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tjmommy 10-19-2007 06:13 PM
just warning you kinda yucky
 
ok yeah this is yucky but i am wondering bc i cant help but wonder.
tj's testicles still haven't "dropped" he is 9 mo. old
but like normal he was humping away earlier and his lipstick came out.....
i saw his testicles outside his body why cant i see them normally? and does this mean i should still get him neutered he is perfect AKC standard and have talked to a very good breeder and want to stud him?? opinions please
sorry if i yuckied someone out?!?!

yorkiekist 10-19-2007 06:50 PM
One of my boys didnt drop until he was 8 months. I was sweating that one out!!!!!! Did you have the vet check him???

MyFairLacy 10-19-2007 06:56 PM
If they haven't dropped by now, they are most likely not going to on their own. It's called Cryptorchidism and it is genetic. The "testicles' you thought you saw when he was arroused were most likely not testicles at all but the bulb of the penis that swells when they start to have an erection. You even more so want to neuter a cryptorchid dog because they have 10times the chance of developing cancer with their testicles trapped inside of their abdomen. Also, a cryptorchid is not fertile because the the testicle being in the abdomen causes the sperm to be in an environment that is too hot for it to be viable. You would not want to breed a cryptorchid dog if possible either because it is genetic and something you don't want to pass on in the lines...

Archie's Mom 10-19-2007 09:54 PM
My pup was nuetered at 7 months and had one testicle that never dropped. The vet had to "pop" out the one that was hidden. She told me at that time I should contact his breeder and let her know this had happened as it was information she should have for her breeding program. Evidently it is a genetic thing -- so it also might make your puppy ineligible to breed (but I am by no means and expert on this, so don't quote me!). Good luck!

MyFairLacy 10-19-2007 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie's Mom (Post 1447780)
My pup was nuetered at 7 months and had one testicle that never dropped. The vet had to "pop" out the one that was hidden. She told me at that time I should contact his breeder and let her know this had happened as it was information she should have for her breeding program. Evidently it is a genetic thing -- so it also might make your puppy ineligible to breed (but I am by no means and expert on this, so don't quote me!). Good luck!
Yes, you should also contract your breeder to let her know of your dog's condition as she really ought to not be breeding that line any longer. It is genetic and not a good thing to pass on. With cryptorchidism, the neuter is more invasive like a spay..and like I said before - there is a much higher risk of cancer

babychanel 10-19-2007 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1447623)
If they haven't dropped by now, they are most likely not going to on their own. It's called Cryptorchidism and it is genetic. The "testicles' you thought you saw when he was arroused were most likely not testicles at all but the bulb of the penis that swells when they start to have an erection. You even more so want to neuter a cryptorchid dog because they have 10times the chance of developing cancer with their testicles trapped inside of their abdomen. Also, a cryptorchid is not fertile because the the testicle being in the abdomen causes the sperm to be in an environment that is too hot for it to be viable. You would not want to breed a cryptorchid dog if possible either because it is genetic and something you don't want to pass on in the lines...
Wow thats amazing.You educated two members.I wasnt aware of that.I did hear that if testicles dont drop by a certain age isnt likely to happen.I also was told by a breeder that theres some kind of hormone injection that can be given at a young age.(I think she said 2 months or so)She said it prevents this from happening. ?Now that you say this I question this because even though the the testicles end up dropping, this wont prevent the gene from being passed on to its offspring. I would wait a few more months and just have him neutered if they dont drop.You dont want to take any chances.

MyFairLacy 10-19-2007 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by babychanel (Post 1447782)
Wow thats amazing.You educated two members.I wasnt aware of that.I did hear that if testicles dont drop by a certain age isnt likely to happen.I also was told by a breeder that theres some kind of hormone injection that can be given at a young age.(I think she said 2 months or so)She said it prevents this from happening. ?Now that you say this I question this because even though the the testicles end up dropping, this wont prevent the gene from being passed on to its offspring. I would wait a few more months and just have him neutered if they dont drop.You dont want to take any chances.
Hmm...never heard of the hormone injection for this...I'll have to ask one of my vet professors about that next week.

babychanel 10-19-2007 10:12 PM
Yes do that and let us know what they tell you. Its always good to know.thanks.

MyFairLacy 10-19-2007 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by babychanel (Post 1447784)
Yes do that and let us know what they tell you. Its always good to know.thanks.
Yeah, I'm curious about it now. I'll try to remember to ask on Monday

sharong 10-20-2007 05:39 AM
We had the same situation with our little guy Hank. His testicles were retained and had to be removed surgically. In fact he had bladder stones at one point and they did both the surgeries at the same time. That saved him from having to have two surgeries. He did fine. We were also advised about the cancer risk by a couple of vets. He could never have been a dad but we weren't planning on breeding anyway. He did just great after the surgery.

tjmommy 10-20-2007 11:03 AM
i definatley wont breed him if they dont drop becuase i have heard of the genetic disorder before. i was just curious what i was seeing. i am a med student so i guees i am just interested in anotamy lol i hope i didnt weird anyone out. i want to know more about this injection because tj's mommy and daddy are having puppies this week and i am gonig to be getting another one i am wondering if i should try this injection. only if it is 100% safe though!! at what age should i get TJ neutered he is only 3 ibs so i worry about anesthesia! i love you guys thanks!!!

chachi 10-20-2007 11:05 AM
You can get him neutered at 6 months old

MyFairLacy 10-20-2007 11:06 AM
You can have him neutered now. Any weight over 2lbs is supposed to be safe. I'd have a consultation with the vet to see what they suggest - if they think its better go ahead and do the surgery now or if there is any chance his testicles might drop..I doubt they will though. It's going to be a more invasive surgery like a spay since they are in his abdomen so the surgery will cost more than a regular neuter.

tjmommy 10-20-2007 11:06 AM
even if he is so small?

chachi 10-20-2007 11:08 AM
There are alot of yorkies on here his size that have been spayed or neutered

MyFairLacy 10-20-2007 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tjmommy (Post 1448403)
even if he is so small?
As long as a dog is over 2lbs, it can be put under anaesthesia. Of course you want to do a blood work-up beforehand to make sure everything's healthy and it's safe to put him under...but you want to do that with any size dog. Also, make sure your vet is familiar with toy breeds and tinies

tjmommy 10-20-2007 11:10 AM
lol i just worry he is like my child (which i know is normal here lol) with my husband deployed to iraq he is all i have!! ok i will make an appointment this week. thanks!!!

tjmommy 10-20-2007 11:26 AM
thanks guys! so helpful

vviccles1 10-20-2007 09:22 PM
My Jasper is a crypt orchhid and recently had his surgury and neuter,his lipstick showed and still does. you will want to have your guy neutered and depending on his conition and your vet"s recomendation, surgury as well.God forbid you dont want your pup to get cancer.My Jasper"s testicles wre in his tummy. When a male pups testicles dont desend by 12 weeks its usually a red flag. Good luck with your little guy. I went thru a lot of worry but everything is ok now, just am trying to gt him to leave his stiches alone till they are removed.

Txgurl06 10-20-2007 10:30 PM
when you get a well puppy check by your vet when you get a pup, on the males they can usually tell if the testicles are in the right spot. My vet checked skoshi at his first time at the vet for his well puppy check and that was when he was like 9 weeks and they told us his were in the right positions and his are dropped and he is 10months

also if you are getting the new pup to breed after this situation i wouldnt get a pup from the same parents. that is only if you are thinking of breeding it wether its male or female!!! Since it is passed down in genes that means if you breed the pup from this little then their pups might get it.

If you are buying as a pet then i think you should still consider buying the pup. But definately let your breeder know about this.

alex_143 10-20-2007 10:44 PM
Yay I learned something new today!!!!

sweetr72 10-20-2007 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alex_143 (Post 1449694)
Yay I learned something new today!!!!
Me too!! But I think I learn at least one new thing here daily!!

Dawn


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