my kids when I have them, I mean I will try not to but if they do something as horrible as punching a pregnant woman's belly they would have to get it to make sure they know what they did was completely wrong, if it were little things, or things that aren't that serious I would just let them know what they did wrong and punish them, away from their toys, and everything. As for my bf's neice we had to take her with us because we were outside on the street and she wouldn't let go of my bf 'cause he had the dog carrier and her mom was walking away,s o we had no choice. She told us to take her with us so since my bf is her uncle he was like fine. If she weren't related to him or me I would not have taken her and told her mom to. Her mom is wrong for not disciplining her well, and when she does she just fits her but she still doesn't listen. I think with kids like that you need to talk to them eye to eye. Everyone raises their children differently though, and whatever works for them yay just no child abusing, hitting hard and I'm ok with it. Me and my brother got hit constantly with the belt to the point where we got used to it and would stuff our clothes with pillows, etc then just laugh when my mom was done. I would listen to not get hit, but that's only because I was scared and I don't think that's how to get a child to understand what they did wrong. Unless of couse they did something that could jeopardize someone else's life.

shecass 10-07-2006 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK
Your bf's neice is her mother's problem, but when she is with you, or at your house then you have the right to speak up and correct her.

If she were my bf's neice and she was crying because she couldn't get her own way, I'd simply tell her to knock it off, that it wasn't going to work on me so she may as well stop.

You'd be surprised how much they understand. They know it's an act.

I'd also let her know that it was MY dog and I was the boss of who holds MY dog, and I didn't care how she cried.

You might just earn her respect cause evidently she doesn't respect her mother or her uncle, and probably not the grandparents either.


I agree. My son is 10 and is high functioning autistic and I have never let him get away with anything like that. My niece is 12 and she has Aspergers which is a form of Autism but, she has never been displined, she talks back and says nasty things to my sister, and is so hateful. She doesn't do it with me or my mom because I immediately tell her I'm not her mom and I will not put up with her smart mouth and that she will be displined if I feel she needs to be. After that we are fine you can't give in to them you have to let them know who's boss. As far as the temper tantrums. I would just send her to her room until she got it out of her system and not pay any attention to her at all unless she try to hurt hersel or someone else.

I'm glad you little one seems to be doing better.

shecass 10-07-2006 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Willow
OK, I know a lot of people won't agree with me, but if that was my niece, I would give her a good sound spanking!!! I wouldn't care if her mom WAS right there! That child sounds like a spoiled brat!

Now I don't believe in spanking for everything, the punishment has to fit the crime. Timeouts do not work with all kids. (not with mine anyway) My kids suffer more if I pack up all the toys they have and lock the toys up for a determined amount of time (We call this the Dr. Phil method). Then they have to earn their toys back...one toy at a time....

But that crying because she doesn't get her own way?? NO NO NO I wouldn't have taken her home with me just because she was crying!! I would have told her that crying doesn't work for me and she wouldn't be getting her own way. She should have been left with her mother to deal with since her behavior is the fault of her mothers. Let the person who raised her to be that way deal with it.

I have a nephew that pulled the same crap. He cried to get his way until he was 13 years old!! He is 16 now and HE STILL ACTS LIKE A BABY to get his own way with his parents. When he was 8 and I was pregnant with my daughter he punched me in the stomach. LET ME TELL YOU that was the BIGGEST family fight WE EVER HAD! His mom was standing right there when he hit me (thankfully he didn't really hurt me but it was the principal of it!) and she patted his shoulder and told him it was ok. I snatched that kid up and I whooped his butt right in front of his parents. Needless to say they have all hated me since. This is my husbands sister and her kids. Course, pissed them off even more when my husband backed me up. LOL

As for your furbaby, NO NO NO your niece shouldn't be carrying him even in his carrier!! She should have been told, you can pet him, but he is too small for you to carry. Why not get her one of those toy carriers with a stuffed puppy in it??? They are only like $10 or less and then when she comes to your house or you guys are out together she can have her own puppy to carry around. Just a thought.


I most deinintely agree with you. Some kids need a spanking every now and then. You have to show them that they are not in control and that you are the boss. My son is 10 and I can't tell you when the last time was that I had to spank him. He normally gets his computer time taken away and things of that nature and that works very well.

I agree time out doesn't work with all kids. I didn't get a lot of spankings when I was a kid but, if I needed it I got it. Kids need not only respect for their parents but a little fear as well. Of course this is JMO. I'm not trying to start something.

ButterflyYorkie 10-07-2006 11:22 AM

Even if she's there with the yorkie and the child...a child can act fast and grab something on a whim. I would have to put my foot down on that one and not allow that child around my dog until the child's parent took control of the situation. I was raised by one of the most loving families on this earth. We were taught right from wrong. We were spanked when we needed it and believe me looking back we needed it at times. Taking things away from us or grounding us didn't work...we lived on a huge property full of animals and things to do and that just would not have cut it. It's kind of hard to take anything away or ground a younger child any way...and in our case back then we didnt have cell phones, video games and computers to ground us from. My child has had spankings in the past. She hasn't had one in a very long long time, but when she did get a few of them, I never had a repeat of her bad behavior afterwards. I've been very lucky and consider my child a pretty well be-haved girl. But she has had her times in the past just as any child. I am NOT an abuser because I spanked my child when she NEEDED it.

I do not believe in anyone spanking anyone else's child. I also realize we all have different beliefs on the subject of spanking in the first place. I'd go off on anyone who put their hands on my child, but I feel that as parents we should take care of a situation before it gets out of hand. NO ONE LIKES to spank their children. The old saying it hurts me more than it hurts you is very true. But I am a firm believer in NOT allowing my child to run crazy and cause any harm to anyone else's life so therefore when other children are around my animals I expect the parent to take control of the situation how ever they see fit just as I would not allow mine to do that to them. Plain and simple I don't allow very young children to handle my dogs. One of my best friends has two very small children and she understands and feels the same way. These little dogs ONLY HAVE US to look out for their best interest and sometimes you just gotta put your foot down.

Tophersmom 10-08-2006 05:57 AM

Well, I'd definitely put my foot down and not allow anyone to handle my pup...especially with him being that small. Most certainly I wouldn't let a 5 year old control the situation. She needs to be sat down (by you) and you need to explain why it's necessary to be so careful with this little guy. Get on her level. If you explain things on her level, you may be pleasantly surprised.

I agree with Villette about the spanking. I'd freak if anyone touched my kids in that way. My kids have NEVER been spanked and are the most respectful, kind and thoughtful kids. We made the concious decision not to use corporal punishment with the kids as I find violence only begets violence...plus it doesn't solve the original problem. Talking to the kids has always worked for us...and strict discipline, of course, by other means...not spanking.

It's certainly something that people feel very strongly about...whether you believe in spanking or not. Each to his own is my attitude, but when it comes to someone else touching my kids, that's another story.

Rae Rae 10-08-2006 07:28 AM

Not too long after I got Rocky, he fell off a couch onto a hardwood floor and twisted his neck. He couldn't turn his neck back around! I was so scared, but after a couple seconds he fixed it on his own. Right after that he was running around playing again. I was also worried about any delayed injuries, and I had to take him to the vet a week or so later. I told the vet and she said that if an injury doesn't show up within the next day or so, than he is fine.

I'm glad your baby was OK! Hopefully no injuries will show up!

mizzwanned 10-08-2006 03:03 PM

Just to let everyone know thank you for your advice and Teddy is doing very good. He is playful, running around and happy. Although I am still taking him to the vet on Tuesday to have him checked out. Thanks guys!


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