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TLC 08-27-2007 06:24 PM

I have to agree with everyone.

Roxy was 6 months and TJ was 13 weeks. They had already been started with paper training, etc.

I rather them be a bit older. Mine are 2.5 yrs. now and still act like pups - very funny to watch. And we added Cuddles (15 months) now too!

And $100 each - OMG - I honestly suggest you snatch them BOTH up! What a deal. Plus, truthfully, everyone deserves to have a 'forever friend'

You would have such a blast with 2 - and they would be BEST BUDS!

Get them both :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

puppy_Love08 08-27-2007 07:18 PM

Something just doesn't seem right about this. I'm trying to recall bits and pieces of our first conversation. I think she said the "older" puppies would be best in homes without little children, although she has young school-aged children at home. I checked out her web site, and I don't see any mention of the "older" puppies. When I asked her again why she is selling them so cheap, she said she is in a position to do so. It sounds like she is trying to "move" them because she believes they really need to be in their permanent homes.

What kind of questions should I ask? What should I look for when I go look at the puppies? I don't want to make a mistake, but when something seems too good to be true, it usually is!

Chelsea15 08-27-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzy (Post 1334793)
I think the 5-8 lb. male in #2 sounds like a great buy! He'll be a little bigger, so you don't have to worry about how fragile he is all the time. Plus, it sounds like a very experienced breeder-which IMO is a GOOD THING!

yea I always thought I wanted a small one. Now i have Abby she weighs 3.5 pounds and I always worry about how fragile she is... Even at night I worry about rolling on her. If (I mean WHEN:)) I get another, I'll make sure they weigh over 5 pounds.

And i got Abby at 13 weeks, so 14 or 15 is not bad at all.

alex_143 08-27-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1335374)
Something just doesn't seem right about this. I'm trying to recall bits and pieces of our first conversation. I think she said the "older" puppies would be best in homes without little children, although she has young school-aged children at home. I checked out her web site, and I don't see any mention of the "older" puppies. When I asked her again why she is selling them so cheap, she said she is in a position to do so. It sounds like she is trying to "move" them because she believes they really need to be in their permanent homes.

What kind of questions should I ask? What should I look for when I go look at the puppies? I don't want to make a mistake, but when something seems too good to be true, it usually is!

what's the website link i'll check it out for you and give you my opinion on her cause something doesnt seem right you can just pm me it

Yorkieluv 08-27-2007 08:16 PM

Yes, if you post the link or let someone take a look at it through a pm, you might be able to get some good opinions...Someone will be able to spot any red flags that there may be...

lara2913 08-27-2007 11:44 PM

Hmmm, by all means go and see the puppies. But $100 is ridiculously cheap, make sure you really vet the breeder. Insist on seeing the parents and her other dogs (to check out the living conditions), ask her loads of questions about their eating habits, training, their littermates and other things because you want to make sure that she has actually bred them. If you do decide to buy them then remember to get the health guarantee in a written contract.

sweetr72 08-28-2007 02:51 AM

I would go for the ones that are $100.00 and 15 weeks...BUT I would definetely wonder why they are so cheap...were they oops puppies..mixed breed she is trying sell as yorkies?? If you get one...take him/her to your vet right away...set up an appointment so that you can go directly there and get everything in writing...sounds like a great deal though...as long as everything is on the up and up...

Good luck!!

Dawn

puppy_Love08 08-28-2007 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1335612)
I would go for the ones that are $100.00 and 15 weeks...BUT I would definetely wonder why they are so cheap...were they oops puppies..mixed breed she is trying sell as yorkies?? If you get one...take him/her to your vet right away...set up an appointment so that you can go directly there and get everything in writing...sounds like a great deal though...as long as everything is on the up and up...

Good luck!!

Dawn

According to her web site, she breeds other breeds of dogs as well. So I was thinking along the lines that you were....are these mixed breeds. I asked her if she had proof they are purebred Yorkies, and she said she had the AKC registration papers. But couldn't a breeder fib?

I'm afraid to give specific information because I would hate for someone to contact her and get the puppies before I have a chance to look at them!

lara2913 08-28-2007 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1336010)
According to her web site, she breeds other breeds of dogs as well. So I was thinking along the lines that you were....are these mixed breeds. I asked her if she had proof they are purebred Yorkies, and she said she had the AKC registration papers. But couldn't a breeder fib?

I'm afraid to give specific information because I would hate for someone to contact her and get the puppies before I have a chance to look at them!

Yes the breeder could fib, she could simply lie to AKC about who the father is.

puppy_Love08 08-28-2007 06:32 AM

If a 14 week old puppy weighs 3 pounds already (she's guessing), does that sound like he will weigh only 4-5 pounds full grown??

Gazou 08-28-2007 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1336050)
If a 14 week old puppy weighs 3 pounds already (she's guessing), does that sound like he will weigh only 4-5 pounds full grown??

Approx 5 1/2 to 6 pounds .

genie 08-28-2007 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1336050)
If a 14 week old puppy weighs 3 pounds already (she's guessing), does that sound like he will weigh only 4-5 pounds full grown??

I think that they can grow at different rates. My yorkie was 2 pounds when I got her at 11 weeks old and now at 11 months old she is 4.2 pounds. My maltese was a little more than 3 pounds at 12 weeks old and now at 7 months old he is almost 8 pounds and still gaining very fast.

omichka 08-28-2007 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1334724)
I found another breeder in our state (AL). She has a male who will be "standard size" (5-8 lbs.) for $450. He will be ready next week. Her tiny puppy (will be 4 lbs. or less) is $1000. She offers a one-year health guarantee against all life-threatening illnesses/disease and will replace the puppy if something is wrong with it during that time. She has 27 years experience breeding

Note: No such thing as 8lb STANDARD. The standard of this breed is up to 7lb. If a pup bigger, that means it is back yard breeding .
Red flag: replacement a puppy without returning money back is BAD. Most of puppy millers have similar "quarantee". If something happen to a pup, would you replace for another defective puppy from a bad breeder? ;)

Try to find the breeder through the club who quarantees returning money or at least negotiate re those details: make it sign in contract that IF puppy is sick the breeder will be RESPONSIBLE for vet bills.

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Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1334724)

Another local breeder has three boys ready. One is 8 weeks. The mother is 5 lbs., father 3.2 lbs. He is $600. She describes him as energetic and "beats up" on the two older puppies. She has two older puppies: one is 14 weeks, one is 15 weeks. She says one is shy, the other is "brilliant" and a go-getter. She will sell them for $100 each to the "right" home. The father is the same as the 8 week old: 3.2 lbs. One's mother is 4.5 lbs., the other 6 lbs. She offers a guarantee that the puppies are healthy now, but if a vet check shows a problem, she will replace the puppy. She has 15 years experience breeding

No good breeder will sell a pup at age less than 10 weeks. Usually 12 or even 14 weeks. $100 is way to suspicious to me. I have never seen prices like that for a good quality and HEALTHY yorkies, so I guess she is a puppy miller, who mass produce puppies and can afford a wholesale price, or maybe something wrong with the puppies...:confused:

Also, the breeder's experience doesn't mean much. I know VERY RESPONSIBLE breeder with 2 years experience and typical puppy millers with exerience 15+ years....

omichka 08-28-2007 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puppy_Love08 (Post 1336010)
According to her web site, she breeds other breeds of dogs as well. So I was thinking along the lines that you were....are these mixed breeds. I asked her if she had proof they are purebred Yorkies, and she said she had the AKC registration papers. But couldn't a breeder fib?

I'm afraid to give specific information because I would hate for someone to contact her and get the puppies before I have a chance to look at them!

well... i was right. she seems to me as a typical puppy miller since she breeds other breeds. AKC means nothing. Most of puppy mill's dogs have AKC papers and AKC work with puppy mills and makes alot of money from them.

Please, don't support puppy mills. Oh, btw, I have noticed that some puppy millers pretend to be a good Christians, honest and good breeders:eek: , but reality is different...:( :thumbdown

Yorkieluv 08-28-2007 07:44 AM

If she breeds other breeds, I would definitely be careful...Look her up and find out if she is USDA licensed, that\'s a good way to check and see if she is running a big operation...


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