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yorkietalkjilly 05-02-2011 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520910)
The President wouldn't have had the power to decide where his trial would be held. He is not above International Law. Remember, it was our liberal President that gave the order to shoot him.
He didn't dare not give that order.

roseylovestosho 05-02-2011 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3520916)
He didn't dare not give that order.
That's what I'm trying to emphasize. No President whether Liberal or Conservative would have let this go to trial.

Ringo1 05-02-2011 07:37 AM
5/1/11 - Bin Laden dead ~ Courtesy of the RED WHITE and BLUE!!!!

I, for one, am NOT sorry to see him dead. He deserved to die much sooner than he did. Any trial would have been a circus and he's just not worth the taxpayers money if it came to that.

jencar98 05-02-2011 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520910)
The President wouldn't have had the power to decide where his trial would be held. He is not above International Law. Remember, it was our liberal President that gave the order to shoot him.
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520920)
That's what I'm trying to emphasize. No President whether Liberal or Conservative would have let this go to trial.
International law would not take precedence over U.S. law in this case. Many Al-Qaeda operatives have been taken into custody and will be eventually tried on U.S. soil. It would be the Justice Dept. (Eric Holder) that made the determination of where to hold a trial, although I'm sure at the direction of the President.

But...you're so very right.....political affiliation wasn't a consideration, it wouldn't have mattered who was President, the goal was to kill not capture.

chattiesmom 05-02-2011 08:03 AM
This may sound gruesome, but I do wish that they had taken pictures - to lay aside all doubt.

roseylovestosho 05-02-2011 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3520964)
International law would not take precedence over U.S. law in this case. Many Al-Qaeda operatives have been taken into custody and will be eventually tried on U.S. soil. It would be the Justice Dept. (Eric Holder) that made the determination of where to hold a trial, although I'm sure at the direction of the President.

But...you're so very right.....political affiliation wasn't a consideration, it wouldn't have mattered who was President, the goal was to kill not capture.
Wow. Thank you for correcting my flawed statement. I completely forgot that the Geneva convention only applies to lawful combatants (i.e., not terrorists)...Embarassing...

roseylovestosho 05-02-2011 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3520981)
This may sound gruesome, but I do wish that they had taken pictures - to lay aside all doubt.
I'm not sure about the pictures...but I know that DNA analysis was done. Here's the article if you're interested in reading further

Osama Bin Laden Death Confirmed By DNA Testing: Reports

chattiesmom 05-02-2011 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520985)
I'm not sure about the pictures...but I know that DNA analysis was done. Here's the article if you're interested in reading further

Osama Bin Laden Death Confirmed By DNA Testing: Reports

Thank you for the link. I read the story about the DNA testing, but I have always been a great believer in seeing is believing. Oh, I know that pics can be faked, but I do believe that the American public (those that wanted to view) had a right to see this monster after his murdering heart stopped beating.

shodanusmc 05-02-2011 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520910)
The President wouldn't have had the power to decide where his trial would be held. He is not above International Law. Remember, it was our liberal President that gave the order to shoot him.

You are giving the street organizer from Chicago far more credit than he is due. Remember who has been skirting around Gitmo, and releasing many that are now back out on the line setting off Explosives killing Americans. This has been going on as far as tracking well before Barry became president.

Maximo 05-02-2011 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3520982)
Wow. Thank you for correcting my flawed statement. I completely forgot that the Geneva convention only applies to lawful combatants (i.e., not terrorists)...Embarassing...
Don't be embarrassed...these are very complicated, hotly debated topics. There are many different views nationally and internationally about the proper, legal way to handle combatants of any kind. Not everyone agrees on what constitutes a terrorist or if there should be any classification of combatants at all.

The political and legal wrangling are why Gitmo was not closed and not all of the detainees were moved to US soil for trial.

chachi 05-02-2011 08:46 AM
I think its a great day for Americans I just wish they wouldnt show people on tv celebrating it because i believe it will incite the terrorists. I just remember after 9/11 where they showed the pakistan people celebrating what had happened to us. I know its not the same because hes a terrorist but still it seems we should be handling this a little more delicately

jencar98 05-02-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3520981)
This may sound gruesome, but I do wish that they had taken pictures - to lay aside all doubt.
Cindy....I would be willing to bet my bottom dollar...there are pictures. It may take pictures awhile to surface, but you know they exist. I do hope within my lifetime all of the details and documents about this operation are declassified. I don't need to see pictures to believe but would find it fascinating to read exactly how this was pulled off, also the thoughts of those directly involved.

Did you see the video of the compound immediately after the attack? This would have to be military video, as I'm sure no reporter was embedded with this stealth operation. And, you know if there is a video of the compound, they have video of Osama with the bullet holes to his head. I did hear the President was able to view/hear real-time video and audio reports.

Baroness 05-02-2011 08:49 AM
Was wondering yesterday early evening why the threat level on all posts went higher. Could find no reason for it, no mil personnel were briefed, now I know. They killed that maniac and now the repercussions will come. OBL was but one of the group, Zawahiri is due to take his spot, and he is just as much of an SOB as OBL was. Praying that they finally change the rules of engagement in theater to benefit our side and let our military finish this swiftly and painfully for Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Not holding my breath on the ROE change though...Obama doesn't want the USA to be mean. :rolleyes:

Sookie 05-02-2011 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3520981)
This may sound gruesome, but I do wish that they had taken pictures - to lay aside all doubt.
There is a picture. I just heard it on the news but they aren't sure whether they should release it or not. I want to see it too.

chachi 05-02-2011 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sookie (Post 3521036)
There is a picture. I just heard it on the news but they aren't sure whether they should release it or not. I want to see it too.
I hope they dont. We should just be happy knowing hes dead why show pictures. We as Americans are above that


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