I neither show or breed my pet. But I have begun to limit my post due to the remarks and "tone" I have received lately. Well said post, I agree.

well said.:thumbup:

I agree, and well said!!!

thank you for the job you do, you do it very well

I agree, well said!

I too quit responding because of negative remarks some time back. I read and learn and I love this forum so much. We all make mistakes and from our mistakes we learn. Thank you for the reminder.

Mollymae and Abbi's Mom

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo: Thank you so much for this reminder - you do such a great job here Kimberly. Everyone should read this post over and over again, until it REALLY sinks in!!! :thumbup:

:thumbup: What a great post!!

I totally agree! Thanks for trying to remind this to all members.
I haven't been here for that long, but I know how much I knew when I joined and how much I know now thanks to all the information I was able to gather here. I see how some new members are attacked sometimes and I feel really bad. I know about the forbidden words and topic, and it gets repetitive sometimes to inform the new members, but I would say, if you are not patient enough to share your knowledge with love, just don't post a reply. The funny thing is that the members that have been here the longest are the ones that have more pacience, and the once that have been around for not that long are the "attackers". When you read something that goes against our thoughts: take a biggg breath, think, and think once again, and then type!

i think sometimes things can be taken in the wrong way as we cant hear a tone of voice, we just read words and take it the way we THINK it was written and sometimes its wrong.
i also think sometimes different countrys have different views due to what WE think is normal or not and should remember just cos are country doesnt allow this or that dont attack another cos they do, ie tail docking is always a heated topic, in the uk we dont do it anymore so when we see a post about it it can get are backs up as its now the norm not to do it but we should remember that we use to do it and we didnt bat an eye to it when it was the norm then, ive learnt this on here.
when ive had a heated debate on things and i think the person may of taken what ive said the wrong way ive sent the person a pm and explained how i ment it and cleared things up with them:)
things at times will always get a bit heated on here as we all protect are babies, you just try telling a mum that her child has got big ears and see what happens lol:D

Thank you. I think it's been time for a reminder for quite a while now.


Well said.

This has happened to me. When i asked a question on the breeder forum because i didnt no the height of my dog ud have thought that id smacked someone on the face. The reply that i got was sarcastic and rude. I showed to my husband in he was a bit shocked. I have 2 girls and love them deeply, and i dont think that i should have to no every in and out of the breed to own them. My 2 girls were both bought of people who no longer wanted them Missy was 2 and boots was 16weeks ive giving them a very good home and if i ask a simple question i dont think that i should be blasted for it. Now thats that out of me system lol. :) :thumbup: P.s Ilove the forum and most people are lovly and very helpful

off topic, but then why must you "donate" to participate in anything?

:yeahthat: :bravo: :bravo: :good job: :clapsmile :clapsmile :mademyday :goodpost: great job this is exactly how i feel way to go!!!!!!:thumbup:

One question I posted earlier on got a bit of a harsh response from someone and so I looked at some of the other posts that person did and I realized it wasn't my problem. It didn't stop me from continuing to post because the majority of everyone here is wonderful. Brissy is my first dog but I am no dummy and have read many books, literature ect on these babies. I have asked many questions from others more experienced than me. I feel I have, at times, something valid to contribute to the group. I also have many questions that all of you have helped me with. One thing I do know is just like having human babies lots of people have strong opinions about what is best for them and some people are not open to anything that is not in their personal manual. That's just some people's nature. All of our babies are wonderful and special and so are we because we love them so very much and want the best life for them and with them. This forum is just another extention of our devotion to them.
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I agree - it's sometimes upsetting to read some of the negative comments. Sometimes people should think of how they'd feel getting the same negativity thrown at them.

here here.... this isn't the place for anything negative... we love our babies and lets just all help eachother out!

There does seem to be a strong mindset among some, that all yorkies should be perfect. if that were the case and only perfect yorkies were bred, the cost for yorkies would double or tripple.

I understand that the ideal situation would be to keep the breed perfect, but that's not gonna happen. They puppy mills are pouring poor quality yorkie into the market wevery day, and the unfortunate souls that can't afford to buy the perfect yorkie are falling victim to them.

I know I will take a whipping for this, but:

IMO if there were more pet quality yorkies being produced by honest small or (BYB as some of you refer to them) it might do more to put the rlarge puppy mills out of business then all the legislation that is out there.

Some people just want a yorkie, they don't care if it's doesn't have the perfect coat. And those are the ones that get taken by the puppy mills.

I personally would like to see an ad that stated this yorkie is not going to be perfect but it will give you just as much love as any show dog.

:thumbup: Thank you for all your hard work!!!!!! I know it can't be easy!!



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Given.

Do it or not.

I have spent my life, helping animals.

point taken. Or not.

:thumbup: :goodpost: Excellent Post!!!! Well said!!!! :clapsmile

Well I have been attacked and I have become the attacker
Thank you for reminding me why I love this place
to learn, to enjoy, to brag, to YAK, to cry, to laugh, to say AH,
to have fun, to love, to send hugs,prayers, and to meet all of you and the FURBABIES
THANK YOU EVERYONE you all have made me a better person

Great Post! Great job SimonandHallie.... you do a super job here....
Thanks for what you do!
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How wonderfully true!!!!
thanks Jeanie, for the message ...

Thank you. I love this forum.

Exactly...thats what we are all here for support and information and Yorkies :p I agree that this forum has taught me a lot and made me a better Yorkie owner/brreder and person!!

Thanks Kimberly. Do you ever get to sleep or do you spend all your waking hours monitoring? ;)

Everyone is not as knowledgable as others or experienced. Those that are need to realize that at some point they too were in the newbie spot posing the "dumb" questions, and I'm guessing that most of that knowledge came from a learning experience. Aking questions no matter how off they may be is how people learn and become knowledgable so they don't make the wrong choice with their furbabies and can teach others. Try to educate and not lecture or criticize. Would you rather they not ask and possibly cause injury or harm their dog?

Thanks for all of your hard work as a moderator. I have learned almost everything I know about Yorkies from YorkieTalk.com. Whenever I need advice or have a problem, I immediately come here for help.

By the way Jeannie, your idea is wonderful! I don't want to breed or show and would have been thrilled to have been able to buy a dog bred to be "just a pet," from a reputable breeder who avertised that.

Judy

I can see there are however, still a lot of misconceptions about show breeders etc although I have posted this info numerous times. First there is no perfect Yorkie, there is no perfect representative of any purebred dog. Anyone immersed in the world of purebred dogs, knows that information. The purpose of breeding in the show world is to strive to breed as close to the standard as you can.
Simply, a show breeder can plan a mating but the litter may not have a prospective show dog in it and often there may be one or two that are, but one or two that aren't and are sold to pet homes for that loving little pet you are all talking about. You get a nice quality pet, just not what a show breeder would want for the show rings. IF you are dealing with a reputable show breeder, you would get genetic guarantees they will honour, they will be available to help you 24/7, put you through extensive interviews to be sure that dear little pup is indeed getting a good home. They are going to have contracts to ensure you aren't going to breed it as they are protecting their lines and the breed. You have to be sure even if it is a show breeder that the person is a reputable one, those are the kind of things you should be looking for in a breeder you are buying from. If you want to breed, you are going to have to do the whole drill, not just market puppies. Do you seriously think the reputable show breeder is not concerned about the pet home that little puppy goes to they may sell for pet? Darn right they are, that's why they have the contracts they do and will protect that puppy to find the best home possible for it.
Okay, now for what you call the byb or backyard breeder already brought up in this thread. As there is no perfect Yorkie, does that give poetic license to a byb to breed representatives so far from the standard that they end up producing pups that barely look like YOrkies when they attain adulthood?
Well, how about that backyard breeder who has a couple of females or more, a male or two, produces several litters in the year and needs to sell their puppies quickly so advertise anywhere, sell to anyone so they are out of the way before the next litters are due? They are not considered a puppymill as they don't have many many dogs and puppies or at least not to the best of your knowledge, and are kept clean maybe but obviously being bred to make money and what other options do they decide on to get those puppies sold?
How about health guarantees? Are they honoured? What about the breeding stock? HOw much do they actually know about the background going back several generations and what kind of genetic or health issues there may have been in say the last five generations.
There is another factor that likely those of you that are not in show world are not aware of. In the show world, we are very protective of the breed and show dogs in general. That means there is little that anyone does that the whole free world and most of the not so free world, doesn't know about usually the same day the event happened or the incidence was leaked by someone somewhere.
Why? In some cases, perhaps there is little over zealous judging going on especially you will think so if you don't understand or see the whole picture.
Basically, it boils down to that the reputable show breeder would lay down their life if they could and have to protect the breed and their dogs. That's passion for the breed and for their line.