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Please do some reading on Gardasil first.... I know this is a controversial subject but I just want for people to just read and get educated before you give something to your daughter that may not be of any benefit to her but a danger..... When this new vaccine came out and it was directed at our little girls I was not happy and I was very suspicious, I don't believe the FDA has the publics best interests at heart anymore. There are too many drugs that have been hastily put on the market and have caused thousands of deaths before being pulled. I went looking for info. and I was right, the drug companies have all the power where the FDA is concerned.....I started looking into Garasil and the FDA and it was worse than I suspected....this is what I found in my research....Merck is the drug co. producing this drug, the clinical trials where very short and incomplete. Drug companies pay the FDA to review and approve their drugs. Drug companies can bury negative drug trials and the FDA has been caught conspiring with the drug co.'s to keep negative drug data secret from the public. This is only the tip of the corruption in the FDA.There is way too much to write about on this forum about this subject, all you have to do is google "FDA corruption" and read all about it..... My main concern was for our daughters safety and their health where this drug is concerned. I found that this drug has too many unknowns to be on the market and our daughters are at great risk of potential problems in their future. Merck has no data of the long term effects on our girls. They have no clue if they will have fertility problems, cancer, neurological problems or anything else. They have no idea how long this drug provides this supposedly immunity. There's already 11 girls who have died after receiving this shot.The National Vaccine Information Center is where reactions are reported, a journalist named Cynthia Janak went through all the documents and found this info. as of Dec 2007.....There where 6,447 reaction incidents reported ( a lot of reactions are not reported) , 71 where life threatening, 173 where hospitalized, 730 are still recovering , 93 are still disabled as of article, 77 where pregnant when given the shot, 33 suffered spontaneous abortions or fetal damage. The exposure to HPV does not cause cancer. Millions of people are exposed to this virus and our bodies natural immunity gets rid of it naturally in about two years. Sometimes it does develop into cancer. But the cancer is not from exposure of the HPV it is from persistent exposure to the virus. The shot actually increases your chances 44% of developing cancerous lesions. The important part of the story is that if we women go in for a routine pap test you can ask for a HPV test at the same time and if detected it's easily treated without the dangers of this drug. Cervical cancer has been on the decline for decades and it's one of the easiest cancers to prevent with yearly or semi-yearly testing. As far as I'm concerned Merck is using fear to use our daughters to make them and their shareholders billions of dollars. I don't know why they are wanting to vaccinate our ten year olds when cervical cancer doesn't usually show up for a couple more decades. Is Merck wanting them to come in for yearly boosters? They have no idea how long this lasts. There are way to many unknowns for a vaccine that isn't even needed with tests already in place to detect the cancer. I have a feeling this shot is going to be a medical nightmare for our girls. The parents of those 11 who have died are probably regretting their decision.The information is out there and it really needs to be investigated before our daughters pay a hefty price.....I see no benefit to give this shot just risks, risks our daughters will face.... http://www.judicialwatch.org/6428.shtml http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/janak/071211 http://www.vran.org/vaccines/hpv/hpv.htm http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html I hope this just anted to post this to give us moms the info to make an informed decision on our girls behalf and not just blindly trust the doctors..... |
Good for you to put this info out there. I think too many people just follow doctors suggestions and should really be doing the research. I sometimes wonder if all the meds people are put on aren't one of the reasons for the high cancer rate. |
Our pediatrician is against it. He said almost the same exact things as you stated. Aside from the moral issues I have with the message that the company is sending out, I have a lot of issues with the effects of the drug itself. The FDA is sorta like someone that comes out to appraise your house for refinance. They can be paid to appraise it at pretty much whatever you want it to appraise for, thats how they make their money. Then you end up upside down with a house thats worth far less than whats owed. Its hard enough to do that with a house, and just not worth it with your health. |
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Big Pharma will deliberately invent a "disease" so as to sell more drugs to vulnerable people, which explains all the drug commercials. Those ads are not for educational purposes they are for selling drugs....They will take a normal behavior and turn it into a disorder...Take shyness, they have now turned it into an anti social disorder, and it worked....They have targeted our children and now they are going after our pets....Does your dog bark to much? Give him an anti anxiety drug to calm him down and people are doing it....when will it end.... |
I dont get into much news so this comes as a shock to me but at the same time Im not surprised. Words can not express how grateful that I am that you posted this. And Im glad you said the thing about the HPV, that is very true that it typically goes away if not repeatedly exposed to that virus. The thing that really scares me is what else is out there on the market like this. What medications are really safe to take? |
I was very suspicious of this when everyone first started talking about how great it was and how it would help so many girls. My mom is a nurse and I asked her what she thought about it and she was totally against and so were a lot of her co-workers. I am 22 now so when I first started hearing about this a lot of girls I knew went and got the shot but I would never do it..Thanks for posting this information, I'm going to save it. It's so scary that you can't even really trust medical companies that are supposed to be helping people. |
omg..you are scaring me.. I've gotten the 1st of three shots...Should I just stop??? Does anyone know if it will be harmful to discontinue? I'm not sure if my doctor would answer me honestly...as I'm paying $200 per shot and they would lose $400 if I stopped. |
Ok, I guess I live in the Dark Ages- is this a Birth control shot?? I took one back in 1997-1998- I had problems- vision, bad pap test results, ect- gained 40 lbs in 3 months!!:eek: Is the new one out?? sorry, Ijust have not heard of it! |
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I am not sure you are not accurate about some of your statements....but, do not put all "big pharma" into the same hat. You just have to be older than 30 to have lived with diseases that cause people to die an early and painful death...breast cancer, authism....prostate cancer.....etc.... for instance....I remember when RA was called "crippling arthritis", and you just lived with it, painful and debilitating as it was usually people lived to their 70's....may of died of complications of this. like a broken hip, which by the way 80% of the people who break a hip ...will die....not due to the hip but to the "conplications" of a broken hip..anyway....now, with "big pharma" and the biologics, people can live and lead productive lives.....with the disease.....I know, I watched my Mom lose 30 lbs in one month, not able to get out of the bed to go to the bathroom.....all this brought on by an anti-inflammatory response that brought on a benign disease....to a raging horrific experience two years ago... Today, with the help of J&J (big pharma) she acts like a 40 year old...she goes thrifting....and shops, she is self sufficient....and gained her 30 lbs back because she can get out of the BED!!! So, my point is...you may be right about this medication, that it is a personal decision as to if you want to take it or your daughter to take it.....but, be grateful that you have that option....because believe it or not....this drug only gets approved after millions of dollars of research and SUCCESS with patients....not just to make money for the drug companies..... I for one am grateful that I live in a time that there are medications available to keep me and my family healthy and around longer.... But, then again....I have worked in "big pharma" for 18 years....and watched my brother, sister, father, mother in law, sister in law, friends pass with diseases that I hope one day will find cures for......Cancer.....this is a real disease, not one made up to make money for the drug companies...... Believe me..... Shirley |
wow i just got my last shot last month and it was the most painful shot... wow now im nervous............ i didnt even want to get this done but my doctor kept encouraging me |
I think its great that you did all this research and posted it for other moms and women to see. My daughter is 12 and at her last physical her doctor pulled out the vaccine and was preparing it...I said, she is up to date on her shots. He said oh no this is the HPV vaccine, she hasnt gotten this yet. I said and she wont be getting it! Then he began to tell me how great it is and he recommends it. He was just going to give it to her without explaining it to me:shocked7q needless to say she did not get it...they are not using my daughter as a guinea pig. |
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This is an interesting thread..I've thought about getting the vaccine before but I doubt I will be..I'm an adult and its expensive. |
OMG I HAD NO IDEA! Everyone keeps telling me to go get this shot. I even have an appt for my yearly exam next week and I was gonna have the shot done with that appointment! When I called to make the appointment they told me that I have only until I'm 25 (I think that was the age anyway) to get the shot. Very scary! |
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I got all three shots as an adult...just finished up a month or two ago, and I don't regret my decision. Breast and other female cancers are extremely prevalent in my family, and I'd rather take the risk of having the vaccine and lower my chances of cancer. If you've never been through someone close to you having cancer, you don't know. It is horrible, and I would never wish it on my worst enemy. So to each his own, but I DON'T regret my decision. |
Personally I think the vaccine is too new. My daughter is not getting it. She sees a gynecologist for her periods....the doctor discussed this vaccine with me and more than readily accepted my explanation why my daughter was not receiving this. Absolutely no arguments. In the sixties...my MIL took something for morning sickness, I can't think of the name but it caused birth defects and other health issues. Doctors and pharmacological companies are thought it was fine. FDA approved. However it was pulled from the market years ago...when it was once the correlation was determined. LOTS of women took this medication. It took years for them to realize... Btw, guardia is only effective against like 2 strains of hpv. There are more than two strains... |
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It's a good thing you were in there. Great post OP. This vaccine is extrememly dangerous. Look at all the side effects and deaths and it has only been out for a few years. There have been NO long-term studies on it. What will happen when the girls that are getting it now turn 50? How do we know it doesn't increase the risk of other cancers? We just don't. |
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In the past few years 24 drugs have been pulled from the market after causing injuries and deaths. Just Vioxx alone has injured 80,000 people and killed 1/3 of those. The drug company did know of the dangers and continued to keep it on the market. So what if they get some lawsuits they made more than they will pay out in the end. After the FDA approves a drug 1 in 5 will will have serious effect on us the comsumers. According to the American Medical Association, adverse reactions from these "well" tested drugs are the 4th leading cause of death in this country. The amount of people injured is 2 million each year. The FDA will approve a drug with questionable safety. It's done on a regular basis. I was told one to never take a drug that is newly on the market only take it if has been on the market at least 5 years. The FDA has NO authority to require follow up safety studies on drugs after they are introduced to the market. This is a serious oversight, given that many problems with drugs only appear after widespread use. Patients are widely used as guinea pigs in any new drug launch. The U.S is the only nation in the world that allows ads to consumers. It was legalized in 1998 by the FDA, following political pressure and influence from the drug companies. This resulted in a windfall in profits for the drug companies. Some drugs are marked up 300,000% over the cost of the ingredients. Did you know that more and more of our drugs are being made in China, it's cheaper for the drug companies. That is where the drug Heparin that is now in the news is made. The factories in Chine are rarely inspected, if eve,r and they don't have the same quality controls that the U.S. has in place. So it looks like we will now not only have to worry if the drug is going to have adverse effect but what did the manufacturer put in the drug. FDA approval does not in any way mean the drug is safe. When they did the clinical trials they also used aluminum in the placebo on girls. If you do some reading on aluminum this was a dangerous thing to do also. http://www.medicalaccountability.net..._gardasil.html If some of the fact are off a bit isn't the point the point is this is a very questionable drug to be giving to our children I'm not saying ALL drugs are bad, it's that the push to put drugs on the market long before they are ready that is the problem....read, read, read before you trust what the drug companies and doctors are telling you....that's all this post was meant to do..... |
wow good post! My doctor suggested this to me last year as I am still in the recommended age bracket, but I declined b/c I just didn't know enough about it and it was so new - I'm glad I did! Thanks for the info and doing all the right research. |
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There are many drugs, of course, on the market today that are life saving. People could not live without them, this is true. But this specific drug has not been out that long and has not been tested enough. I have read only negative things about it. The pharmacutical companies and the FDA are two companies I would not trust as far as I could throw them! They are in it together and it's all about money to them. They lie to us daily. I would never put that drug into my daughters. Instead of coming up with money making drugs our government should be looking into why cancer is just spreading more rapidly throughout our country. Where is it all coming from. It wasn't rampid 50yrs ago. Gives you something to think about. What has happened in the last 50yrs that changed things? Pesticides, additives to tobacco to get you hooked, pollution in our waters etc. Nothing seems to be safe anymore. Instead of coming out with preventives, that are not safe, do more to find the source. It's all about $$$$. |
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We are living longer but the quality of our lives is worse than a decade ago....I see people in their 40's with illnesses and diseases that you wouldn't expect to see until old age, if at all......People just accept it as a part of life and it just isn't so.We should not be this sick as a society. I try and find sources that are looking out for the consumer rights when looking for info, there is plenty of it out there. I never read or trust the info printed by the manufacturer or articles printed in the newspaper. I don't expect people to just believe what I write that is why I stress.... read, read, read.... for yourselves and get all the info you can, then decide with an educated mind, don't be influenced by tv ads and go by assumptions that "all is good or else it wouldn't be on the market", that is not the case...... |
You might be interested in the article below. We do need to be VERY careful and not just do things because someone says so. And the statistics at the top of this article are from the AMA (can't go too much higher than that) and were for hospitalized patients only. Recreational Drugs FAR Less Likely to Kill You than Prescribed Drugs! * By Christopher Kent, D.C., J.D. Mercola.com, January 15, 2008 Straight to the Source Recreational drugs, including cocaine and heroin, are responsible for an estimated 10,000-20,000 American deaths per year [1,2]. While this represents a serious public health problem, it is a "smokescreen" for America's real drug problem. America's "war on drugs" is directed at the wrong enemy. It is obvious that interdiction, stiff mandatory sentences, and more vigorous enforcement of drug laws have failed. The reason is simple. Cause and effect have been reversed. The desire to solve problems by taking drugs is a product of our culture. When a child is taught by loving parents that the appropriate response to pain or discomfort is taking a pill, it is obvious that such a child, when faced with the challenges of adolescence, will seek comfort by taking drugs. Drugs are Dangerous Whether Pushed or Prescribed While approximately 10,000 per year die from the effects of illegal drugs, an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) reported that an estimated 106,000 hospitalized patients die each year from drugs which, by medical standards, are properly prescribed and properly administered. More than two million suffer serious side effects. [3] An article in Newsweek [4] put this into perspective. Adverse drug reactions, from "properly" prescribed drugs, are the fourth leading cause of death in the United States. According to this article, only heart disease, cancer, and stroke kill more Americans than drugs prescribed by medical doctors. Reactions to prescription drugs kill more than twice as many Americans as HIV/AIDS or suicide. Fewer die from accidents or diabetes than adverse drug reactions. It is important to point out the limitations of this study. It did not include outpatients, cases of malpractice, or instances where the drugs were not taken as directed. According to another AMA publication, drug related "problems" kill as many as 198,815 people, put 8.8 million in hospitals, and account for up to 28% of hospital admissions. [5] If these figures are accurate, only cancer and heart disease kill more patients than drugs. Has the situation improved since the publication of this information? Hardly. Null [6] et al have published the most comprehensive and well-documented study I have seen of deaths associated with medical practice. In this report, their research revealed some shocking facts. The findings are summarized in the abstract: "A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million. The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251." Drugs Number One Killer The authors conclude: "When the number one killer in a society is the healthcare system, then, that system has no excuse except to address its own urgent shortcomings. It's a failed system in need of immediate attention. What we have outlined in this paper are insupportable aspects of our contemporary medical system that need to be changed -- beginning at its very foundations." A recent article in Archives of Internal Medicine [7] stated that in the seven year period from 1998 through 2005, reported serious adverse drug events increased 2.6-fold, and fatal adverse drug events increased 2.7-fold. The authors noted that reported serious events increased 4 times faster than the total number of outpatient prescriptions during the period. Another study concluded that the majority (86%) of the adverse drug reactions for which patients were admitted to a medical intensive care unit were preventable. [8] One proposed solution to the illegal drug problem was encouraging potential users to ignore peer pressure and "just say no." Interestingly, this strategy is not being recommended for prescription drugs. Bruce Pomeranz, MD , one of the authors of the JAMA paper, said he is not warning people to stay away from drugs. "That would be a terrible message," he said. Lucian Leape, MD, of the Harvard School of Public Health said, "When you realize how many drugs we use, maybe those numbers aren't so bad after all." [4] Does that mean that the number of deaths due to illegal drugs, suicide, HIV/AIDS, diabetes, accidents, and drunk driving "aren't so bad" either? Does it mean that we shouldn't discourage drunk driving or unsafe sex? The folly of such double standards should be obvious to all. It is time to address the real drug problem -- the cultural notion that the first solution to seek for relief of life's problems is a drug. That's the drug culture we need to address. References 1. "Drug deaths." Globe & Mail (Canada). February 27, 1998. 2. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. CDC. 2007;56(05):93-96. 3. Lazarou J, Pomeranz BH, Corey PN: "Incidence of adverse drug reactions in hospitalized patients." JAMA 1998;279:1200. 4. Kalb C: "When drugs do harm." Newsweek. April 27, 1998. Page 61. 5. "Reaction." American Medical News. January 15, 1996. Page 11. 6. 1. Null G, Dean C, Feldman, M, Rasio, D, Smith D: "Death by Medicine." Life Extension. March, 2004. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/..._awsi_death_01... 7. Moore TJ, Cohen MR, Furberg CD: Serious adverse drug events reported to the Food and Drug Administration, 1998-2005. Archives of Internal Medicine 2007;167:1752-1759. 8. Rivkin A: Admissions to a medical intensive care unit related to adverse drug reactions. American Journal of Health-System Pharmacy 2007;64(17):1840-1843. Many thanks to Dr. Kent for his article. He is a good friend, and one of the leaders in the chiropractic profession. Dr. Kent was named the International Chiropractors Association (ICA) "Chiropractic Researcher of the Year" in 1991, and was the recipient of that honor from World Chiropractic Alliance (WCA) in 1994. Dr. Kent was also selected "Chiropractor of the Year" in 1998 by the International Chiropractors Association, and is the Main Representative of the WCA to the Department of Public Information, the first chiropractor elected to that position. Dr. Kent is co-founder of the Chiropractic Leadership Alliance (CLA) along with another good friend of mine, Patrick Gentempo. An attorney as well as a chiropractor, Dr. Kent is an active member of the State Bar of California, and is admitted as an attorney of the United States District Court, Southern District of California. You can read more about Dr. Kent's work in a special issue of The American Chiropractor. Read Dr. Mercola's comments at: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/ 2008/1/15/recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed-drugs.aspx http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...ticle_9684.cfm |
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