Question about registering
 

I have a friend who has a 3 year old male who is only 2 pounds and she is wanting to stud him out now (to me and another friend of mine). Anyways, back when her husband bought the dog, he didnt even ask anything about papers. Now my girl is AKC and so its the other female but with the male not having papers, is there anything we could do or can we get him papered?:confused:

Thanks in advance!

you can't register him without the proper paperwork from the breeder. Also, a two pound male should not be bred.

Okay I was just asking for advice on the registration only.


Thanks..

Have they tried to contact the breeder to ask? That would be where you'll have to go. Without the paperwork from them (if it is registerable) I don't think it can be registered. :confused:

Well its a long story but here is the basis of it... The owner of the little male .. her husband acquired him from another friend whose parents kept him OUTSIDE but refused to get rid of him so their son gave him to the husband knowing they would treat him wonderful. So.. he couldnt ask for the papers b/c then his parents would know he got rid of him (when actually he was doing the Yorkie a favor). He is AKC but there is no way of getting the papers from them without blowing their sons cover. (And YES he is an adult, 30something.. not a 12 yr old boy who got rid of the dog) LOL


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Call or check www.akc.org they may be able to help you. Does the friend know where his parents got the Yorkie?

I think there is too much wrong with this scenario to get the AKC papers. And if you do get the papers, if you stud this 2# dog, you could injure him permanently. JMHO

I agree!

I didn't know that! Can I ask how they get injured? Just curious.. and being nosy... I didn't know small males can get hurt.

Okay thanks to those replied on the registration situation, however, once again I realize why I do not post here because of the unsolicited advice given by others.

They can if the person breeding them doesnt have a brain STEM but according to some members here, they are the only ones who are allowed to breed.

you are so rude. i didn't think any of the posts regarding breeding your two pound male was rude to you. You are gonna do what you are gonna do anyway. Wether you post more or not is up to you too. but, when you post about breeding a two pound male you need too expect others opinions. if you didn't want to hear them, you should have only posted your registration question. you could have left out the part about your two pound male. that clearly shows lack of education and research.

No YOU are the rude one. You and your handful of people here who think they are the 'holiest' of breeders and are teh only ones allowed to do such. I am very much educated and have done plenty of research. Its just a shame that there are people as miserable as yourself have to stalk posts trying to throw out their unsolicited advice. No one asked your 'opinion' on breeding, my question was for REGISTRATION. Maybe your the one who lacks the education.;)

Studding a 2 lbs male is not a good idea. It was good advice. If you insist on going ahead, consider lemon laws in your state and other issues.
A 2 lbs male could very well have health issues that may not be exhibited at the moment and may never but could carry them and could very well pass those on.
How much responsibility are you willing to take on if puppies are born? Will you refund the purchase price to the new owner of a puppy if it has problems? What if they end up paying thousands of dollars in vet bills which is not uncommon in very tiny Yorkies.
Of course there is no guarantee the resulting progeny will be tiny, however, I would strongly discourage using such a tiny male for breeding based on the fact that he would be considered to be a very poor representative of the breed. This is not considered to be responsible breeding by true fanciers of the breed.

ONCE again, THIS IS NOT MY DOG. Its my friends male and I was considering breeding it with my female but since there are NO PAPERS it wont be happening. However, if the papers were there, I would do so. And yes I take responsibility for the puppies I would have.

I understand you were asking about registration and i understand you frustration with the breeding subject here on YT but these 2 ladies know what they are doing and they are very nice and helpful on this site when it comes to breeding they don't bash they sincerley try to help. Yes there are a few breeders here that have the attitude you have mentioned but these two have really been here to help and educate try to stay positive they are only giving advice that could help you in the long run.

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Yes I know some people here give good advice but to just go around posting what they think in a post that doesnt ask them to tell me about size and breeding is unnecessary. I appreciate most the members here and know that experience means more than just reading up on something:) but this happens on a lot of post around here it seems. I could post something about my yorkies poop habits and I would get some reply about how I am not doinig something to thier standards.

All I wanted was to know about the papers and I got that answer from AKC this morning so thanks to the replies regarding my question.:thumbup:

Nobody said it was your male. However, any mating takes a male and a female. Regardless of who owns which, there are many factors involved in considering any mating that a responsible breeder takes very serious.
I know our input was unsolicited, however, it is the reputable breeders that end up picking up the pieces of matings that never should have happened.
How is that?
Well, I get people who find me or my website etc or the info from other reputable breeders, AFTER they have bought from somewhere they should not have. They tell me their very sad stories of their beloved pet they lost at a very young age, even after spending a fortune in Vet bills. I believe if I recall correctly, there are a few pet owners on this forum that this has happened to. I also end up defending my breed assuring potential pet buyers that no not all Yorkies have all these genetic or congenital problems that can manifest themselves in abundance when matings occur that should not have happened due to the lack of information on the backgrounds of the parents.
You see, it isn't just whether or not a dog is or isn't registered with a legitimate registry. There are many things to consider including the odds that you will end up putting a beloved puppy into the hands of someone that may end up in a heartbreak situation because that puppy is not healthy which can take even a year or more to manifest a problem.
That is an awesome responsibility.
I try to take utmost caution when considering any sire or dam in a mating with knowledge of the backgrounds of every dog in the pedigree going back at least 5+ generations of the parents.

*sigh* Thanks again for the replies regarding the registration and the PMs I have reveived as well.:)

You can't honestly be surprised that you got that advice when you put that the puppy was 2lbs. No offense intended, but if you only wanted to know about the puppy's registration you should have just asked about it. However, you should thank the experienced breeders for their advice when the size of the sire raised a red flag to them. No one would want to start out on the wrong foot

I agree the weight of the male should have been omitted if you were just concerned about registration then you should have really expected the opinions you got when you leave it open to both "registration" and "breeding a 2 pound yorkie". Especially since I saw nothing rude in any post just opinions. JMO.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Ok, apparantly I dont have a brain stem, no surprise to anybody who knows me :rolleyes: but I too would like to know how a small male could be hurt.
Are you talking about the larger female physically attacking. Im sorry, I dont get it.