i think the book/show centers on bigger dogs. and the time frame he gives for walking is probably geared towards larger breeds. I agree with him somewhat on the whole DOGS ARE DOGS issues. in some ways, yes our dogs are our babies, but unlike babies, dogs can bite and cause damage. so unlike babies, dogs need DISCIPLINE. Nothing is more fun that cuddling and kissing our dogs, but i would rather not cuddle all the time and have a WELL BEHAVED dog that i can take on fun trips and walks and to parks and stores. then cuddle all the time and enforce no rules and end up with a dog that i cant take anywhere or do anything fun with and that is one of those crazy lil dogs that ends up on ceasars show.
My mom lives with me and has always given charlie nothing but love, even when we was bad. while i was the one who enforced discipline when he was bad AND loved him when he was good. and now, hes the biggest brat with her, he doesnt come when she calls him and he thinks hes dominant over her.

the one thing i swore when i decided to get a small dog is that it wouldnt end up like those chihuahuas on ceasars show. Agression is never cute and it shouldnt matter how big the dog is to decide if aggresive behaviors are acceptable.

I believe in his methods a 100%. The thing is he is not hurting the at all he is treating them the way that the pack leader would treat their pups in the wild. The leash pulling isn't pulling them to choke them he pulls it quick enough to grab their attention from what is giving them anxiety. He really does know what he's talking about.
Also the reason that he states that the dogs should be left on the floor (I don't do this because my little ones are to cute:p ) is because once you let a dog sleep on your bed and on the couch it makes them think that they are your equal or above you especially with larger breed dogs and yes yorkies too because they tend to be jealous. I do believe in the walking and holding them by the back of the neck it has worked for me since I have teld with overly aggressive dogs.
His methods are based on the health and well being of the dog from back in the day when dogs worked and doing what they were breed for and helping them extend their life. So many dogs are overweight, not sociaizedl, and overly hyper because they are not walked enough. Walking is huge for their life no matter what size they are.

I absolutely LOVE his methods... for our Chocolate Lab. :) He has said himself that he is more comfortable working with larger breeds, and so I can see that the training absolutely applies to bigger dogs. I do treat our Yorkies so much different than our Cocoa. I also think that he has to be more strict with the dogs on the show, because they are on the show for a reason. So he needs to get them back in line. As far as Tamar's training... works good with little dogs but not one method she provided would work for our lab. (Don't get me wrong, our lab is very loved, but we have to be much more disciplined with her so that she is not an obnoxious out of control large dog.) Oh, and as far as the walking thing... that again is for large breeds. If we didn't walk Cocoa at least an hour every day, she would tear our house apart. The needs of big and little dogs are just so differrent...

I've only seen him on Oprah a couple times, so I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. I do think he seems to have an attitude/ego though, and that kinda turns me off, no matter what his methods are.

My feelings are Cesar is more about large dogs, especially since he started out with Rotties and Pitts. Smaller breeds just can't be handled like the larger breeds. But a lot of Cesars techniques can be used on the little ones. I do the finger nip thing and it works but I do not do not agree with the hold them down until they submit method.

I don't want my kids to be afraid of me.

Just like any thing else in our lives, you take what works for you and leave the rest behind.

Just cuz Tofu is good doesn't mean you want it to be a part of your diet. Right? - But I love Tofu!!!

I know a lot of people who do not like him and say he is cruel, but I agree with his methods.

I have not had time to read all of the posts, so sorry if I am repeating. I will read them all tomorrow and probably post again, I just have a few things that I'd like to say now.

I have read the dog whisperer book and really recommend it to anyone who is having problems training their dog, no matter what kind they have. I think he is a man who really understands the creatures he works with, and how their minds work. I think if people took the time to listen to him when he talks about why dogs get into the behavior patterns they do, we would all be a LOT less frustrated with our babies when they pee on the carpet, or seem to do things "out of spite"

I have used mostly his methods in training Paddington, and I think it's done wonders! People where ever we go can't believe that I've been training him less than two weeks. Today we did a little "show" for my grandma at the memorial day picnic, and even I was amazed at what he has picked up. Even potty training has gone SO well! And I think it is because I have been following his methods. Then again, I also think I have a genius dog (but which of us on here doesn't!!! :rolleyes: )

I really like what he has to say about the owner being in control of everything the dog has access to, and that the dog has to earn priviliges. It sounds harsh to a lot of people (my mother chides me for being mean to my dog because I make him sit before I give him his food) but it really makes sense when you look at it from a dog's perspective. Not only is it in a dog's instincts to work for his food and survival, but it reminds him that I am the one in control.

I've never seen his DVD's, but plan on getting them with my next paycheck, and I have only seen parts of his TV show, so I am only basing my opinion on his book. As a behavioral psychologist, I love his methods, and even if you don't agree with them I think it is still worth it to read his book just to understand what it is that you don't agree with. Either way you get a better understanding of how you want to train your dog!
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In his book he talks against using this method! I am confused, does he use this method on his show???? There is a whole chapter in his book talking about how old fashioned and just plain wrong this method is
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LOVE LOVE LOVE Cesar
 

I agree with most of his tactics. I also agree with some of you who say that he is a little rough. But he does it accordingly. I'm sure he knows exactly how much pressure to apply with each dog. He's gotten his share of bites and mostly from the little ones that look the least harmful. I totally agree that dogs are dogs and not people. I love my Holly, but at the end of the day she is a dog. A pampered one, but a dog nonetheless. She knows I am the pack leader and to this day has not challenged my position at all. Anyhow, I do love Cesar and will continue to watch his show and be a big fan. Oh I forgot to mention, I definitely use the shhhhht sound and finger with Holly. It totally works.

C'mon who has the hots for Cesar? go ahead and ADMIT IT! :)

lol i must admit. i did think he was hot for a while :p

I think he's good looking too! (running and hiding)!

I totally agree!

Yeah he's cute, I'll admit that.

LOL! OK...I CANNOT admit that. He seems very short to me. (Of course, I'm on the tall side for a girl at 5' 8"). I don't tend to go for short guys. My husband is 6' 2", and it's perfect...even when I wear heels! :D The rest of you can fight over Cesar!

lol he's cute but not worth fighting over. I agree about the short thing. Sometimes I feel like the dogs have a bit of a sad look after he's done training them. It's hard to explain, but I don't like it. I do think some of his ideas about training the people are right on because some people have no clue!

I have a few more pages of Cesar's Way to read. Someone on YT recommended it to me and I have seen such a difference in Max since I started "leading the pack." I like his philosophy, and his main rules.

I like the rule remember that he's a dog and not a human. He never says "just a dog." I think he has a great deal of respect for the species, and I have found that since I've been looking at Max as a dog, not a baby, I'm enjoying him even more. I'm finding it remarkable that we can co-exist in harmony with a different species and that we love them and they love us. Someone posted here that we have a language barrier with them, and we just have to figure out how to get them to understand what we want. I think that's pretty much Cesar M.'s point. I think, for those of you who like to "baby" your dogs, it can be compatible with understanding that your Yorkie is really not human, but a dog who you pamper and baby. I spoil mine. Discipline before affection is difficult, but I also find that with Max it is helpful. The exercise thing is amazing, as is teaching him to walk properly. I don't give it as much time as CM says, but we do have our walks and he has changed so much from them. I have him on a harness, but they can be taught to heel pretty easily on as harness. I find it really relaxing and enjoyable to walk with him anyway.

Of course, I don't do everything he says, I rarely watch his show because it's pretty repetitive, and I do think he is so hot!

By the way, I have tried that turning him on his back, submission thing - it just backfires - I don't think Yorkies respond well to that. They're a little too easily over-stimulated and, at least, Max just focuses on getting away. I change his focus and he submits to something else.

Sorry this is so long, but I'm in the middle of working with CM's methods.

You're right. Exercise really is the key. And you're also right that Cesar is a hottie!:D

So that's why you bought the stroller - so they wouldn't get heat stroke while walking???? :yelrotflm

I just got done watching the whole first season of his show. (from the library) I think he is amazing the way he works and the results he gets. I don't do the long walks, either but it makes me wonder about some of the Yorkies I've read about with behavorial problems... maybe it WOULD help them.

I love and pamper my pups but they ARE dogs. Sorry, but they are! :cool: I totally believe in the pack leader thing and my pups are learning now about letting me in and out of the door first. In the past I have taken larger breeds to training classes and saw many dogs there who would have benefited greatly by Cesar's ways.

I have found that they don't hate you or become afraid - they respect you. On the holding them down issue, I use that with one of mine cause she can get aggressive out of jealousy. Well, that is just not ok - it can cause way too many problems. She certainly isn't afraid of me... she wants to be with me all the time and would lick my face till it fell off if I let her!

So, I guess I would give Cesar a :thumbup: . :)

He's full of it.

What Cesar says and what he does are two different things. He'll point to the dog and say "look now he is calm" but he's NOT. The dog is obviously showing stress signals and he just says "he is in the calm state". It's BS. Just because Cesar says it does not mean it's true or what is actually happening.

There was an episode with a Golden Retreiver and a pool. The dog LOVED to swim in the pool but the family didn't want him in there for whatever reason. So rather than teaching the dog a down-stay or simply locking him out of the safety gate that surrounded the pool, Cesar basically chased him out of the pool every time he jumped in until he stopped jumping in. While that seems to work and makes for good TV - it was obvious that the dog was stressed and confused and afraid of what would happen if he jumped in the pool!!!

Yes dogs need exercise.
Yes dogs need leadership.
Yes dogs need boundaries.
ANY good trainer will tell you that. But what you won't get from a trainer is all the BS about being dominant or "biting" your dog with your hand or any of that BS. They will explain there is a difference between leadership and dominance. And they also know that dogs aren't stupid enough to think people are dogs. Cesar uses some stuff he made up that has NO basis in science and dog training and some stuff that is way old school dog training and no longer favored. The experts - those with Ph.D's who have been training dogs for 30 years and doing research - favor positive reinforcements techniques. The problem with that? It's not sensational enough for TV. It's slow, methodical, and requires a committment on the part of the owner. Cesar swoops in and appears to fix everything and suddenly he's a hero.

Cesar talks about some of the right things, but he DOES a lot of the wrong things. And I feel that actions speak louder than words in this case.

Im indifferent about him. Some of his advice is good but a lot of it does not apply to a small dog like a yorkie. I was watching him last night with a small breed, and in this episode, he didn't seem to be to harsh on them. He had a bichon/poodle mix who was a rescue dog...about 10 lbs. He was evil, always growled at people showing his teeth. This dog couldnt even go to the groomer because he was so bad. When Cesar tried to groom him, the dog bit him on the finger! :eek:

I watched that one! After he bit him, I think he said something like, "Yes this is what we want." :rolleyes:

I like Caesar, but I don't agree with everything he does. I do agree that dogs need exercise and socialization.

Izzy, I saw the same one and he did NOT have the dog under control at all. He basically held the dog the whole time by the throat and the owner cut the hair. He did say numerous times he was not choking the dog. I watch him but I am not sure about him.

I am Ceasar's worse nightmare....he says dogs should not be in bed with you...well my dogs have a california king....My hubby and I just sleep in it with them...lol He says we should not greet or pay attention to them if they are jumping and bouncing at you....you should wait until they calm down and you are ready to greet them....YA RIGHT Bella and Diggy decide when I set my purse down...when I take my shoes off...and I have to give them a treat before I can change out of my work clothes..... Sad but true.:D

I agree...I try to watch the episodes with little dogs to see how he trains them. So far none of them have impressed me.:rolleyes:

Yeah, he said you have to ignore them when coming in the house. That is hard when they are barking and jumping up and down...they are excited to see you and that is a good feeling!

What I so is I talk to him while I am putting my purse down, then I make him sit, after that I pick him up and give him a big hug!:) Then we go out for a walk to run off that pent up energy for the day.

I agree!:thumbup: