Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 2589561)

although their are alot people againist petstore that carry dogs and for the most part i agree. And there are alot of ways to go about reprimanding them or trying to put a stop to them.

i dont agree with puppy mill dogs i dont believe that reputable breeders (which on this site reputable have very strick rules to it) sell to pet stores but im guessing sometimes its back yard breeders and puppy mills. although byb arent the best way to go in a lot of peoples mind they are more affordable and not as strick on selling and give a lot of good people the opportunity to own a dog that in other cases wouldnt be able to. but i think its low to attact petland when they are doing GOOD deed by SICK CHILDREN. i dont care if it gives them exposure, they are making a very sick child happy!

i have never heard anything good about petland, ever and i believe the negatives about them, but this is different. and at the same time you are attacking them you are attacking a group that a LOT of people give thanks to for saving their childrens life and helping them keep their home at the same time. i personally think this is low. you may not be attacking per say but bothering them no less with something like this is insane they have a lot more to do then discuss puppy mills and defending their efforts to making childrens LAST wish come true.

and yes i think the birthday party thing is insane but giving a family a puppy, thats sweet no matter where it came from. if it makes the child and the family happy and brightens that child life, then why disrupt it? and if they have no case of sick puppies going to the st jude children then why bother it?

go full force against the puppy millers and the petstores for purchasing the puppymillers puppy i encourage you. but please for the children leave that little area alone.

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2589579)

If the charities are of the mind that puppy mills are bad but believe the Petland propaganda, they need to be shown otherwise. Googling 'complaints about Petland' yields lots of instances. Also, the lawsuits against Petland speak volumes. And, their almost total reliance on the Hunte Corp. for their supply of puppies and the sources for them should be enough to convince almost anyone.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2589584)

Sounds like you could make a great protest letter! :D

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2589588)

Just wondering, would it be effective to let these charities know that their association with such a horrible business is being discussed on a forum that has over 46,000 members?

Originally Posted by emilyann (Post 2589575)

Why disrupt it? While it is a great thing, it is giving a horrible organization good feedback which will make people want to buy from them. I think the point is to maybe educate them so they choose a better BREEDER instead of a huge pet store that sells sick dogs from puppy mills. Basically, you're saying that just because they're putting a smile on the face of a sick child, it should just be left alone? What about the poor dogs/puppies? Do they not matter just because it's the subject of sick children? Do you not think the dogs are sick? Have you ever even seen a puppy mill video? If you have and you have a heart, I don't see how you could just push it aside because a kid has a smile on their face.

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2589588)

Just wondering, would it be effective to let these charities know that their association with such a horrible business is being discussed on a forum that has over 46,000 members?

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 2589598)

how many reputable breeders do you know that WILL give away their puppies for FREE? on a REGULAR? AKC, show quailty (which is what most reputable breeders sell) i dont think their are a lot out there. Sure some people might occassionally.

yes i have seen all the stuff on puppy mills and im not fore them. but its best to go against it from the ground up. start at the puppy mills find all of them and attack them.

YES I THINK ITS LOW TO BOTHER ST JUDE ABOUT IT

yes i know there are alot of people who will fight to their dying breath to stop puppy mills and preventing people from buying from them and i respect those peoples ambitions. But i dont respect nor agree with this topic. if you dont like it, deal with petland or the people they get the puppies from but leave st jude alone. i understand you want to educate them but they are extremely smart people they save lives every day and research to save lives every day. this is not on their agenda. and its shouldnt be.

you fight and save the world of puppy mills but dont expect them to stop want they are doing to help you, they have enough on their plates.

and i dont mean that to be mean or rude at all. if people want to stop the puppy mills please do, like i said before i encourage it and respect that. i just think bothering st jude with this is disrespectful.

i love my dogs to pieces but my children come first and its it between saving my child and stopping puppy mills, its my children first and foremost all the way.

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2589621)

Tammy 8833, while I appreciate your sentiment, I can't agree with your rationale. I would think that it's doing these groups a favor by informing them of their associations. I would hate to think that such associations might cause donations to decrease but that is likely to happen if they continue these type of affiliations that can only tarnish their image in the future. I've never personally donated to Make a Wish but have been a regular donor to St. Jude's. I don't plan on withdrawing my support but do feel they need a 'heads-up' on Petland, who are using them as pawns to enhance their corporate reputation.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2589622)

I think that already happened yesterday. If you go to the other thread about Petland Birthday parties that is were all of this started. I tried to follow a link within the Op and stumbled onto this. On the second page of that thread a former Petland owner jumps all over me for being ridiculous in my opinion. Go and take a look :rolleyes:

You know what I would really like to see happen is someone big get wind of this and make it news worthy. CNN, FOX, a good reporter who has been working on puppymills in the past. LISA LING!!!! OMG she is out ticket! Didn't she do the puppymill thing on Oprah?

Originally Posted by emilyann (Post 2589637)

I never said ANYTHING about attacking them. I said they needed to be educated, they actually have specific people who work for them to answer things like these concerns (as seen in the OP's e-mail response from them.)

I don't see how it has anything to do with "saving a child", it's more in the aspect of "saving the pups". Why would it be so bad for the Make A Wish people to take a child to a reputable breeder or rescue instead of Petland? It really isn't that hard. Also, you don't think a reputable breeder would give a dog away to a sick child? HA! You'd be surprised, they obviously have even bigger hearts than some idiot organization like Petland or they wouldn't care so much about what they're doing (IE... BREEDING THE RIGHT WAY.) It would also be a chance for them to get their name out there, right? So, what makes you think they wouldn't do it? :confused:

I appreciate your opinion too, don't think I'm coming off rude, I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from as I'm confused.

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 2589638)

i think its wrong to expect them to accept a decrease in donations because some people dont agree with what another company is doing to help st judes. Regardless of the marketing that the store gets.

its a petstore, that yes is not reputable by any means. but i hardly see it tarnishing their image. they are a extremely honorable organization and i cant for see something like this making them look bad. the big problem here is petland and the puppy mills not st jude and make a wish. someone has already stated to them what their opinions are of petland to the organizations, at this point to proceed further i believe in going forward with finding way to correct the root of the problems

petland would be the one at fault and therefore need the negative attention. my guess is if they get tons and tons of negative attention and it becomes national news, st jude would probably not bother with dealing with them anymore

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 2589644)

attack was probably the wrong word

i didnt say i didnt think that reputable breeders would give them away, i said i didnt think many would.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2589622)

I think that already happened yesterday. If you go to the other thread about Petland Birthday parties that is were all of this started. I tried to follow a link within the Op and stumbled onto this. On the second page of that thread a former Petland owner jumps all over me for being ridiculous in my opinion. Go and take a look :rolleyes:

You know what I would really like to see happen is someone big get wind of this and make it news worthy. CNN, FOX, a good reporter who has been working on puppymills in the past. LISA LING!!!! OMG she is out ticket! Didn't she do the puppymill thing on Oprah?