Does anyone's dog use both pads and go outside?
 

Max has now decided that he only wants pee outside. He began this himself while I was retaining him to paper. He just started going outside, I certainly wasn't going to stop him, and now won't go on the paper. He went last night at 8:00 PM. He woke me at 7:00, I put him on the paper and he wouldn't go. He was making his morning pee on the paper until today. I finally took him out and he went right away. Poop is still saved for the house in the vicinity of the paper.

Ideally, I'd like him to use the paper in the morning, in emergencies and late at night. We live in a 6th floor apartment in NYC and it's not like I can just open the door and run outside with him. (Although I just put as long coat on over my pajamas this morning).

Am I dreaming, is this possible, does anyone do it, and, if so, how?

Please enlighten me. He's leashed or crated 24/7 because he was marking before and after he was neutered and I have to tell you - his urination habits are just not that interesting. I'd love to have a realistic goal and then work towards it.

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Anyway, any advice about both paper and outsided training would be appreciated. I'm so bored with where, when and how often he pees. Thanks so much,

Judy

My 2 boys use both. The only bad thing is they mistake throw rugs for pads sometimes. Also, when they go outside, it's to play. They do potty when they go out, but they NEVER just go out, potty, and come back in. It's all about smelling and playing. There are pro's and con's. Indiana weather is unpredictable. I'm glad they do both. I do have problems with them marking sometimes. I'm in the market for some belly bands to try out. If I can control the marking - I'm happy with the situation. Some people think potty pads are gross, but they are convenient.

i do both.. i try and walk lexi as much as possible..i still praise her to no end when she pottys outside and inside..

Lily does both too. My husband wants to get rid of the pads, but it is convenient when it rains, etc. She tends to go outside more often, but seems to leave the poop for the pads. She also mistakes throw rugs for pads sometimes too which is annoying. She basically does both pads and grass and I always thought that it was a little strange, but it's whatever...

We do both. It depends on the weather.

same here!
with the weather we've been having.. yesterday was the first time Kayah wennt outside in two weeks

Kodak is an outside dog but he may use the pads on the days where he is here all day.

Poor thing! The 6th floor is pretty high at 7 in the morning! Well I don't know if boys are different with their pee habits? My Vixxen has started to "like" peeing outside but she will do both. It has become our routine to go outside first thing in the morning and then whenever I think about it during the day...but she still uses the pee pad.
What if you put the pee pad in an x-pen area and make him stay until he pees? At least in the morning?

I thought MY dogs were the only ones that "mistaken" throw rugs for pee pads!! AND I have to shut my bathroom doors because they will sneak in there and use those rugs!! Little devils!

My three are pad trained, although I am praying that once we get the new fencing up early this spring, that they will try and go outside more. If not, as long as they keep using their pad, that will be okay. I just thought if I could get them to go outside too, it would cut the cost down on pee pads.

that AND that darn toilet paper!! you would think.. if they like it so much maybe they're all trying to tell us to train them to use the toilet?:confused:

Ozzie does both, too. Almost always will go once outside but that's never his primary objective. More interested in playing with and smelling everything.

Had some BAD marking experiences the first year or two and but he got fairly consistent about peeing on the papers. When we took them up, he peed where they used to be ... so we returned them. Have never been able to successfully turn him to outside only and finally just caved.

Every once in a while he will mark if he's mad about something. And sometimes, you have to remind him to "go in on your potty" and he will. At night, if he sleeps with one of us, he will kiss you if he needs to go. Doesn't happen often though. We just set him down and he goes in on his papers.

We're just thankful he uses the papers now. It works for him and for us, so why make each other miserable over it? ;)

I used to live in a small duplex and my two only used paper until a year ago when I moved into a house with a big yard. Now they want nothing to do with paper and love going in the yard. Unfortunately Peanut also likes carpet every now and again, but will not go on the linoleum or tile.

I Have Just Now Taken The Last Of The Wee Pads Away - Harvey Just Goes Outside Now - Unless I Go Visiting And He Then Uses The Pad.

I Agree About The Sniffing And Messing Around Though - Instead Of Just Doing His Business...... - Unless It Is Raining And Then He Just Goes Real Quick, So He Can Go Back Inside. He Does Now Go On Command A Lot More - He Is Learning......

It Is A Problem For You Being On A Higher Floor Level Though - Good Luck.......

mine do both too....:)

So it can be done! Good news. Now - how to convince Max of this fact?

I have him leashed right now because he's still peeing in illegal spots, so he needs to know that Mommy has her eyes on him all of the time. He peed under a chair in the kitchen today - there was a pee pad 3 inches away. He spent 2 hours in the crate after I yelled like mad woman. I know you're not supposed to yell, but he can know that THE BOSS (me) does not approve.

Anyway, since he's leashed anyway, I have left him leashed surrounded by about 5 or 6 papers and he will hold it for hours. He's always been able to hold it for up to 8 hours. The vet said it's okay. Maybe I should just leave him there until he just goes in the morning. This morning I gave in and took him out because I had to be somewhere at 10 AM and I had to crate him before I left.

I know that going outside and inside only on the paper is probably very confusing for him. What really annoys me are two things - he was completely paper trained before he went into puberty and I know that some of this is just his trying to be dominant.

Thanks for your support. Any advice would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Judy

Right after I signed off from YT last night, I put out about 7 pee pads, leashed him so that he was in the middle of them and he immediately peed! Then, (miracle) about 5 minutes later he pooped on one of the papers. I gave him so many treats, sang, danced, kissed, and carried on that he began to look at me funny.

I left the papers down and as soon as he cried in his crate this morning, I took him and leashed him in the same spot. 2 minutes later, he peed! As a reward, he was allowed, still leashed, to hang out in bed with mommy for about an hour.

We came into the kitchen and he was acting like he had to go so I releashed him in the paper area and he peed in the only spot that had no paper. It was right next to the papers and he looked really confused so even though I crated him as punishment, I let him out in about 20 minutes. The papers are all still down from yestrerday because I want the strong odor there, but it is so gross!

I'm going to take him out at about 1:00. He usually pees right away or goes to one of three spots to pee. If it's cold, he's running inside before me.

If this works, I'll be one happy woman! If not, I'll still get used to going outside and still be one a little bit less happy woman. I can't let it get me crazy, but I sure will try to have it my way.

By the way, I got rid of all of my area rugs, including my bathmat. As far as he was concerned, they were simply giant pee pads and I couldn't be bothered trying to get the smell out. He's not really allowed in my bedroom where there are area rugs, a pillow area on the floor - pee heaven!

I also sent for the fabric pee pads from Beyond Spoiled. She's having a sale.
I like the idea that they retain his smell no matter how often I wash them, and I'm tired of spending money on pee pads.

Judy