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JCarlson2004 07-29-2005 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jbarile
OK I bite.. yes you are right in saying they all suffer! but the issue at hand here is we love all animals and have different opinions! in which we respect! the right to choose what effects our heart strings! that are pulled and Im sorry but my heart breaks when domestic pets are being skinned, abused and all the other things that are done to them. some of us have not been raised on farms and raised having farm animals as a household pet and you might not have either. so I do understand your position here as you are defending all animals. and I applaud you for the defense of all animals! But leave the religion out of the discussion! this is not the proper forum to discuss your religious issues here.
very nicely said

Rex'z momma 07-29-2005 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jbarile
OK I bite.. yes you are right in saying they all suffer! but the issue at hand here is we love all animals and have different opinions! in which we respect! the right to choose what effects our heart strings! that are pulled and Im sorry but my heart breaks when domestic pets are being skinned, abused and all the other things that are done to them. some of us have not been raised on farms and raised having farm animals as a household pet and you might not have either. so I do understand your position here as you are defending all animals. and I applaud you for the defense of all animals! But leave the religion out of the discussion! this is not the proper forum to discuss your religious issues here.
sorry about talkin religion..i just got sooo angry argghhh

JCarlson2004 07-29-2005 11:50 AM
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sorry about talkin religion..i just got sooo angry argghhh
We still love you :D

Rex'z momma 07-29-2005 11:53 AM
im back in my calm place :p

jbarile 07-29-2005 11:57 AM
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sorry about talkin religion..i just got sooo angry argghhh

:rose: Rex'z momma you didn't start this! sometimes we just get sucked in :p just some confusion!! and with that starbucks I'll Have the duncun doughnut by the way!

jbarile 07-29-2005 11:59 AM
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:rose: Rex'z momma you didn't start this! sometimes we just get sucked in :p just some confusion!! and with that starbucks I'll Have the duncun doughnut by the way!


:confused: Is duncun spelled like this?

Rex'z momma 07-29-2005 12:05 PM
i think its Dunkin

Midge5353 07-29-2005 12:09 PM
I couldn't watch it. I started to, but then I saw what they did to the German Shepherd in the beginning, and I heard those agonizing cries and I quit. I just don't understand why people can be so cruel! There is so much EVIL in the world, and a lot of it is directed to our porr helpless animal friends. How could someone do that? I just don't get it!!!! :mad:

jbarile 07-29-2005 12:53 PM
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I couldn't watch it. I started to, but then I saw what they did to the German Shepherd in the beginning, and I heard those agonizing cries and I quit. I just don't understand why people can be so cruel! There is so much EVIL in the world, and a lot of it is directed to our porr helpless animal friends. How could someone do that? I just don't get it!!!! :mad:

That's as far as I got! the cries I still hear in my head! I really didn't know what I was getting myself into I thought it was a video on puppysmills!
I never in my life knew of this kind of torture was going on!

Shanatink 07-29-2005 12:59 PM
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I know this is sad but how many of you eat meat? What are you sitting on right now, a sofa made from leather? You may think this is just a bi product but cows suffer too. Also sheep,pigs,chickens and any other animals you may have on your dinner plate tonight. Just cause they're not cute and furry doesn't mean they don't have a right to life. If you eat dairy products, animals suffer. Cruelty to animals involves everyone whether people are making fur coats or producing food for your table,think about it. The best thing people can do is become Vegan, www.vegansociety.com everyone can make a difference if they really want to. :)

I am a christian and I believe(as it says in the bible :) ) that God provided us with animals for such things as food... It also says in the bible we are to take care of animals. SO I think there is a HUGE difference in killing an animal for fur for the sake of fashion and killing animal to provide food as well as using the rest of it for leather for various items such as clothing, furniture. BUt I do thingk its is horribly wrong to kill for sport, or just fur. Food is a necessatity. So is protien which is why we need meat. If you are a vegetarian, then I think that is a great choice for you. But I do not think everyone else should have to feel bad because they eat meat. There is a reason cows exist. And its not just to eat grass.

Sorry guys I dont mean to get preachy or anything. I just wanted to get that out there. :p

Ponyup 07-29-2005 01:09 PM
My 2 cents just so everyone knows how hard it is to get around using animals products. Dog food, glue, jello, & fertilizer is all made out of horses. Some of the horses used have already passed away, but some of the horses used were euthanized because no one wanted them. I just wanted to let everyone know how hard it is to be truely vegan

MeganS 07-29-2005 01:13 PM
omare-i was going to stay out but i can't help it now. yes the cows suffer but they just chop their heads off or whatever and its done. they are pulling the skin off of these dogs ALIVE!!! is it really that hard to understand??? i'm not much of a meat eater although, i do eat it. and i know they don't suffer as much. they also use the body. these animals are skinned and then thrown away.
ponyup-thats why i hate feeding my dogs everynight....... :(

MeganS 07-29-2005 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jbarile
That's as far as I got! the cries I still hear in my head! I really didn't know what I was getting myself into I thought it was a video on puppysmills!
I never in my life knew of this kind of torture was going on!
me neither. i've always stayed as far away from fur coats as i could. even fake ones. because then the rich people go oh i can afford a real one (no offense to any one on here) although, i'd rather wear a fake one than a real one for sure. i didn't watch it. but i did go to one part and i saw when they first started with the chin sking, that dog looked so sad, like he still trusted these people. i wasn't using the sound, i knew i would never stop thinking about it if i did. now i have another thing to stop!!! this kind of torture has to stop!

jbarile 07-29-2005 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MeganS
omare-i was going to stay out but i can't help it now. yes the cows suffer but they just chop their heads off or whatever and its done. they are pulling the skin off of these dogs ALIVE!!! is it really that hard to understand??? i'm not much of a meat eater although, i do eat it. and i know they don't suffer as much. they also use the body. these animals are skinned and then thrown away.
ponyup-thats why i hate feeding my dogs everynight....... :(
Oh Megan honey this is a terrible thing to watch.. I know curiosity
can get the best of us! but you handled this better than I did! you are just amazing!! :D

MeganS 07-29-2005 01:27 PM
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Oh Megan honey this is a terrible thing to watch.. I know curiosity
can get the best of us! but you handled this better than I did! you are just amazing!! :D
thanks. i didn't watch the whole thing. of course, being me i clicked on it to watch, but i only wanted to see one part, after i saw one thing i turned it off. i think i actually would have gotten sick. either that or gotten on a plane and killed one of these people. ;)


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