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Janie616 07-07-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki (Post 1218629)
I did not find Monday’s post to be insulting, heck she was a lot more diplomatic than I was when I composed a response that I did not post. If anything I feel your thread can come across as insulting, perhaps you did not mean it to be, but considering your “I'm sure to get a LOT of flack about this post!!” you knew you would get some reactions. I am assuming you were well intended with your original post........But man.......it's very easy to interpret that post in many ways.....


I have to agree with Surfie and Tiki .... Monday was not being insulting, she just was trying to find out why in the world would you post this thread to begin with, here on a Yorkie Lovers' board.....

and Pat022351 had an inkling she was going to get some "flack" as she put it.

Comparing toddlers and Yorkies is not the thing to do. Yorkies can not do much for themselves. I know some people I would never leave home alone and they are grown up .and yes, I would never leave a toddler alone. and I would not walk one on a leash either... but we try to train our Yorkies to be disciplined.

Whatever! This is a mixed up thread. many opinions ... I doubt Monday meant to insult you personally.

yorkiegirl83 07-07-2007 07:00 PM

I also think that comparing toddlers to yorkies is just a weird analogy. Toddlers are children that cannot fend for themselves in any way, nor is it safe for them to.

Yorkies, while they might get into mischief, can handle certain things on their own. I know that mine are a LOT of work, but I have multiple dogs one year of age or less. I made this commitment to working with them and am not working right now (but if I do work in the future it will be alternately scheduled with DH so that the babies are not left alone).

I am postponing having children until they are all at least a few years of age, because I know that is what will be best for my personal situation.

But that is just the thing, it's totally personal. Some yorkies can stay home a full work day without their owners.. the owners puppy proof the house.. and the yorkie is fine.

You can't just leave your toddler alone in an xpen or room alone and expect it to be able to feed itself, relieve itself, ect.

I think I know what you were getting at by starting this post, I just think it came across wrong.

pat022351 07-07-2007 07:36 PM

Unfortunately - this type attack is the reason so many YTMembers wind up ending their yorkietalk membership , YorkieTalk has beome very cliquey (sp).

there are a few members who seem to run the show. Time to let the new members have
a save on the forum;;

SJK1113 07-07-2007 07:49 PM

As much as we love our babies, we are not perfect. Unfortunately, bad things happen. That does not mean we are bad yorkie owners. I'm the mother of three children (all grown), and I supervised my children and taught them right from wrong. They still had accidents, like all children do. All I can do is supervise Jake and try to keep him as safe as possible. He's actually easy to supervise because he follows me everywhere I go. But, I am human and I make mistakes just like anyone else. As for dressing them up and taking pictures of them, there's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, if we're dressing them and taking pictures, we're spending time with them and supervising them during this time. They don't dress themselves and take their own pics. (Although Jake is a pro at taking his clothes OFF):D

SugarMama 07-07-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Monday (Post 1218419)


I am sorry, but this post is an insult to each and every one of us ... there is not one member on YT who takes the responsibility of caring for a Yorkie lightly.

Why would you even think to come on a Yorkie Lovers Forum and lecture them about how to care for their babies? Are you trying to stir the pot?

Everybody on this forum loves their Yorkies as a family member. You are wrong to assume otherwise.

Your post is analogous to telling parents how to run their homes and schools how to run their facility.

What made you think anyone on here is frivolous?

I'm a new member here & I agree w/ Monday. As soon as I read the first post I thought, this can't be real, then each reply to remarks made seemed destined to egg more people on. Personally, I think it would be great if no one else responded to this thread. We all do what we can to take care of our furbabies and as I've learned from Oprah, we do the best we can at the time, and as we learn from each situation we do better the next time....and I REALLY don't intend to insult or anger anyone, I just plan to move on to a happier thread myself.

Ciera's mom 07-07-2007 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow (Post 1218376)
I hope this doesn't offend anyone, because I certainly don't mean to, but I do not feel that comparing owning a yorkie to having a child is a good one.


The reason I say that is because I do not feel that owning a yorkie is as exhausting as being a parent. Say you have a 2 year old yorkie and you bring a new puppy home??? There are no 2 am feedings (maybe potty breaks LOL) and you didn't just go through xx amount of hours to deliver the puppy.(unless you assisted in the whelp)..but with human kids sometimes moms are just tired because maybe Dad's work and mom's home with 2 toddlers and has just had baby 3 and she is exhausted....because she has cleaned the house for the millioneth time and she was up all night with a colicky newborn...I could totally see mom falling asleep and her two toddlers trash the house...does that make her a bad mom? No, that means she is just exhausted and hopefully there is someone she can rely on for help.

For me, parenting Yorkies isn't as exhausting as parenting skinkids...for one, my yorkies listen bettter...and another, my yorkies CAN do some things for themselves but with human toddlers they are pretty much reliant on Mom or Dad.

It is a HUGE gap between a furbaby and a skinbaby...now my furbabies are just like my kids, but they don't demand as much.

I am sorry if I offend anyone with this, as I said, not my intentions, but I don't think it is fair to compare yorkies to toddlers. BIG difference (and my kids didn't chew on electrical cords but they did chew on table legs LOLOL)

And if we stop and really think about it, alot of the extra care we put into our yorkies are by CHOICE. We choose to treat them just like children, because to most of us that is what they are, our children. But some of the things we do (clothes for example) are not necessities to their care, but with skinkids EVERYTHING we do for them is necessity.

Accidents happen all the time. If someone's dog is stolen that isn't the owner's fault...it is the crooks fault....Would you tell them they are to blame?

Would you go to a mom who's child was just snatched from her while she was in the bathtub or using the toilet would you tell her she would still have her child if she had taken him/her to the bathroom with her??? What if the child is one that is an escape artist...mom put him/her down for a nap..mom takes a nap...kid wakes up before mom and wanders out of the house...does that make her a bad mom??? I think it means she is exhausted and needs someone to give her a break.

It is inevitable that a toddler is probably alone for a few minutes everyday, as it is inevitable that a yorkie or any furkid is alone for a few minutes or more everyday.

And, once again, I don't mean to offend, but i would leave my furkids unattended before I left my CHILD unattended.

:thumbup: AMEN!!

Surfie and Tiki 07-07-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pat022351 (Post 1218902)
Unfortunately - this type attack is the reason so many YTMembers wind up ending their yorkietalk membership , YorkieTalk has beome very cliquey (sp).

there are a few members who seem to run the show. Time to let the new members have
a save on the forum;;

I saw NO one attack you, I saw people disagreeing with you, big difference.
Don’t quite know where you are coming from…
So be it...

daisy mae06 07-07-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1218347)
They are - but if one has little mommies babies like I do - watching them is easy - I have 2 velcro'd to my butt at all times - One for each CHEEK :D

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I have the two Yters and the Big dog too :) LOL
I know what you mean ... I LOVE IT:thumbup: !!!!

daisy mae06 07-07-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pat022351 (Post 1218902)
Unfortunately - this type attack is the reason so many YTMembers wind up ending their yorkietalk membership , YorkieTalk has beome very cliquey (sp).


there are a few members who seem to run the show. Time to let the new members have
a save on the forum;;

Sorry but it seems you threw the first stone...... And you can speak your mind as Everyone else on here will:D

Proud Mommy 07-07-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pat022351 (Post 1218268)
maybe it's time to discuss the fact that owning a Yorkie isn't all about dressing them in cute clothes, taking adorable pictures of them, and posting them on YT.

Yorkies, even as adults, don't get beyond the toddler stage. Would you leave your toddler alone in the house to chew on electrical cords, would you leave your toddler alone in your backyard without supervision, would you fall asleep and let your toddler do whatever toddler's do when their not supervised??

I feel that if your life is too busy to watch a dog 24/7 (at least when you're home (obviously you would have other arrangements when you are at work) - then maybe you're not a candidate to own a Yorkie.

I'm sure to get a LOT of flack about this post!!

I do not normally post because I, myself am new, but the reason I am here is because of a lost (stolen) Yorkie... I do blame myself for the fact that he is gone but I know deep, deep down there is nothing I could have done to prevent it. This thread really broke my heart:(

Anna Banana 07-07-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1219068)
I do not normally post because I, myself am new, but the reason I am here is because of a lost (stolen) Yorkie... I do blame myself for the fact that he is gone but I know deep, deep down there is nothing I could have done to prevent it. This thread really broke my heart:(

We all know that too...well, most of us do. Don't be heartbroken. No one else is walking in your shoes, and no one else has the right to make such insulting generalizations that are rudely addressed toward people in your position. You are a wonderful mommy.

MyTrixie143 07-08-2007 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenn218 (Post 1218544)
Like Marci (and many others), I normally ignore these types of posts, but I just had to put in my two cents.

First, not all Yorkies are alike. You will get some that are chewers, some that are not, some that will not come to you when called, some that do...some that are easy to potty train, some that are not....you get the picture.

Second, not everyone should have a Yorkie...or any dog for that matter. Some people want a specific breed (like our Yorkies) because they are so cute and they are the "it" dog it seems right now.....does that mean they are ready for one? NO.....some people start with good intentions and realize that it just isn't working....I hope (and pray) that those people in that situation takes rehoming the dog to heart.

I know we might all think our pets are perfect, as we do our own kids, well, they are not, but they are not all so unbearable to watch all day or to train, etc.

And regarding missing or lost or sick pets....(and children)....tragedy strikes even the best of people. A child from a home where a parent is with them all day, can end up missing or abducted just as easily as a child from a home where they are left alone all day. I mean, you just never know who or what sicko is out watching and waiting. It can happen to anyone and anytime. Accidents happen too....to anyone, anytime.

I have been blessed with Mojo who we never crate trained, who roams a three story house unattended if we are gone, who has never chewed or destroyed a thing in his life (I think he is too picky) and who I can let off leash outside (not often) and he will come when called. He is the most mellow, laidback little guy ever. Lily on the other head (new to our home) is a hyper and fast little girl. She doesn't chew or hide or runs when called. She is a loud barker and a moocher, but a wonderful girl.

Anyway, point being....all cases are different, all situations are different, all Yorkies are different, all people are different...........


I totally agree. Great post!!:thumbup:

Some yorkies might be like having a toddler whereas other yorkies aren't, they are all different.
For example, Destiny is a huge chewer. You have to constantly watch her because she will chew anything she can get a hold of so letting her roam the house without supervision is not an option. But then I have Trixie who is an angel, never chews on anything she isn't suppose, never gets into anything and can be trusted to be unsupervised at times when necessary.

I do understand what you are saying though. I have seen too many people own yorkies or other breeds of dogs that shouldn't own them. They do not supervise them at all which could be hazardous.
Take my ex step dad for instance. He has a German shepherd/husky mix. She is less then a year old. He does not supervise her at all. So when you walk into his house you will see paper shredded everywhere, plastic pieces are parts chewed on, just a total disaster zone. The dog is allowed to do whatever she pleases and is hardly ever supervised. Now that is a perfect example of someone who should not own a dog. Generally most puppies need to be supervised a lot, but once they know the rules are older and more mature they don't need it as much.
Again not all dogs or yorkies require the same amount of supervision, but I do agree that if you are not willing to supervise at all what a dog is doing all day, you shouldn't have a dog.

As for the yorkies or dogs that are lost or stolen, it is not the owners fault. I have seen only a few rare cases where the owner was to blame but that is really not the case. You can't prevent these things completely, you can to a certain point but that it is it, it is just an accident. You can't prevent accidents from happening that is why they are called accidents.

I can see where you were going with the toddler thing, I just think people took it the wrong way or it came across the wrong way.

chachi 07-08-2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1219068)
I do not normally post because I, myself am new, but the reason I am here is because of a lost (stolen) Yorkie... I do blame myself for the fact that he is gone but I know deep, deep down there is nothing I could have done to prevent it. This thread really broke my heart:(

You are a good yorkie Mommy dont worry about this thread

YorkieTime07 07-08-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1219068)
I do not normally post because I, myself am new, but the reason I am here is because of a lost (stolen) Yorkie... I do blame myself for the fact that he is gone but I know deep, deep down there is nothing I could have done to prevent it. This thread really broke my heart:(

Please don't feel that way!! accidents happen and that is all it was an accident beyond your control and we will continue to pray for his safe return

YorkieTime07 07-08-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1219043)
Sorry but it seems you threw the first stone...... And you can speak your mind as Everyone else on here will:D

:D :thumbup: that is so true!! hey i am relatively new and I speak my mind and realize not everyone will agree but that what this forum is ..to exchange ideas, thoughts and opnions..we just need to learn not to take it so personal!!!! I don't think that there is a click on this site as was suggested but you have to realize that some of these yt members have been on here for a very long time and have gotten familiar with each other and the babies so they have developed a bond.longevity is what that is.The more you post and they get to know you I think you will feel more of a bond with them as well...Remember this is JMO!!!!!:D


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