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manolos mom 04-11-2010 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3080117)
I'm not sure where you were raised, but being bred, born and raised in the south by southerners youngsters were taught to respect their elders - no exceptions.

I honestly believe that the "Steel" in Steel Magnolia referred to the color of their hair - Steel Blue - earned with age. Funny thing isn't Steel Blue what we would expect to see in a properly coated Yorkie. Anyway, those Steel Magnolias had grown up, had been taught to respect their elders, and as they aged they had "earned" the respect of the youngsters.

And yes, those Steel Magnolias has earned the right to speak their mind and get their point across, tell you where to go and how to get there, smiling all the while and having you turn thank them for the sage advice.


You forgot, they never let you see them sweat, they "Glisten".

BellaBlue82 04-11-2010 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3079938)
I had to say something again :rolleyes:

I have a totally embarassing post count.

I keep seeing the word ELITE being used - people being slammed for taking time to post to others and yes - correcting them sometimes - (I usually try to stay clear of that stuff cause I know others will do it)

Actually I'd rather joke around then be serious - unless it's called for then I will be....BUT......

I don't feel elite at ALL :(

why is that ?

I'm crushed.

Can I get some love here ? I promise I won't slam you for doing it (nor will I think you're gay) :D
Lol you're one of my favorites on here, so I'm definitely sending love your way! As far as your post count, I'm so jealous and working to catch up to you (it might take me 4 more years:rolleyes:)!

To the OP, I agree with most of the others on here that whatever you post (I haven't gone and searched for "the thread" that seems to be under discussion) you have to realize that people are going to respond to it in their own way. You have to have thick skin on this site. Just as there are many different personalities of friends, neighbors, and co-workers, there are MANY different personalities on this site. So many newbies get on here and ask for advice, and then run scared because others responded and told them what they really think (now granted, some members are more harsh than others, but that just comes with the territory!). Bottom line you're right on one thing, we're all here for the love of yorkies and we love to talk about them. If you feel you were mistreated in some way just roll with it, we live to fight another day. By the way, welcome to YT! There are many wonderful people on here with scads of information. :)

chattiesmom 04-11-2010 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3080121)
I have to agree and would like to add that it is not only the breeders but also members like myself that volunteer with rescue. We are passionate and yes we have voice out dislike for some of the things that are just wrong BUT that is because we are left to pick up the pieces.

Let's put it this way, if you were always left to clean up someone else's mess wouldn't you eventually become aggravated and speak up? In rescue we see the worst of the worst when it comes to irresponsible breeding AND ownership. We look in awe at the beautiful well bred Yorkie while tending to the sick poorly bred ones in our lives while others die in shelters and mills. Do we turn a blind eye or speak up? I personally chose to speak up for what I see as wrong and many times after I do along comes the backlash but I still stand strong behind my moral compass. Is that such a bad trait? :(


I should have encomapssed the Rescue Angels, the wonderfully experienced pet owners, exhibitors, etc. in my post.

The following is a generalized statement encompassing every single YT member - Speaking up is never the problem - it's how we phrase our replies that can be offensive. If we take the time to carefully phrase our replies in a way that isn't degrading to those who will be reading them, we are a lot more likely to get a positive result. Have you ever noticed that it's a lot easier to train a dog with a soft kind voice and a treat than with a harsh word and a jerk on the leash?

chattiesmom 04-11-2010 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 3080129)
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You forgot, they never let you see them sweat, they "Glisten".
Thank you for bringing that up -- heck I must not quite be a true Steel Magnolia yet despite my hair color, 'cause unfortunately I "sweat like a stuck pig". I'm going to have to work on that "Glistening" thing.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3080148)
Thank you for bringing that up -- heck I must not quite be a true Steel Magnolia yet despite my hair color, 'cause unfortunately I "sweat like a stuck pig". I'm going to have to work on that "Glistening" thing.

So do I.....

I was born and raised in Southern California, but lived in Texas for about 15 years......very different culture. However, being raised in the fifties in Southern California, it was different then. Family unit, manners, etc were still alive and well. There was certain rules on what was right and what was wrong. And by gosh you followed them, because you were sure your parents had eyes in the back of their heads....

Woogie Man 04-11-2010 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3080148)
I'm going to have to work on that "Glistening" thing.
(in my best Scarlett O'hara voice)...Why....you just need a little mo shuga in yo tea, Sweetie! :D

And, no, I'm not poking fun at the South. Heck, if I was any more Southern, I'd be a fish!! :p

tammy8833 04-11-2010 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080185)
So do I.....

I was born and raised in Southern California, but lived in Texas for about 15 years......very different culture. However, being raised in the fifties in Southern California, it was different then. Family unit, manners, etc were still alive and well. There was certain rules on what was right and what was wrong. And by gosh you followed them, because you were sure your parents had eyes in the back of their heads....

im not a 50s girl but i so wish i was living among a society that still went by those guidelines..i always told my moma i was born late..

my parents DID have eyes in the back of their heads..they never missed anything..LOL

chattiesmom 04-11-2010 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080185)
So do I.....

I was born and raised in Southern California, but lived in Texas for about 15 years......very different culture. However, being raised in the fifties in Southern California, it was different then. Family unit, manners, etc were still alive and well. There was certain rules on what was right and what was wrong. And by gosh you followed them, because you were sure your parents had eyes in the back of their heads....
LOL I think we are on the same page about this. I don't know about you but I had an entire neighborhood full of "parents" with eyes in the back of their heads. You couldn't get away with much in those days. Moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas sat on their front porch in the evenings and watched the neighborhood kids. If one parent saw you doing something wrong, they would "scold you", send you home where your mom and dad would be waiting with a hickory 'cause they had gotten a phone call.

Those were the good ole days.

Woogie Man 04-11-2010 10:16 AM
LOL, y'all sound like you came from my neighborhood. It was just like that. And....you had better be in earshot if Mama hollered and you'd better be home by the time the street lights came on.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3080210)
LOL, y'all sound like you came from my neighborhood. It was just like that. And....you had better be in earshot if Mama hollered and you'd better be home by the time the street lights came on.
Now Mississippi is one of my favorite Southern states....I love Natchez....My other favorite Southern state is LA....although, New Orleans a lovely place to visit....to me the devil is alive and well there.

miabellaamoure 04-11-2010 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080085)
The true definition is "Steel Magnolia". These women know how to get their point across, tell you to !@!@ @!@! and you turn around and say thank you.
Thank you...;)

Maximo 04-11-2010 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3080197)
LOL I think we are on the same page about this. I don't know about you but I had an entire neighborhood full of "parents" with eyes in the back of their heads. You couldn't get away with much in those days. Moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas sat on their front porch in the evenings and watched the neighborhood kids. If one parent saw you doing something wrong, they would "scold you", send you home where your mom and dad would be waiting with a hickory 'cause they had gotten a phone call.

Those were the good ole days.
Things have certainly changed. In my neighborhood, many of the parents are as bad as the kids. Some of the parents actively encourage or participate in bad behavior.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3080219)
Thank you...;)
Now are you telling me I fall into that wonderful classification of women that I so admire???? If so, what a wonderful compliment. I guess living in Texas, I learned from the best of them. As a matter of fact my mentor/breeder/adopted mother is the queen of "Steel Magnolias". It took me a while to read through the lines and realize she was telling me I was full of $@%@.....

miabellaamoure 04-11-2010 10:33 AM
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im not a 50s girl but i so wish i was living among a society that still went by those guidelines..i always told my moma i was born late..

my parents DID have eyes in the back of their heads..they never missed anything..LOL
And I actually thought my Mom's car had eyes in the back of those tail lights, too! Especially when she'd be out cruising the streets looking for us kids at the park hiding out on summer nights cuz we didn't want to come in while it was still light out...:eek:

miabellaamoure 04-11-2010 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080233)
Now are you telling me I fall into that wonderful classification of women that I so admire???? If so, what a wonderful compliment. I guess living in Texas, I learned from the best of them. As a matter of fact my mentor/breeder/adopted mother is the queen of "Steel Magnolias". It took me a while to read through the lines and realize she was telling me I was full of $@%@.....
I certainly am...and I value your posts more than you probably know, too!;)

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3080239)
I certainly am...and I value your posts more than you probably know, too!;)
Thank you and my mentor thanks you, she'll be glad to know all those tongue lashings paid off.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3080238)
And I actually thought my Mom's car had eyes in the back of those tail lights, too! Especially when she'd be out cruising the streets looking for us kids at the park hiding out on summer nights cuz we didn't want to come in while it was still light out...:eek:
I remember as a teenager and already driving. I was told by my parents that I wasn't allowed at Vandie Kamps Drive-In.....Well, I decided one evening, that there was no way my parents would find out. After all we lived in Whittier, Vandie Kamps was in Highland Park....about 30 miles away. Guess what, my father had a young co-worker that had been at Vandie Kamps on Friday night.....so, when Monday evening came around, my father walked through the door, mad as a hornet. And yes, I got the strap, and yes I was on restriction for the rest of the summer....Never again did I ever disobey.

Heck! I was engaged and still had a curfew of midnight and had to adhere to it till the night before I got married.

Woogie Man 04-11-2010 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080217)
Now Mississippi is one of my favorite Southern states....I love Natchez....My other favorite Southern state is LA....although, New Orleans a lovely place to visit....to me the devil is alive and well there.
My grandma was from Natchez. My ex and I spent our wedding night there, on our way to...where else?....Hot Springs, Arkansas!:p After over-nighting in Natchez, we got caught up visiting an old plantation house and a huge old cemetery there.

Now, New Orleans is its own place. I've spent many memorable days and nights there and actually remember most of them. Love taking the streetcar down to Audubon Park. Also, lots of history in N.O.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3080262)
My grandma was from Natchez. My ex and I spent our wedding night there, on our way to...where else?....Hot Springs, Arkansas!:p After over-nighting in Natchez, we got caught up visiting an old plantation house and a huge old cemetery there.

Now, New Orleans is its own place. I've spent many memorable days and nights there and actually remember most of them. Love taking the streetcar down to Audubon Park. Also, lots of history in N.O.
I adore Natchez. The untouched Plantations.....to be the only city in the South that was left untouched during the civil war, especially since it stands on the banks of the Mississippi. Are you speaking of the National Cemetery? The absolute history of visiting Civil War gravesites, left me in awe.

I visited New Orleans during Mardi Gras; now nothing shocks me, but boy did I receive an education, not sure it was one I wanted to learn.

Woogie Man 04-11-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3080273)
I adore Natchez. The untouched Plantations.....to be the only city in the South that was left untouched during the civil war, especially since it stands on the banks of the Mississippi. Are you speaking of the National Cemetery? The absolute history of visiting Civil War gravesites, left me in awe.

I visited New Orleans during Mardi Gras; now nothing shocks me, but boy did I receive an education, not sure it was one I wanted to learn.
No, this was a private cemetary. It was adjacent to the plantation house. I remember two particular graves there..... John and Mary Steele. They had died in the 1800's and both gravestones had inscriptions professing the love they had for each other. The gravestones had tilted in towards each other over time....almost touching. I found it very moving at the time and snapped a pic of it.

My brother is involved with a group that researches unmarked Confederate graves and has had good luck in getting stones placed on quite a few of them. In 2006, through his and others research, we were able to have stones dedicated to 4 of my uncles that lost their lives during the war. The stones were placed in a family cemetery and we had a big ceremony with SCV Honor Guards and a bugler blowing taps.

Charleston, SC is another great Old South city. I was there several years ago when they buried the crew of the Hunley in Magnolia Cemetery. Thousands attended and it was a sight to see. Very dignified and somber. It wasn't a commemoration...it was a funeral as these bodies had been lost all those years.

Mardelin 04-11-2010 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3080301)
No, this was a private cemetary. It was adjacent to the plantation house. I remember two particular graves there..... John and Mary Steele. They had died in the 1800's and both gravestones had inscriptions professing the love they had for each other. The gravestones had tilted in towards each other over time....almost touching. I found it very moving at the time and snapped a pic of it.

My brother is involved with a group that researches unmarked Confederate graves and has had good luck in getting stones placed on quite a few of them. In 2006, through his and others research, we were able to have stones dedicated to 4 of my uncles that lost their lives during the war. The stones were placed in a family cemetery and we had a big ceremony with SCV Honor Guards and a bugler blowing taps.

Charleston, SC is another great Old South city. I was there several years ago when they buried the crew of the Hunley in Magnolia Cemetery. Thousands attended and it was a sight to see. Very dignified and somber. It wasn't a commemoration...it was a funeral as these bodies had been lost all those years.
Wow! My husband is a big civil war buff, so we visited so many battle sites throughout the south.....even the most obsucre ones....I remember traveling on a backroad near Natchitoches, where I wanted to visit (where Steel Magnolia's was filmed), all of a sudden there was a small sign pointing to some small battle site.....so off we went....we spent the entire afternoon walking around and me listening to him about this and that.

Woogie Man 04-11-2010 11:41 AM
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Wow! My husband is a big civil war buff, so we visited so many battle sites throughout the south.....even the most obsucre ones....I remember traveling on a backroad near Natchitoches, where I wanted to visit (where Steel Magnolia's was filmed), all of a sudden there was a small sign pointing to some small battle site.....so off we went....we spent the entire afternoon walking around and me listening to him about this and that.
I'm not surprised about your husband as there are many buffs all over. I'm a bit of a buff, too, but my brother is heavy into the research. After the Hunley funeral, I thought that was a once in a lifetime thing. A couple of years later, however, remains were found on board the CSS Alabama, off the coast of France. There was a big funeral for that crewman in Mobile, which I also attended.

These pics are from Mobile. The Hunley funeral was much bigger but I didn't have a digital camera then so all my pics are on prints and not in my computer.

LDandPasquale 04-11-2010 11:44 AM
I grew up in a big Italian family...things were always told me directly and bluntly. Yah..maybe it wasnt in a not so nice way..but yanno what? I learned!!! I didnt need someone to hold my hand or to be coddled. I guess thats why i LOVE YT so much..it reminds me of my own family. Yes sometimes things arent said so nicely...but I'm learning an ENORMOUS amount of information just being here. And the way i see it....people are looking out for the welfare of my baby. It means they care.

Also, i never was jumped on when i was a newbie. Maybe its cause i spent sometime with my typing mouth shut and actually listened to what was being typed on the screen. I think a lot of people come on here thinking they are automatic experts cause they now own a yorkie. Just cause you have a kid, doesnt make you a good mother. It takes time and patience and sometimes you just have to listen.


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