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EarthAngel 09-01-2015 09:38 AM

Judy, you asked where are the government officials are during all of this mayhem? Last I heard the President is in Alaska changing the name of a mountain and the Atty. General...who knows! They are like deer in the headlights. Not one word from anyone.

I am so sorry to hear of yet another Police Officer dying. Prayers for his family.

Yorkiemom1 09-01-2015 09:56 AM

Well, I guess it is on......

I have been talking to my cousin about going into the flight department with HPD....flying the helicopters. But he loves interacting with the public....he is just the kind of cop that will end up getting shot and killed by some cop hating thug.....they are considering putting two officers in a car again...they do that when the idiot thugs go on rampages and start advocating murdering police officers. I would be their WORST nightmare if I was an officer.....they just think they have seen crazy cops!!!.....I am sorry but there is not a rampaging, vulgar, hate-filled thug alive that I am willing to die for.......

maxdog 09-01-2015 10:03 AM

The police have a very dangerous job but not just from the crazies in the world. A Michigan State trooper on a motorcycle was struck by a 70 year old man (who did not even realize he hit him) and dragged 4.3 miles under a trailer the man was pulling. He died within 24 hours.

yorkietalkjilly 09-01-2015 10:24 AM

Our DOJ and Commander in Chief have got to work together to start to bring this cop-hating portion of our citizenry into a better understanding and appreciation of just what cops do for this country - for all of us, our parents, brother and sisters and kids. Our President could strongly request and personally ask for the help of our rock and rap stars, putting all the weight of his presidency and legacy on the line.

Without a vibrant police force, we would literally have chaos and anarchy in our streets and no one would be safe in our homes or going to work, school, shopping or church. Why aren't those protesting groups meeting with fatherless and motherless kids and teens several times a week and helping them, making real connections with those hopeless kids and giving them some help, a job for those old enough to work and individual hope rather than raging in the streets over cops? Where are Bieber, Taylor Swift, RGIII, Eminem, PDiddy, Richard Sherman, Beastie Boys, Jay - Z, his wife, Tom Brady, the Gronk, Matt Damon, Beyonce and Kanye, Snoop Dogg, Ben Affleck, Miley, Nicki Minaj and other stars - all worth hundreds of millions of dollars individually - who could take time from their busy travel and party schedules to give back in a meaningful way - not just throw $$$ at the problem but actually meet one-on-one with these kids, give them honest personal time, give them jobs, pay for schooling, decent clothes, breakfast/dinner and hope for a real future? Just knowing someone they admire personally cares about them could make a huge difference if they had hope of a future.

Bet a task force a President many of their older brothers and family voted for, an organization formed to actually help them, consisting of those stars and even professional athletes that younger kids and teens admire and even envy, would be a powerful force for change if only those wealthy, entitled elites would PERSONALLY get involved face-to-face - not throw $ at the problem and go on about their lives but get personally involved. If only they would actually put themselves out there on that wall - like they expect out cops to do while many of those very music stars "sing" rap songs they sell for personal profit that utterly demean and vilify our police force - who are out there standing on that wall IN PERSON, dealing with these kids face-to-face every single day, to keep us safe, their careers in always jeopardy if they misjudge any situation, same as we all misjudge situations at times of stress and violence when our very lives are on the line.

OwnedByJezebel 09-01-2015 10:37 AM

And now there is this one, an off-duty Abilene, TX cop found dead in his home this morning under suspicious circumstances:

Police: Off-duty Abilene officer found dead, death 'suspicious' | News - Home

I've head additional info on this one that is rumor at this time so I won't repeat it here. If true, it chills me to the bone.

yorkietalkjilly 09-01-2015 10:48 AM

Wonder how the President, PC pundits and cop-haters would react if some of our more political cops and their supporters exercised their freedom of speech and marched down urban streets yelling and carrying signs touting "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen To Happen To All Cop-haters? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!".

Yorkiemom1 09-01-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4588701)
Wonder how the President, PC pundits and cop-haters would react if some of our more political cops and their supporters exercised their freedom of speech and marched down urban streets yelling and carrying signs touting "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen To Happen To All Cop-haters? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!".

OMG!!!! The country would come to a screeching halt!! All the politicians that have remained quiet as church mice, hiding in the shadows playing like they are taking care of business, and the President and all his minions.....maybe THAT would possibly bring them out from their little busy hiding places, busy re-naming mountains while the streets, side walks, cities, and countryside of America are being overthrown by fist pumping, sign carrying, savage chanting of hatred and anarchy, public promoting of slaughtering police officers with absolutely no fear of condemnation by any of the people in charge of this country.....we have been warned this was going to happen, for YEARS, by our own senior citizens....and indeed it seems the warnings are coming to pass.

Can you just imagine what would happen if mobs of people came out and actually chanted " "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen? To Happen To All Cop-haters/Cop Killers? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!". THAT would bring the politicians out of their "busy" little schedules!!! BUT, in defense of all the cop haters I am certain! I heard the president CALLED the officers wife and expressed his condolences to her privately.....WHY?? WHY privately?? WHY not out front and center, like he did for others that felt they had been attacked and killed "unjustly"by police officers? Where is he, defiantly condemning the cop haters, the fist pumping mobs, threatening death to police officers? Boy, I dont know about anyone else, but I am feeling "real safe" about now.......NOT!!! And now, they want to take our guns????!!!!!

The outpouring of love and respect and honor for that officer, Officer Goforth, is inspirational. Civilized, law abiding citizens of all races, nationalities, weeping and gathering and honoring that officer, PEACEFUL gatherings, PEACEFUL demonstrations of civility and love and honor and respect, displayed by thousands and thousands of people...people that knew him, people he had interacted with as he patrolled the streets, people he interacted with in grocery stores, law abiding citizens that have love and respect for these men that will unselfishly throw themselves between any of us and the ones coming after us.......amazing and very gratifying to witness how the throngs of people are actually being civilized and respectful.....amazing and so gratifying to see how civilized people know how to conduct themselves in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, it would seem civility and respect and sane commitment to a cause, is not heard and does not garner support and respect from "the people in charge".....it is indeed "the squeeky wheel that is oiled"....

OwnedByJezebel 09-01-2015 02:49 PM

A HCSO deputy reported that yesterday, as he was filling up his patrol car, a stranger walked up to him and said "I've got your back." Then the man stood there in the parking lot and scanned all around to be sure the deputy was safe. The deputy went in to buy something and the stranger didn't leave until the deputy was back in his patrol car and back on the road.

We had a situation here yesterday when a high speed chase that started in Houston ended about a mile from my house. I didn't realize anything was going down until I heard helicopters and went outside and saw police and news helicopters hovering stationary practically over my house.

Click2houston had the last 20 minutes on video (they've taken that down now). At the point where the chase ended, Hwy 59 chokes down to two lanes and it really backs up, so he had nowhere to go and decided to drive into a construction area in the median (current project to widen the highway) in the dirt. I thought he was going to mow down some construction workers. He finally ditched the car and jumped a barrier and ran across the northbound lanes and around a business (barefoot and having trouble keeping his pants up) then ended up outside of a nursing home where a couple was unloading a van. A white jeep came into the picture and not long after the guy stopped running and laid down on the concrete on his stomach with his arms and legs spread out. The on-air announcers were wondering if he gave up because he was exhausted and couldn't run anymore. It was just weird because the police were not even close to him. Maybe 20 seconds later the police got there and they cuffed him and put him into the patrol car without incident.

Today I found out that he stopped running because there was a guy in that white jeep who saw the all the police cars on the freeway and this guy running and was afraid that the fugitive was going to do something to the couple unloading the van, perhaps carjack them or something to continue his spree. He yelled out to the perp that he had a concealed carry license and he had a gun and knew how to use it. Told the perp to get down on the ground and he did. Another law-abiding citizen with a CHL that was able to stop a bad guy.

Yorkiemom1 09-01-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 4588734)
A HCSO deputy reported that yesterday, as he was filling up his patrol car, a stranger walked up to him and said "I've got your back." Then the man stood there in the parking lot and scanned all around to be sure the deputy was safe. The deputy went in to buy something and the stranger didn't leave until the deputy was back in his patrol car and back on the road.

We had a situation here yesterday when a high speed chase that started in Houston ended about a mile from my house. I didn't realize anything was going down until I heard helicopters and went outside and saw police and news helicopters hovering stationary practically over my house.

Click2houston had the last 20 minutes on video (they've taken that down now). At the point where the chase ended, Hwy 59 chokes down to two lanes and it really backs up, so he had nowhere to go and decided to drive into a construction area in the median (current project to widen the highway) in the dirt. I thought he was going to mow down some construction workers. He finally ditched the car and jumped a barrier and ran across the northbound lanes and around a business (barefoot and having trouble keeping his pants up) then ended up outside of a nursing home where a couple was unloading a van. A white jeep came into the picture and not long after the guy stopped running and laid down on the concrete on his stomach with his arms and legs spread out. The on-air announcers were wondering if he gave up because he was exhausted and couldn't run anymore. It was just weird because the police were not even close to him. Maybe 20 seconds later the police got there and they cuffed him and put him into the patrol car without incident.

Today I found out that he stopped running because there was a guy in that white jeep who saw the all the police cars on the freeway and this guy running and was afraid that the fugitive was going to do something to the couple unloading the van, perhaps carjack them or something to continue his spree. He yelled out to the perp that he had a concealed carry license and he had a gun and knew how to use it. Told the perp to get down on the ground and he did. Another law-abiding citizen with a CHL that was able to stop a bad guy.


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
I SAW this!!! WOW!! Wasnt this super!! Civilized people are getting tired of being victimized by ner-do-wells!!! Good for the man that stopped the thug!!

I am just seeing on the news the total donations collected at just the service station alone, is amounting to a little over $90,000.00, in addition to over $100,000.00 collected on the go-fund-me-site. What a wonderful thing for that family....out pouring of love by so many people, especially from the community that officer lived and worked in.

yorkietalkjilly 09-01-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4588722)
OMG!!!! The country would come to a screeching halt!! All the politicians that have remained quiet as church mice, hiding in the shadows playing like they are taking care of business, and the President and all his minions.....maybe THAT would possibly bring them out from their little busy hiding places, busy re-naming mountains while the streets, side walks, cities, and countryside of America are being overthrown by fist pumping, sign carrying, savage chanting of hatred and anarchy, public promoting of slaughtering police officers with absolutely no fear of condemnation by any of the people in charge of this country.....we have been warned this was going to happen, for YEARS, by our own senior citizens....and indeed it seems the warnings are coming to pass.

Can you just imagine what would happen if mobs of people came out and actually chanted " "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen? To Happen To All Cop-haters/Cop Killers? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!". THAT would bring the politicians out of their "busy" little schedules!!! BUT, in defense of all the cop haters I am certain! I heard the president CALLED the officers wife and expressed his condolences to her privately.....WHY?? WHY privately?? WHY not out front and center, like he did for others that felt they had been attacked and killed "unjustly"by police officers? Where is he, defiantly condemning the cop haters, the fist pumping mobs, threatening death to police officers? Boy, I dont know about anyone else, but I am feeling "real safe" about now.......NOT!!! And now, they want to take our guns????!!!!!

The outpouring of love and respect and honor for that officer, Officer Goforth, is inspirational. Civilized, law abiding citizens of all races, nationalities, weeping and gathering and honoring that officer, PEACEFUL gatherings, PEACEFUL demonstrations of civility and love and honor and respect, displayed by thousands and thousands of people...people that knew him, people he had interacted with as he patrolled the streets, people he interacted with in grocery stores, law abiding citizens that have love and respect for these men that will unselfishly throw themselves between any of us and the ones coming after us.......amazing and very gratifying to witness how the throngs of people are actually being civilized and respectful.....amazing and so gratifying to see how civilized people know how to conduct themselves in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, it would seem civility and respect and sane commitment to a cause, is not heard and does not garner support and respect from "the people in charge".....it is indeed "the squeeky wheel that is oiled"....

Just wondered how they would like some of their own medicine forcefed to them for a change!!!! Marching crowds carrying incendiary signs and chanting for THEIR violent deaths. They and all like-minded pundits would all just fall over in a faint as they think the first amendment gives only them the right to protest and say anything they feel like saying, however irresponsible.

You are so right, Judy, compared with the cop-haters, that Officer Goforth march of honor was kind-hearted, respectful and beautiful.

Yorkiemom1 09-02-2015 04:46 PM

Some police departments have re-instituted two officers per car....I hope they do that here in Houston/Texas....That poor officer that was going to retire at the end of the month, gave chase to 3 men and they murdered him, stole his belt/gun/etc, and have now disappeared. Praying they catch them before they kill another innocent soul.....they are "cop killers" now with nothing to loose....what big loss is another innocent person that stumbles in their pathway.....

ColesMommy01 09-02-2015 05:38 PM

It seems like it's been open season on minorities since...forever. It's terrible when a police officer is killed for just doing their job. I have a family member who's the first female sheriff of her town and would be devastated if something happened to her. With that being said....

There are some hateful, racist, disgusting sorry excuses for human beings who think just because they carry a badge and are "trained" (some very poorly I might add) to use a weapon in circumstances where they feel "threatened" they should shoot first and figure out what's REALLY going on later.

I'm Afro Caribbean my husband is Cuban our son is mixed. I'm on pins and needles for when my son is older and will be labeled a threat by law enforcement agencies just based on the color of his skin. They'll shoot my child for reaching for his insurance info if he gets pulled over for something as simple as not using his turn signal, but allow a white male to walk down a busy street carrying a visable weapon with just a few questions asked and let the white male carry on while my kid will be in a morgue.

I'm law abiding, but gawd forbid I get pulled over for some perceived infraction from the police. I do not want to end up like Freddy Gray or Sandra Bland.


I would be paranoid and fearful ESPECIALLY if I had my child with me. Individuals are always stating that if you're not doing anything wrong you have no reason to not trust the police/law enforcement. Usually this comes from those who've never had discrimination hit close to home and I'll be damned if I allow someone badge or not hurt my child while I'm still living and so help me if I'm dead I'll come back from the grave and find a way to get whoever was stupid enough to touch him.

We're not asking for special treatment, We're asking that law enforcement have better training, use fatal shots as a last resort, and treat our lives as if they matter.

#blacklivesmatter

ironmike86 09-02-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4588899)
It seems like it's been open season on minorities since...forever. It's terrible when a police officer is killed for just doing their job. I have a family member who's the first female sheriff of her town and would be devastated if something happened to her. With that being said....

There are some hateful, racist, disgusting sorry excuses for human beings who think just because they carry a badge and are "trained" (some very poorly I might add) to use a weapon in circumstances where they feel "threatened" they should shoot first and figure out what's REALLY going on later.

I'm Afro Caribbean my husband is Cuban our son is mixed. I'm on pins and needles for when my son is older and will be labeled a threat by law enforcement agencies just based on the color of his skin. They'll shoot my child for reaching for his insurance info if he gets pulled over for something as simple as not using his turn signal, but allow a white male to walk down a busy street carrying a visable weapon with just a few questions asked and let the white male carry on while my kid will be in a morgue.

I'm law abiding, but gawd forbid I get pulled over for some perceived infraction from the police. I do not want to end up like Freddy Gray or Sandra Bland.


I would be paranoid and fearful ESPECIALLY if I had my child with me. Individuals are always stating that if you're not doing anything wrong you have no reason to not trust the police/law enforcement. Usually this comes from those who've never had discrimination hit close to home and I'll be damned if I allow someone badge or not hurt my child while I'm still living and so help me if I'm dead I'll come back from the grave and find a way to get whoever was stupid enough to touch him.

We're not asking for special treatment, We're asking that law enforcement have better training, use fatal shots as a last resort, and treat our lives as if they matter.

#blacklivesmatter

Its how you react when your stopped. I carry a firearm wherever I go. Cops never say anything to me. Why. I'm not attracting attention and I'm not breaking the law. I'm not a white man

Yorkiemom1 09-02-2015 07:38 PM

My brother and I are white ....years ago, like back early 70s, he was in a car with 4 other young men....(my brother and I have been raised to respect adults, period! That includes police officers....we have never sassed our parents or most certainly no other adult, especially anyone in authority, always "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am")..... The car was pulled over and the two officers told the boys to get out of the car....two of the boys were black.....they did EXACTLY as instructed.....spoke only when spoken to, never assumed belligerent or challenging posture or attitude......no sassy, "dont disrespect me" attitude displayed by any of these boys.....the police detained them for over 40 minutes because the light on the license plate was burned out....they were patted down, the officers COMPLETELY disassembled the car, took the seats out, pulled the carpet up, etc!!! and then when they were satisfied this car load of polite young men had nothing on them or in the car, they left them there alone to put the car back together, in the dark ....

One of the problems today, people do not think they have to tolerate being stopped by the police for ANY reason....it is REAL common for a lot of them to immediately start getting sassy or start challenging the officer for stopping them. They start trying to outline what THEIR "rights" are....."I dont have to do this, I dont have to do that", I aint doing that and you cant make me"..... NOT smart.....answer questions asked, be polite and not indignant.....these people, regardless how "right" they think they are, just need to do as you are told, stay civil, and then fight it in court. You have no idea what that officer just ran into or dealt with 30 minutes before he stopped you. But it runs against alot of people's grain to even consider being respectful to an officer....they cop an attitude, get jiggy, start hollering, threatening, may even bolt and run, simply because they think they are too important to have to deal with the police.....they consider the police and that particular encounter, an "infringement" on their "self importance" and time. People need to realize they are not one bit more important than the police officer or anyone else....act like you respect the officer and you will like wise be respected.

The number of way ward, outlaw officers on any given police force is negligible, especially when compared to the number of law breakers running the streets. Every single police officer has just as much right to expect to be safe when encountering individuals, as those individuals have. Problems arise when people dont follow instructions, break and run, get smart mouthed, start yelling and cussing and throw out attitude, start reaching inside jackets or pockets or purses or under seats.....regardless of what color or nationality you are, just treat that officer like you would want him to treat you....treat them with respect and be polite and do as asked/told/instructed to do, without getting an attitude. You treat these officers with the same respect and fairness that you expect from them, and there will be no issues. You have a problem with the stop or the officer, just take his name (not all "up in your face, hollering, screaming, threatening and spitting, I will sue you and the entire State" attitude)and then take care of the issue you have when you get your lawyer to fight the ticket the officer issues you.

Police officers have every much a right to expect to conduct a safe encounter as anyone that is stopped has the right to a safe interaction with that officer. Respect gains respect....if you instill in your kids the notion that police officers are out to get them or do them harm if they are ever stopped, that is deliberately setting up a bad situation. As long as people treat officers with respect, they have no problems...but that seems to be the issue now days....people seem to think police are the enemy, do not "deserve" respect, and should be sassed, disrespected, and they instigate foul mouthed encounters with them, then get all "Man hey what happened???" attitude when the officer addresses their bad behavior. As far as waiting until they can ascertain that the person with his hand in his waistband, is not going to pull out a gun and shoot him.....that police officer has just as much right to live as the person they are encountering....if you are stopped by an officer, and they are telling you to keep your hands up, and you are full of attitude and loud mouthed belligerence and reaching inside your jacket, or pants, or purse, or under the car seat, you can pretty well expect to get shot, with a gun or a taser, as well you should be....your life is not one drop of blood more important than the officer's life is.....dont instigate a situation where you might get shot, and you wont get shot. THAT is what I teach my own son....especially, statistically a fact, since there are more of our white sons shot by police officers than black sons, my son has been taught not to fear police, but how to be respectful and follow instructions and do EXACTLY what you are told to do, when you are told to do it, if you are ever in an encounter with an officer.

#policelivesmatterequally

ColesMommy01 09-02-2015 08:04 PM

But how many Caucasians are pulled over, patted down, cars disassembled for "routine" traffic stops versus nonwhites? By all means law enforcement should do their jobs effectively and to the best of their abilities, but if their perceptions are already clouded by the prejudgement that the nonwhite individual is a threat how effective can they really do their jobs???

Tbh what a cop goes through before interacting with me shouldn't have anything to do with how he treats me. I'm a wife, mother, and nurse. If my husband and son do something to annoy me should I take it out on one of my patients because of what someone else did? No, I think not. We're all hunan, make mistakes, not perfect but those in law enforcement professions need to have better training and not use the fatal measures as their first line of defense if other options are available.

If I get pulled over, I'm trying to go on about my business as quickly as possible. Giving "attitude", "sass", or whatever you think, is the furthest thing on my mind.


My son isn't taught to fear police, but he is taught his history which unfortunately includes police brutality. I will say a lot of children no matter what ethnicity are not taught to have respect for any authority figures which can elevate certain situations.

I'm not excusing that individual in Texas actions if they shot the police officer while he was pumping gas(seems cowardly and inhumane) ESPECIALLY with no provocation.

Do you happen to have a link with the statistics of the number of whites being killed by police vs non whites? I'd like to discuss it on another board I'm a member of.

ironmike86 09-03-2015 03:49 AM

Among the first 500 deaths, 49.6% of people were white, 28.2% were black and 14.8% were Hispanic/Latino. According to the 2013 census, the US population is 62.6% white, 13.2% black and 17.1% Hispanic/Latino.
The Counted: number of people killed by police this year reaches 500 | US news | The Guardian
You can search and find many places. But when you factor years and gang related activity. Theres more minority gangs.
The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police.

ColesMommy01 09-03-2015 04:34 AM

Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people | US news | The Guardian

Thanks for the link Ironmike. The link I provided is the issue I have with law enforcement. The police I've had the pleasure of interacting with have been nothing but polite and respectful *knock on wood*.

I personally don't think it's "open season" on police officers because there's not as much media attention and action being taken as one would like.

If that were the case the same thing could be said about the recent massacre at the African American church (unprovoked and the suspect was taken to get fast food before being booked) or the issue concerning the pregnant Native woman who was shot and killed(officer was let off even though it was proven he had other weapons that were nonfatal and could have been used. She did have a knife and was standing more than a few feet away).

yorkietalkjilly 09-04-2015 08:35 AM

Always remember, unarmed doesn't mean a person is not highly, even lethally, dangerous when its your life and limb at risk.

Do the statistics say how many of those unarmed were totally in compliance with police orders at the time of the shooting or how many were in the act of resisting arrest, threatening or trying to assault the cop or another person or child when shot? Am I wrong or are haven't most of the cop shootings publicized on TV within the last 2 years happened after the unarmed person was thought to be threatening with a weapon, in the act of resisting the cop or trying to assault the officer who shot?

Yorkiemom1 09-04-2015 11:26 AM

It was a stunning, beautiful funeral this am for our Deputy Goforth here in Houston. His poor, pitiful wife, stunned and in shock, was awestruck at the massive outpouring of love and honor for her husband.....frequently placing her hand over her broken heart.... Clearly such a moving memorial in honor of her husband.....by officers from all over the United States.....

I pray this is a turning point for the good in this country, for all the officers that throw themselves between we the innocent, and the crooks, thieves, murderers, and haters that are now actively prowling the streets, espousing hatred and vile contempt for civilized behavior and rule of law. I think there are, at this moment in time, more good, honest, civilized, law abiding citizens on the streets than there are hostile, hate filled thugs, inciting and declaring civil war against police and law abiding citizens, but God only knows how much longer that will be fact.

Chanting and singing for the outright murder and maiming of police officers, can not and should not be tolerated. THIS is NOT freedom of speech....this is inciting riots....this is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater..... This contempt and hatred for civilized behavior and rule of law, by the minority, can not be accepted as the norm, in a civilized country.

I can only just imagine what would happen if the majority of citizens in this country, hit the streets chanting such sing-song hatred against the thugs and the lawless citizens, if the civilized majority took up marching and inciting riotous behavior and demanding some kind of horrible, cruel death to these thugs that are inciting civil disobedience and murder to police officers......barbaric, sing song rhyming "oink, oink, bang, bang", actually encouraging lawless idiots to murder policemen.....These "pigs" are all that is standing between civilized people and these lawless thugs, and if they DO ever manage to actually "rid civilization of the 'pigs'", rest assured these thugs are going to be coming after each of US, our homes, our families, what we have,.... we will be next because these lawless thugs know no boundaries and, in THEIR own warped sense, what YOU have actually belongs to THEM and they will be coming after it, etc .... We just can not let this evil overthrow civilized behavior in this country.

The majority of the rest of the entire world has deteriorated into fighting, brutality, murderous, cruel, hedonistic, uncivilized carnage....THAT can not be allowed to happen in this country. The lawless brutality, the hedonistic rioting and civil disobedience can not be portrayed and accepted as "the rule of law" in this country......that lawless behavior can not be tolerated, and I am prayerful that there will be a growing empowerment from civil, law abiding citizens, and that this uncivilized, hedonistic, barbaric behavior will NOT be tolerated, by the civilized people in this country. We had all better stand up and declare that this is indeed enough....no more will be tolerated..... or each one of us will be over run by the lawlessness and contemptuous hatred for civility these gangsters, zealots, and thuggery are flagrantly displaying with absolutely NO reprimand from their own compatriots of like but more civilized, law abiding minds.

OwnedByJezebel 09-04-2015 01:37 PM

Amen, Yorkiemom1. The thin blue line that separates us from anarchy is fragile, but I think a sleeping giant has been awakened.

It was a very moving service, and the look on his wife's and daughter's face was heartbreaking indeed. I don't know how one moves on from something like this, but they don't have a choice.

They did catch the cretin thugs (a husband and wife) that killed the off-duty Amarillo officer in his home.

Yorkiemom1 09-04-2015 03:31 PM

Received a word of caution this evening from several police friends/family....I am instructed/strongly encouraged to remove any and all bumper stickers, window decals, etc...anything that signifies I have any police officers in my family, or that I support any police department, remove these decals of honor or symbolic decals of respect and devotion and support, because apparently street word is, automobiles and people displaying such stickers are going to be targets for harm and rebellion from those that want to do harm to our officers/family members. So.............now while the rebel in me says "bring it on", my police officer family members say, "dont wave a red flag in a bull's face....this is not a game....you are challenging thugs that could care less if you live or die and they will walk up totally unprovoked and blow you away....this is no game or joke.....remove the stickers until we can get some control over this".......so I guess I will begin to remove any and all decals denoting support for the police or that I have members in my family that are police.....this, in America.......unbelievable.

OwnedByJezebel 09-04-2015 05:07 PM

Unbelievable is an understatement. This would affect all those that put a line of blue painter's tape across their back glass or have a 100 club sticker.

ironmike86 09-04-2015 05:21 PM

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Sums it up. How ppl feel about the Black Panthers saying they will creep up and kills cops. Forgot the guys name who said that a week before the killing. He may have not meant it. Because they arent saying anything now that I have read. But ppl are putting race into like they want a civil war. But mostly the extremes

Yorkiemom1 09-04-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 4589160)
Unbelievable is an understatement. This would affect all those that put a line of blue painter's tape across their back glass or have a 100 club sticker.


:thumbup::thumbup::cool:

My son has just finished removing all police oriented decals or references from my car, including the 100 club stickers. While it absolutely enrages me that I have to do this, I can not take a chance of some fanatical idiot ambushing me and leaving my son without a mother, and I certainly could not risk him getting caught in crossfire if some rampaging thug shoots at us in the car.

The man on the cover of that (ironmikes) magazine is the one that was parading up and down a line of armed thugs, chanting, "oink, oink, bang, bang...."....

ironmike86 09-04-2015 06:06 PM

There's fanatics in all races. I'm not a Blackman but in the 80s I new some black panthers..they were decent men and there ideas weren't fantical. Then there's the ppl who prey on the young ppl who are still searching who they are. Arian nation whatever. Fanatics. The good ppl like us just get caught in the mix. But I try to stay the grey man. I wouldn't want to unleash the beast.. I maybe get caught up and leave my babies

Yorkiemom1 09-04-2015 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmike86 (Post 4589164)
There's fanatics in all races. I'm not a Blackman but in the 80s I new some black panthers..they were decent men and there ideas weren't fantical. Then there's the ppl who prey on the young ppl who are still searching who they are. Arian nation whatever. Fanatics. The good ppl like us just get caught in the mix. But I try to stay the grey man. I wouldn't want to unleash the beast.. I maybe get caught up and leave my babies

I LOVE this analogy......this is right where I am.....

ColesMommy01 09-05-2015 05:46 AM

From what I've studied the Black Panther mindset currently is completely different than what it was when first developed. Do all Black Panthers support killing police officers? No! But there are always going to be extremist in any group whether it's the Black Panthers, animal rights activists, etc.

I had no idea they were advising people to remove law enforcement support paraphernalia.

I honestly don't know and won't guess what a police officer may consider threatening behavior. I've seen videos where non whites are doing things and are shot whereas a white person does the same, is not shot, and is somewhat treated like a "buddy" or child.

It comes across as people justifying unwarranted law enforcement behavior, but when an innocent cop is killed individuals want justice NOW. Where was the justice with the pregnant Native woman, Sandra Bland, Treyvon, Freddy Gray, etc?

Law enforcement need better training, period. People need to stop making excuses, period. From my understanding the Black Panthers are taking their stance because they see law enforcement treating the black community unjustly(killings, arrest,etc).

Where's the public upset for that? Maybe it's just a culture/ideal clash because I am part of the minority who is often targeted, and *some* of you are not. You wouldn't understand the depth of the problem because the problem doesn't directly effect you.

Wylie's Mom 09-05-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 4589160)
Unbelievable is an understatement. This would affect all those that put a line of blue painter's tape across their back glass or have a 100 club sticker.

What does "blue painters tape" mean, what is that for? What is the 100 club? #clueless

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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4589299)
Maybe it's just a culture/ideal clash because I am part of the minority who is often targeted, and *some* of you are not. You wouldn't understand the depth of the problem because the problem doesn't directly effect you.

I think we can understand the depth of the problem, however, what I think many of us cannot understand is what it actually *feels* like if you're of a category of people who are seemingly being targeted. For example, we've heard of many outcries that young black men are being targeted (Treyvon etc)...and I can't even imagine what that must feel like...what that fear must be like.

ironmike86 09-05-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4589299)
From what I've studied the Black Panther mindset currently is completely different than what it was when first developed. Do all Black Panthers support killing police officers? No! But there are always going to be extremist in any group whether it's the Black Panthers, animal rights activists, etc.

I had no idea they were advising people to remove law enforcement support paraphernalia.

I honestly don't know and won't guess what a police officer may consider threatening behavior. I've seen videos where non whites are doing things and are shot whereas a white person does the same, is not shot, and is somewhat treated like a "buddy" or child.

It comes across as people justifying unwarranted law enforcement behavior, but when an innocent cop is killed individuals want justice NOW. Where was the justice with the pregnant Native woman, Sandra Bland, Treyvon, Freddy Gray, etc?

Law enforcement need better training, period. People need to stop making excuses, period. From my understanding the Black Panthers are taking their stance because they see law enforcement treating the black community unjustly(killings, arrest,etc).

Where's the public upset for that? Maybe it's just a culture/ideal clash because I am part of the minority who is often targeted, and *some* of you are not. You wouldn't understand the depth of the problem because the problem doesn't directly effect you.

I'm a Minority. I grew up in the gang culture. I know how ppl act. But I also have Leos and Military in my family so I know what they see. I WAS inside look out. Not outside looking in and think I know whats going on because I have the same skin color. I knew Black Panthers. I new Neo Nazis, Latin Kings, Ms13...Alot of ppl werent bad. But just a situation in live they were brought up in. Especially in the 80's with so many less opportunity and jobs. Theres bad Cops. But far more bad ppl. And if you deal with it everyday it may change the way you act. No excuse for bad Cops.But attitude get you far. If a Cop tell u to lay down.You lay down. Its the law. If they are righ or wrong you must comply. If you dont then things may get taken the wrong way. Still bad Cops are bad but a good Cop may go to far if you dont comply. In the opinion for their safety

OwnedByJezebel 09-05-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4589316)
What does "blue painters tape" mean, what is that for? What is the 100 club? #clueless



Have you ever done any house painting? I did a lot of faux finishes in my current home and blue painter's tape is a must. You put it around molding and trim where you want a straight line / edges. When the paint is dry it comes up very easily and leaves no residue. 3M US: ScotchBlue? Painter's Tape

What people are doing by putting a strip across their back window is showing support for law enforcement. It's the "thin blue line" of law enforcement, because they are what separates a civilized society from anarchy. Police academies are already having trouble recruiting while others are retiring because who wants to deal with the current climate and the possibility that someone wants to execute you just because you are wearing a uniform.

For those that didn't see Deputy Goforth's funeral service, his best friend, Roland (an HPD cop who had been his best friend since 4th grade) told many stories. As adults, they lived in different parts of town and it just so happened that Goforth patrolled Rolands neighborhood and Roland was assigned to patrol Roland's neighborhood. So they looked out for each other.

There was a young man in Roland's neighborhood that Goforth had arrested for stealing a car. When he found out about Goforth's murder he was very upset and told Roland that Goforth was his favorite cop. One day the young man took out his cell phone camera and started taking a video of Goforth in his patrol vehicle "look what we have here, my favorite cop!" Goforth pics up his cell phone and starts to video the guy saying "a car thief, he brakes into houses." Another time Goforth walked up to the young man while he was in his car and they had another "mutual conversation on video." That young man put together a short video to honor Deputy Goforth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT66KLXBYTY


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