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Nancy1999 02-13-2010 11:04 AM

"Nature is cruel but that does not mean we have to be!"
 
I urge everyone to watch the new HBO Movie: Temple Grandin. It didn't sound that good from the movie description, but I'm really glad I watched it. It's a movie that tells of a mother who refused to have her little girl institutionalized, and how important family support is. It tells of how one woman's struggle with autism and the how she lived by the words, "Different but not less."

The movie is made so well, it really held my attention. I've read about autism before but this really helps you grasp what it's like for the autistic, and why the world around them frightens them so. They think in pictures, and then connect them, and the movie does this for the viewer occasionally, so you're really able to grasp the idea.

Temple has designed over 50% of American's slaughterhouses, they are built with the purpose that the animals should not be frightened, there's no need to brutalize, if done correctly. I'm not sure anyone else could have done this, she understood what the cattle were feeling and understood the details on why they were scared, and she was able to design a system that alleviated their fears. It worked for the cattleman too, who increased profits.

Talking to her old science teacher on why she wants to build a slaughterhouse, she says:

Of course they’re going to get slaughtered, you think we’d have cattle if people didn’t eat ’em every day? They’d just be funny-looking animals in zoos. But we raise them for us. That means we owe them some respect. Nature is cruel, but we don’t have to be!”


Here's the trailer:



2girls 02-13-2010 11:11 AM

That sounds so interesting, thanks for the post.

Juliealfies mum 02-13-2010 11:24 AM

Thankyou for the post I have a real interest in Autism and have read about this woman so I will need to look out for the DVD.:thumbup:

jrsygal37 02-13-2010 12:20 PM

Thanks for the posting. I will def. have to watch it. My son is 13 and is mildly autistic. He's come so far from when he was little. And, we are so proud of him. I can't wait to watch this. Elaine

diane boden 02-13-2010 12:34 PM

thanks for the information, will look into it when it becomes available over in the uk. I have two nephews with autisum, a third who is borderline and were still waiting on results with one neice, plus my cousins son is being appraised. I guess theres some kind of faulty gene in our family, I saw a film a few years ago about a British woman and her autistic son who was greatly helped when they brought a golden retriever pup, it helped the child to connect the meaning of emotions to the words. Great film and so sad.

QuickSilver 02-13-2010 12:52 PM

Thanks for the reminder. I LOVE Temple Grandin, and own several of her books. She's fascinating.

I don't get HBO. Do you think this will be available separately for sale or anything?

jencar98 02-13-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3001865)
Thanks for the reminder. I LOVE Temple Grandin, and own several of her books. She's fascinating.

I don't get HBO. Do you think this will be available separately for sale or anything?

I believe this is the movie I posted about a few weeks back on another thread. I don't get HBO either, but will find a way to watch this. I loved her books and came to have a better understanding of the world through an animals eyes because of her.

I've also listened to her interviews on NPR a couple of times....always interesting!

Nancy1999 02-13-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by diane boden (Post 3001848)
thanks for the information, will look into it when it becomes available over in the uk. I have two nephews with autisum, a third who is borderline and were still waiting on results with one neice, plus my cousins son is being appraised. I guess theres some kind of faulty gene in our family, I saw a film a few years ago about a British woman and her autistic son who was greatly helped when they brought a golden retriever pup, it helped the child to connect the meaning of emotions to the words. Great film and so sad.

After seeing this film, I going to look at handicaps in a different way, I'm not sure it's a faulty gene; maybe it's a special gene that will enable us to understand the world more clearly!

Nancy1999 02-13-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3001865)
Thanks for the reminder. I LOVE Temple Grandin, and own several of her books. She's fascinating.

I don't get HBO. Do you think this will be available separately for sale or anything?

Yes, it sounds like it will be on netflix and dvd's. PBS will be running an edited version of the film this spring, but I wouldn't want them to cut out a second. This film educates in so many different ways. She is truly inspriing, and I would like love to learn more about her and her views.

QuickSilver 02-13-2010 03:41 PM

Amazon.com: Animals Make Us Human: Creating the...Amazon.com: Animals Make Us Human: Creating the...
That's my favorite book by her. She's written maybe half a dozen, I haven't read them all.

She also has a website, and does lectures around the country, so maybe you'll get an opportunity to see her in person.

Nancy1999 02-13-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3002023)
Amazon.com: Animals Make Us Human: Creating the Best Life for Animals (9780547248233): Temple Grandin, Catherine Johnson: Books

That's my favorite book by her. She's written maybe half a dozen, I haven't read them all.

She also has a website, and does lectures around the country, so maybe you'll get an opportunity to see her in person.

I wish there were more people like this, people who would not just say "ain't it awful," but actually come up with workable plans farmers could implement, and still make money.

Wylie's Mom 02-13-2010 07:37 PM

Temple Grandin is so fascinating! She was on CNN HLN the other night, and it was so neat. She was talking about cattle and how she developed a "hug machine".

I too would love to see humane solutions for animals...ones that would work for farmers and not cause consumers to pay through the roof.

Tall order? Maybe....but all things are possible. :)

mizzwanned 02-14-2010 03:34 PM

I want to see that, it looks very interesting. I have never heard of her before

ChantalB 02-14-2010 04:11 PM

Sound very interesting. I am going to watch it for sure.

Thanks for posting.

Woogie Man 02-14-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3002336)
Temple Grandin is so fascinating! She was on CNN HLN the other night, and it was so neat. She was talking about cattle and how she developed a "hug machine".

I too would love to see humane solutions for animals...ones that would work for farmers and not cause consumers to pay through the roof.

Tall order? Maybe....but all things are possible. :)

I wasn't going to post, since I don't know of this person and likely won't see the film. With Ann's post here, I see an opportunity to interject.

I just wanted to mention that the guy that owns Chipotle's restaurant chain only buys his meat from farmers that allow them to roam and live naturally. There was a story about him on TV a while back.

The point is, if a guy that has a chain of restaurants (800+) can do it in an economically feasible way, it should be possible for anyone to. Factory farms would disappear if we voted with our food choices, but we'd probably lose the $1.00 menu. Oh well....

On a side note, I saw an article in a magazine (think it was Rolling Stone) that said that some meat cuts that have been going into dog food are now being used for humans. Gotta wonder what's left for the dogs.....damn that dollar menu :rolleyes:.


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