Cat food question, anyone else concerned? Just wondering what others thoughts are here and if they are concerned. While I've never fully trusted Diamond - I didn't realize Canidae had them making their food, or I would have made other choices. I've fed Felidae (cat food brand by Canidae) ever since proctor and gamble bought out Innova (I use to feed Innova and/or Evo depending on the cat), and every other high end food (Acana, Orijen, Blue, Fromm, Evangers, and I'm sure others I'm forgetting at the moment), where just to rich for my kitties, especially my now 19 year old. In the past 6 months I've noticed my cats would vomit when I'd open a new bag and had to start mixing it with TOTW, and they've done great with that. Right now only dog foods are being recalled, but I'm very concerned! Is anyone else worried about their cat food? Now that I see Canidae products and TOTW on the recall list I'm worried it's only a matter of time before their cat foods start getting recalled, too! |
Have you tried Honest Kitchen- No recalls- At least not that I could find. I can't keep Tallulah (cat) out of the dog bowls when I give it to them. Have your tried different Blue Buffalo formulas? Mine eat the Indoor Health. It took me years to find on that agreed with Mika- Afraid to ever switch her. She is a little nutty but got to love her. They do have mature and grain free varieties too. Have you tried all 4 of the FROMM? I personally would not mess with the 19 year old cats diet. If she is doing well on it let it be unless made in the SC plant then I would try and order online from someplace else to make sure it is not from that plant- Just my opinion. |
My 19 year old is obviously my biggest concern since at her age she'll be more prone to getting sick or going into renal failure if I get a bad bag of food just because of her age - she's very healthy (actually - probably the healthiest cat in the house!), but I am super careful about her diet because she is so old. But she won't eat near the other cats anyway - so it's easy to leave her diet alone and switch the others. I have tried 3 of the 4 Fromm foods, none went well :(. I love the ingredients and quality - just didn't do well with my cats. Absolutely positively will NOT feed Blue. Seen far to many quality control problems with it - I tried it ONCE, and while my vet and I can't prove it was the food - within a week one of my cats was in 24/7 ICU care at a specialty hospital extremely ill (never did get a proper diagnosis even after thousands of dollars in diagnostics and hospitalization - we put him on grain free wet food only and slowly he recovered), and another crashed really suddenly and didn't make it. My vet said he'd seen a few cats on Blue with similar symptoms and sudden onset illness of various degree. Blue failed to even acknowledge it was possible despite what the vet told me - and several vets I've mentioned my ordeal to since have confirmed in their practices! It crushed me to loose one of my babies like that - and with Blue never admitting it could be a possibility they lost any sliver of trust I had in them. Oddly enough when my Aiyana got really sick right before she was diagnosed with Addisons - the very first thing the internal medicine specialist (this was before the incident with my cats) asked me is if I ever fed Blue to her. I should have taken the hint there and stayed FAR away from it! I did for the dogs but for whatever stupid reason I tried it with my cats and firmly believe it not only cost me thousands in vet bills, but one of my sweet Oogie's life! |
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That is not good at all. Now you have me worried :( What about Honest Kitchen? |
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I would imagine due to her age raw would be out right? |
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The 5 Sphynx are less picky - I have tried raw with them, my one that got so sick from Blue can't handle it. The rest - again, even with a slow intro and mixing very gradually with canned food - only 1 would eat it (I have 6 cats). And his vote don't count LOL. He'd probably eat rocks if I offered them! |
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That last one looks interesting, not thrilled about potato so high on the ingredient list, and a bit concerned the supplements may cause issues with my very sensitive cats, and it isn't letting me continue without them. Wish they'd send me free samples to even know if my cats would eat it! May order the small sample bag and give it a shot - I do like it's ordered and delivered at no extra cost to my house, so it doesn't matter if nobody here carries it! Have to see if I can find out anything good or bad about that company. Thanks for the idea! |
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Would you feed canned only? There are some canned cat food but they don't make kibbles Petropics - Tiki Cat, Tiki Dog, Tiki Bird, Tiki FurBalls - For the Pets We Love Kibble FirstMate - pet foods Halo, Purely for Pets – Natural Cat Food | halopets.com Holistic All Natural Pet Food - Happy Tails TLC Pet Food - FREE SHIPPING - TLC Whole Life Natural Pet Food |
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The biggest objection I have to canned only, is when I've tried it before, I had alot of problems with looser stools (even after several weeks on it), very smelly stool, and anal gland problems. A couple of them also just couldn't seem to manage weight well without the dry food, and got kind of skinny with wet food alone. I find my cats do better if they get some dry as well. I've tried Tiki Cat, it's great food but my cats don't like the texture of it. It's a more "homestyle" food. Had the same problem with Weruva and a couple other really good brands of wet food. Just checked the others - Firstmate isn't available here, looks like Happy Tails is only available in Canada, the TLC food looks VERY high grain, and I have one cat that doesn't tolerate anything with Rosemary in it - At $50/bag, I'm really not impressed by the ingredients, especially with the cost of the food! I also can't find any information on who makes it, or if they make it themself. I've tried Halo before - Won't feed it because it's owner is a huge supporter of PETA. Don't take me wrong, I'm all for ethical treatment of animals, but won't knowingly support extremest groups, and by feeding Halo, I feel that's exactly what I'm doing. The cause as many problems as they solve - Turning loose caged animals, killing those they pick up, I won't support any organization that thinks those are good ideas! |
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I feed dry with wet as a treat. It sounds like you need a kitty intervention. I give up. At least for now ;) |
I feed Iaams and friskies may not be the best as far as ingredients but no recalls. It is always what I feed my cats for over 20 yrs now |
Dolly - Male (long story) - Little Friskies Kibble and 9lives canned - indoor cat, lived to be 18 years old. Miss Kitty - female - Little Friskies Kibble and 9lives canned - indoor cat, lived to be 19+ years old. Brady - female - Little Friskies Kibble and 9live canned - indoor cat, lived to be 19+ years old (died right after Miss Kitty of a broken heart :() Gia - female - Little Friskies Kibble and little friskies canned - indoor cat, lived to 18 years old. Not once, after being spayed and declawed as kittens, did these cats ever have to go to the vet for any reason other than shots. All died natural deaths. Theres a reason their food is most popular and I would say its because they have been around a looooooonggggggg time and I don't know why, looking at their ingredients...but their food is good for most, not all, cats. |
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:thumbup: agree.. |
Honestly - I've seriously considered going the route of my mom and going to Cat Chow and Friskies wet LOL Old Sophie (19) will only eat Friskies or Fancy Feast wet foods, so I was justifying it by staying on better dry food with her (she won't eat much canned, maybe 1/2 a Friskies can or a whole fancy feast can a day if I'm lucky!). I have yet to find any other brand of canned food she'll even tough. At 19, I figure what the heck, she lived this long, if that's what she wants, I don't care anymore! I try to be more careful with the Sphynx because they are so prone to heart problems and nutritional problems, but you know, I'm about ready to try the Iams/Friskies route and see how they do! It seems like the harder I try to keep them on really high quality foods, the more recalls are happening and the more issues they have with it! My mom has fed Purina Cat Chow for years and years, and have had several cats live into the 20s and never had to take them into the vet for anything other then routine things. |
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I like the look of Science Diet's Ideal Balance. They have a grain free option as well. Ideal Balance Cat and Dog Foods ? Analysis & Comparison of Best Cat and Dog Foods | Hill?s |
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Board certified nutritionists I want to know where they got their education - often again it's mainly sponsored by the big veterinary pet food companies and there's little real life experience to back it up. But as I've said many times - everyone should do their own research and decide who and where to get their information from when making decisions about food or anything else. |
Would listen to a vet nutritionist over a vet tech any day....as for their educational background...many are ivy league educated! |
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Just thought I would post the credentials of one of the vet nutrionists that I have used. I opted to use a different one recently for my Cookie because she is local. Dr. John E. Bauer, Ph.D., D.V.M., Dipl. ACVN | Peer Scientists Committee | Organizational Structure | About Us | International Omega-3 Learning and Education Consortium for Health and Medicine John E. Bauer, Ph.D., D.V.M., Dipl. ACVN is Professor of Small Animal Clinical Sciences and holder of the Mark L. Morris Professorship of Clinical Nutrition in the College of Veterinary Medicine at Texas A&M University. He is a past Chair and current member of the Intercollegiate Graduate Faculty of Nutrition at Texas A&M. Bauer's areas of specialization are lipid biochemistry, disorders of lipid metabolism, and comparative biomedicine and nutrition. His studies have included lipoprotein and fatty acid metabolism of domestic and exotic animals as well as animal models of hypercholesterolemia and atherogenesis of humans. Dr. Bauer was appointed to the Committee on Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats for the National Academy of Sciences, National Research Council which recently published "Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats". Dr. Bauer received his his B.S. in Chemistry with high distinction from the University of Kentucky. His D.V.M. as well as his M.S. and Ph.D. in nutritional sciences are from the University of Illinois. He is a charter Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Nutrition, an American Veterinary Medical Association recognized specialty organization. |
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