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alexbnieto 10-04-2007 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 1412617)
There's no way that is a last resort. My trainer would NEVER advise anyone do that. I've trained with her from puppy all the way through advanced with Loki and I'm starting over again with Sammy. Did you find a positive reinforcement trainer or a trained animal behaviorist?



It's basic conditioning. You teach the dog that taking something away from him is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. You can phase out the reward if you want. There is science behind it.

Of course Yorkies aren't stupid. Loki will "fetch" socks and bring them to me and spit them out thinking he will get a treat for it. Who cares? I don't leave anything dangerous around and if you just ignore them they will stop doing it because it's no fun anymore.
As a matter of fact we did get a personal behaviorist trainer for Bruin during the first few weeks of correction. She didn't really help at all (she did everything right too as you explain it, Bruin just wanted it his way). Sometimes the unconventional works. Like Erin said, some dogs do this other do not. It's not a matter of a bad owner or trainer. And i agree with Erin about sometimes needing to treat them like the dogs they are. All my intention was to share what i did and its unconventional correction.

Yorkiekids 10-04-2007 12:38 PM
You really have to stop this behavior right away, even if it means taking all his things away. He needs to learn the drop and leave it command. Have they taken him for any formal training. Sounds like he's trying to be the Alpha in the house.

ketters12 10-04-2007 12:48 PM
Wow, I hope this doesn't start happening with Tobey- he is also 10 months old. He steals things he knows he is not supposed to have and then darts around as we chase him until we get him cornered then he drops it and hangs his head. If he started being aggressive It would take me totally by surprise like it did your daughter. They are doing a lot of things right- I also make tobey do a "sit" or "down" before he gets a toy, treat, food, or let outside into the backyard to play. I feel like I have done a good job establishing that I am the boss, not him, but it seems like this behavior with your daugther's dog was unexpected when they were trying to do everything right. You've gotten some good advice- i don't know about trying to pretend like you are a dog, but the drop it command is one that we've been working on for MONTHS!! he's a quick learner in every command except that one. Good luck!

Erin 10-04-2007 01:00 PM
Here is a great article that explains it far better than I can. There is also a book out there called "Mine!" that is really good.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm

alexbnieto I don't mean to pick on you. I've just seen how the wrong type of dog can react to that type of correction. It's just too dangerous. A lady in puppy class with us had to put her first dog down because it object guarded and she was told by a trainer to use corrections for it. Many dogs guard because they fear you will take their stuff. By using a physical correction, they learn that their fear is justified! Sadly, her dog got worse, not better.

alexbnieto 10-04-2007 02:53 PM
everyone has an opinion about method of correction, thats what these posts are for. fortunately, through those experiences, Bruin did not become scared of me, nor did i reinfornce his thinking im going to be physical for no reason. anyway, that was 6 months ago and all is a-ok now :) great conversations here!

myboy 10-04-2007 07:08 PM
That is good advise. Thanks for reminding me of picking up a toy or snack. I would be scared to death if Deiter would start that. So Thank you to everybody for all the tips to keep him happy, and how to share.

ARCHIE 10-05-2007 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 1412715)
Here is a great article that explains it far better than I can. There is also a book out there called "Mine!" that is really good.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/arti...ctguarding.htm

alexbnieto I don't mean to pick on you. I've just seen how the wrong type of dog can react to that type of correction. It's just too dangerous. A lady in puppy class with us had to put her first dog down because it object guarded and she was told by a trainer to use corrections for it. Many dogs guard because they fear you will take their stuff. By using a physical correction, they learn that their fear is justified! Sadly, her dog got worse, not better.

I read that article a long time ago when I did some research into this
problem. It was very helpful.
Thanks for posting it again.


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