Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2410280)

VERY interesting. :)

I think PETA thinks there is still a great need for (in some cases) shock value - for "shocking" many folks out of their numb stance toward taking action in the betterment of animal's lives. I sometimes think PETA's agenda in many shock campaigns is *just* to get people talking. Unfortunately, many find it all SUCH a turn off - that you have to wonder - even IF people are talking, is the real message really getting through? Or, does that not perhaps matter to PETA, as long as folks are talking? I don't know.

I do know that a bajillion people couldn't care less about what happens to a chicken during its lifetime. And now, despite PETA's alienating methods, a chicken's life *is* talked about and wondered about - and we wonder if that chicken could live less cruelly. Almost all of that is bc of PETA.

I don't know if (enough) people would give 2 hoots about a chicken if it hadn't been rather thrown in their face, so they almost had to discuss it. I wish Dateline/Oprah/Primetime/etc. would do more factual stories about subjects such as this, so that maybe people could talk about it, without also having to be distracted by the delivery of the story/issue.

I don't know what the answer is, at all. I *do* think that as long as we're still euthanizing 3 Million animals a year and animal cruelty is still an issue and people still rip the fur off of living dogs, PETA still has a big role in the animal welfare community. BUT, there are many other animal welfare organizations to support if PETA is not for you. Even for me, PETA represents about 5% of what I donate annually to animals. Still, I think they play an important role in keeping animal welfare in the forefront, that it has a trickle down effect to other agencies, and they keep us talking, don't they? :rolleyes:

Believe me, I SO wish we could all spend *more* time actually talking about how to move forward w/ animal welfare...and less time discussing PETA itself, you know? But PETA causes exactly this kind of controversy - and it truly can be so distracting from the issue of animal welfare itself. Ironic, isn't it? :D

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2410303)

This cracked me up. On YT I am so pro PETA- and I am in real life too but probably not to the extent it comes across, at least financially. Every money I have ever donated to peta is gifts in my daughter's name so technically I'm not even a peta memeber.:p I am in my heart though.:D

Originally Posted by bella_mia_hairy (Post 2410555)

This is imho and some may agree and disagree. PETA has a high profile name and should use it for the good! They always coma across as being fanatical in nature. Did they ever here that you catch more bees with honey then with vinegar....
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PETA needs to use their name to focus on Puppy Mills and Shelter dogs, and not waste their time and our time on the time honored tradition of the Westminster Dog Show.

PETA put your money where your mouth is and pay for and sponsor a special on Puppy Mills and Shelter dogs that could also be aired either before or after the show on USA or Not.

Give the public a chance to be educated and educate them just don't assume we the public will take you at your words like we don't have a mind of our own!

Show the public that PETA is not just a group that only chooses to make publicity for themselves. But are actually people that ARE for the Ethical Treatment of ANIMALS!

and not just publicity whores!

Posted by: Keep The Show ON!! | January 09, 2009 at 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by bella_mia_hairy (Post 2410960)

Being a vegetarian doesn't mean you care more.:confused: If you are truely a PETA supporter and go by everything they say you wouldn't have a pure breed Yorkie let alone any other pet.

Originally Posted by veguroev (Post 2410971)

what makes you think that everybody here has a purebred yorkie including myself??
I'm not going to talk about the veg part....:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by veguroev (Post 2410929)

I promise you would be a vegetarian if you'd really care.

Originally Posted by veguroev (Post 2410929)

I wish you guys would really care about what PETA does. I promise you would be a vegetarian if you'd really care.
It's human nature to focus on the bad things rather than the good ones.
Swing by their website and check out the good things that PETA has accomplished.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2414855)

I'm sorry, but that's absurd. So those of us who aren't vegetarians.....what, don't "care?" I'm sorry, but that's just an outright insulting and inaccurate statement. :mad:

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2414956)

You know, I've no problem with anyone being a vegan/vegetarian - it's their choice - that's fine. What I Do have a problem with is that many of them seem to have a need to bash those that are not. WHY?:confused: I don't bash them for their choice and expect the same respect from them. Just as they have their reasons for not eating meat, I have my reasons for eating it, why can't they just accept that?!?

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2415137)

Well, if it makes ya feel any better, I don't eat meat (haven't for ~16 years) - but I totally support your choice to eat meat. My hubby eats meat, and I'll cook it for him and I don't feel weird about it - his eating choices are his. :)

I agree with you - I don't want to get bashed for *not* eating meat (and believe me, people like me get it all the time) - just like I don't want to be bashed for being a member of PETA.

I can never understand why some folks think that bashing, being confrontational, or downright nasty about choices is a means to an end. It isn't. It's just completely polarizing.

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2415137)

Well, if it makes ya feel any better, I don't eat meat (haven't for ~16 years) - but I totally support your choice to eat meat. My hubby eats meat, and I'll cook it for him and I don't feel weird about it - his eating choices are his. :)

I agree with you - I don't want to get bashed for *not* eating meat (and believe me, people like me get it all the time) - just like I don't want to be bashed for being a member of PETA.

I can never understand why some folks think that bashing, being confrontational, or downright nasty about choices is a means to an end. It isn't. It's just completely polarizing.