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shirlblack 09-24-2008 11:32 AM
This has to be a joke.

JCarlson2004 09-24-2008 11:36 AM
I think PETA does bring to light a lot of important issues that we would never know about otherwise (I've never been on a dairy farm or on a pig or chicken farm, so I would never know how they are treated unless someone took the time to take photos and vidoes and make the public aware of it) but I also think they go about it in a weird way.

Like I remember reading a while ago about an anti-abortion place that mailed to hundreds of random people a plastic mini baby fetus (the size it would be in your body when you abort it) and a lot of people were really upset by that. In fact, a lot of the people they mailed it to were against abortions but they still thought it was disgusting and inappropriate.

So while I think PETA really does have the animals best interest at heart, they should go about their business in a little better way and maybe if they did, people would take them more seriously. It's not good when people think your organization is crazy or full of nut jobs.

BamaFan121s 09-24-2008 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 2253147)
So while I think PETA really does have the animals best interest at heart, they should go about their business in a little better way and maybe if they did, people would take them more seriously. It's not good when people think your organization is crazy or full of nut jobs.
BINGO! As good as their intentions may be, when I know this is the same company that puts scantily clad women on at gas stations to promote being vegan and 'going green', that criticize and condem the AKC for being like the KKK, for harassing school systems, attacking people for wearing fur (which I disagree with, but still, you can't physically attack someone because they don't support the same things you do), etc etc...it really makes me question the validity of any of their claims. I'd rather support another agency that is not so radical that doesn't waste alot of $$$, effort and time in that manner.

Yorkiedaze 09-24-2008 11:50 AM
Think of all the crack heads and other malnurished shady lady's who would sell their milk. Would they test these women first and would all the testing make the ice-cream much more expensive.
If they don't want to use cow milk anymore, they should look into useing Rice Dream rice drink enriched with vitamins A,D, B12 & calcium. It comes in vanilla and chocolate and is just totally delicious. I even blend babanas and blueberry's with it. YUMMY!!!

Yorkiedaze 09-24-2008 11:51 AM
Think of all the crack heads and other malnourished shady lady's who would sell their milk. Would they test these women first and would all the testing make the ice-cream much more expensive.
If they don't want to use cow milk anymore, they should look into using Rice Dream rice drink enriched with vitamins A,D, B12 & calcium. It comes in vanilla and chocolate and is just totally delicious. I even blend bananas and blueberry's with it. YUMMY!!!

bchgirl 09-24-2008 12:02 PM
Regardless that it's absurd ...the campaign is a success...we are discussing it.

I do notice Peta targeted Ben and Jerry's....and not the National Diary Farmer's Association.

cesar49 09-24-2008 12:09 PM
Peta sucks
 
PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

An example of good money down the toilet.. all who support PETA

they suck the milk themselves..:p

celstu1 09-24-2008 12:10 PM
Wow.
Let me ask something. If humans did not consume other mammals, how long do you think it would take for the US to be a giant waste zone overrun with animals? How is animal population controlled?

What I disagree with is treating a living being harshly or hurting them for no reason, just to save money or think its funny or taking out your aggression (workers who purposely hurt the animals). These are still living animals that FEEL pain.

I think the health problems in our country come from fast food and overprocessed food. While human milk MAY have more health benefits, the stigma attached to that whole idea would put companies out of business. We, as a whole society, are used to cows milk (not ALL of us, but a majority). I know, mentality wise, I couldn't drink human milk. I am an adult, not a baby. So I wouldn't buy B&Js again. JMHO!

JCarlson2004 09-24-2008 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 2253173)
Think of all the crack heads and other malnurished shady lady's who would sell their milk. Would they test these women first and would all the testing make the ice-cream much more expensive.
If they don't want to use cow milk anymore, they should look into useing Rice Dream rice drink enriched with vitamins A,D, B12 & calcium. It comes in vanilla and chocolate and is just totally delicious. I even blend babanas and blueberry's with it. YUMMY!!!
I like rice dream and I use it. I do sometimes use skim milk but I mostly use rice dream (love the chocolate flavor!!).

JCarlson2004 09-24-2008 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2253205)
Wow.
Let me ask something. If humans did not consume other mammals, how long do you think it would take for the US to be a giant waste zone overrun with animals? How is animal population controlled?

What I disagree with is treating a living being harshly or hurting them for no reason, just to save money or think its funny or taking out your aggression (workers who purposely hurt the animals). These are still living animals that FEEL pain.

I think the health problems in our country come from fast food and overprocessed food. While human milk MAY have more health benefits, the stigma attached to that whole idea would put companies out of business. We, as a whole society, are used to cows milk (not ALL of us, but a majority). I know, mentality wise, I couldn't drink human milk. I am an adult, not a baby. So I wouldn't buy B&Js again. JMHO!
Same here -- I would not buy Ben & Jerry's if they used breast milk because just the thought of it is nasty. Drinking milk that came from some random woman's breast ... just the idea alone gives me the chills!! Yuck!

If Ben & Jerry's wants to stop using cow's milk, then they should use Rice Dream but please do not use a woman's milk!!

Like another poster said, what about crack heads and people who do drugs or have STD's or something? Are they going to do blood tests and other tests to make sure these milk donors are safe? That would be a big waste of money and I still would not feel comfortable with that.

Wylie's Mom 09-24-2008 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2253193)
Regardless that it's absurd ...the campaign is a success...we are discussing it.
Correctamundo!!! LOL - WE are agreeing DURING a PETA thread, this is too much, my friend. :D

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 2253211)
Same here -- I would not buy Ben & Jerry's if they used breast milk because just the thought of it is nasty. Drinking milk that came from some random woman's breast ... just the idea alone gives me the chills!! Yuck!
This is what I've ALWAYS found so confounding. Let me state up front, I'm not condoning we drink from each other's breasticles. But here's the thing: nature intended cow's milk for a CALF, breast milk for a HUMAN. But here people are repulsed by drinking milk MEANT for humans, but fine with drinking milk from some "random COW'S breast", which was NEVER meant for humans ever!! Ya gotta admit that's pretty funny. :p

Ya gotta admit, there is almost no greater irony.:rolleyes:

bchgirl 09-24-2008 01:04 PM
I've always pondered what would cause the first person to grab a cow's udder...to think...let's taste whatever comes out. I'm thinking it was a man.

Wylie's Mom 09-24-2008 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2253299)
I've always pondered what would cause the first person to grab a cow's utter...to think...let's taste whatever comes out. I'm thinking it was a man.
I always wondered that too and I think I read the "why/how" once and have since forgotten. Like, was a calf drinking and some dude thought maybe I'll just.....:rolleyes:

alisonJ 09-24-2008 01:15 PM
Listen, everyone. PETA gets their point across by making outlandish statements. They know that Ben and Jerry's won't use human breast milk in ice cream. Their goal was to get people to discuss the treatment of dairy cows, which they consider to be cruel. And by the looks of the discussion on this thread, they have succeeeded. I know PETA goes about their mission in ways that many consider crazy, but it works. They are very smart.

yorkiekist 09-24-2008 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2253124)
They do quite a bit- fortunately they're good multi-taskers.;)
If you're interested in how they spend their time:
PETA TV // Animal Rights TV
About PETA >> Victories

I don't know about you but they sure do get a lot more done than I do.:p
I dont agree with alot of farming ideals. But the farmer has to make some $$ for all of the hard work and efforts that it entails to have a dairy, cattle, pig or chicken farm. Not all farms threat their animals badly. Would you treat your business badly if that was your livelyhood? You cant milk a dead cow. With all of the government regulations, it is harder and harder for a farmer to make a living. Now if everyone was a vegan, there would be absolutly no need for a farm period. But that is not the case, and probably never will be. So what would be a good solution? Import ALL of our food so that the uneducated public doesnt know where their food comes from? There are not many government safty and health regulations in most countries. We import too much as it is. Or do we have fanactical organizations like Peta suggesting moronic ideas like human breast milk. Peta may have some good ideals and may have done some good things, but they are their own worst enemy and sink their own ship by all of their nut-case antics.


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