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Amber_lv 01-21-2007 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki
I think we all know you're not the "pity party" type gal. :) I just feel for you, and I don't have an answer for you. Talk to your Vet again, he will have answers for you, and hopefully put your mind at ease.....
thank you for your support sometimes i don't know what i would do without you guys

Pipersmommy 01-21-2007 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by red98vett
Hey Amber...please don't lose your mind over this sweetie - this could be alot worse - Giardia is treatable - you're getting treatment - so you'll have it under control soon - I'd be upset too but I don't like seeing you cry :(

I've had NO experience with Giardia - but it's more common than people realize - and you just need to be very careful and be on the lookout for the signs - and maybe always have to watch her for flareups -

I did find this site on Carrier dogs and Giardia - it may help you - http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0119.htm
Great site, I didn't know they were a carrier for life, but it does go dormat & you may never see a flare up again. Although if a female becomes pregnant, it can pass on to the pups. Interesting, no wonder so many pups have gotten it. When we got Piper she had it also. Took about 3 weeks to get her better. She has been fine since. That was about 7 months ago.

red98vett 01-21-2007 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv
thanks everyone i am trying to be calm now. i am reading the links thanks V i will call my vet tomarrow and ask a million questions i am not going to wait a full month for the next poop sample i will have both of them teated in a week. I just feel so bad for her she crys all the time because she wants to play but i can't let her out i let them eat from the same bowl but i think i will stop that and just put food in the baby play pen i keep her in.
awwww...poor baby - this will clear up and you're doing your best - and we're here for you - I know I'd be really upset too - but try not to stress too much - for your own sake as well as theirs - they love you and don't want to see you cry mom !!!

hugs & hang in there Amber -

Edited to add - and see - Pipersmom has experience ....you aren't alone !! It sounds very similar to coccidia - but harder to treat....

Yano 01-21-2007 05:22 PM
Keep you chin up!
 
Your poor little one. I did a bit of reading and this seems helpful:
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=739

It describes good hygiene methods for animals/humans to prevent infection. I would ask your vet about your yard regarding preventing future infections, since your dog must elimate there.

Good luck I hope your little one can be cured! In humans it can be cured quite easily but can make children quite sick, and is problematic for those who are pregnant.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasi....htm#treatment

Just work with your vet, and I'm sure things will work out!

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yano
Your poor little one. I did a bit of reading and this seems helpful:
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=739

It describes good hygiene methods for animals/humans to prevent infection. I would ask your vet about your yard regarding preventing future infections, since your dog must elimate there.

Good luck I hope your little one can be cured! In humans it can be cured quite easily but can make children quite sick, and is problematic for those who are pregnant.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasi....htm#treatment

Just work with your vet, and I'm sure things will work out!
Thanks that last link was great!:thumbup: Daisy does not show any signs of it thats why we were all so surprised she had it the only thing that i noticed was that her poop reeks and i mean make you pass out kinda smell a smell that should not come from any living thing lol. She is also very thin and bony and her poop is semi firm but on the outside it is sometimes kinda coated in like a watery sheet(not diarrhea) other than that she eats like a cow and plays normal.

Pipersmommy 01-21-2007 05:36 PM
Amber,
When I talked to my Vet & found out Piper had this intestinal disease, I was so upset also. Now I look at it as if she had a bad case of the flu. Misha never got this, so I'm not worried now. I didn't know they were a carrier for life, that means even if it isn't showing signs, or in the stool it could show up at a later time. Or pass it on to the pups if it's a female. After reading, it makes sense. I wouldn't worry to much about it. If you did deside to breed her in the future, just treat the pups. Maybe daisy got it from her mother, maybe that's why the breeder didn't know. Her mother carried it on to her pups. That's probably how Piper got it, since she was the only one sick.
Hang in there, it will turn out alright. It turned out ok here.

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-21-2007 05:36 PM
Oh my goodness Amber I am sooooooo sorry to hear that about you new baby, I read that you did contact the breeder but did she give you some type of health contract? I'm just sorry that you paid sooo much for this little pup and just to find out days later that it has something :( and now that adds more vets bills. Hang in there I don't know nothing about what Daisy has but I do hope it gets better.......Will say a prayer for ya'll tonight!! If you need someone to talk to feel free to PM me.

Pipersmommy 01-21-2007 05:37 PM
Amber,
When I talked to my Vet & found out Piper had this intestinal disease, I was so upset also. Now I look at it as if she had a bad case of the flu. Misha never got this, so I'm not worried now. I didn't know they were a carrier for life, that means even if it isn't showing signs, or in the stool it could show up at a later time. Or pass it on to the pups if it's a female. After reading, it makes sense. I wouldn't worry to much about it. If you did decide to breed her in the future, just treat the pups. Maybe daisy got it from her mother, maybe that's why the breeder didn't know. Her mother carried it on to her pups. That's probably how Piper got it, since she was the only one sick.
Hang in there, it will turn out alright. It turned out ok here.

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-21-2007 05:37 PM
never mind this post

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy
Amber,
When I talked to my Vet & found out Piper had this intestinal disease, I was so upset also. Now I look at it as if she had a bad case of the flu. Misha never got this, so I'm not worried now. I didn't know they were a carrier for life, that means even if it isn't showing signs, or in the stool it could show up at a later time. Or pass it on to the pups if it's a female. After reading, it makes sense. I wouldn't worry to much about it. If you did deside to breed her in the future, just treat the pups. Maybe daisy got it from her mother, maybe that's why the breeder didn't know. Her mother carried it on to her pups. That's probably how Piper got it, since she was the only one sick.
Hang in there, it will turn out alright. It turned out ok here.
That's what i'm thinking that the mom was a carrier and she didn't have symptoms so the breeder didn't know i am in contact with the other lady who bought a pup the same time i did and her pup doesn't have it. i will stay positive the only thing that worries me is how i will tell when she has a flare up because she has it so bad right now with no symptoms. You are my insperation today lol

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Yorkie~Mommy~
Oh my goodness Amber I am sooooooo sorry to hear that about you new baby, I read that you did contact the breeder but did she give you some type of health contract? I'm just sorry that you paid sooo much for this little pup and just to find out days later that it has something :( and now that adds more vets bills. Hang in there I don't know nothing about what Daisy has but I do hope it gets better.......Will say a prayer for ya'll tonight!! If you need someone to talk to feel free to PM me.
Thank you so much i am so touched by you all. it is a little on the expensive side to keep doing tests but it's worth it to get rid of it

Lucy Lu 01-21-2007 05:46 PM
When I got my second yorkie she was infected with coccidia. I had never even heard of it. It was just too difficult to keep her isolated from our other yorkie and beagle so I just practiced good hygiene and gave her her medicine religiously. Then when the medicine was done as a precaution I had all three dog's feces tested and no one else had contracted it. I think the thought that bodies carry things for life can just alarm us mentally when actually we are carriers of many things for life that never harm us again like for example chicken pox. Just be glad with treatment it can be managed and not be serious. The breeder I purchased my yorkie from actually informed me of the condition at the time of sale and I still chose to purchase her because I was not afraid of the condition after a little studying.

Yano 01-21-2007 05:49 PM
Glad...
 
I'm glad to be of help! I know this isn't a nice situation for you, but most likely things will go back to normal. This is quite a common parasite and most vets are able to deal with it. Sorry I haven't had first hand experience, but I'm sure other YT'ers have. Hang-in-there!

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Yano
I'm glad to be of help! I know this isn't a nice situation for you, but most likely things will go back to normal. This is quite a common parasite and most vets are able to deal with it. Sorry I haven't had first hand experience, but I'm sure other YT'ers have. Hang-in-there!
I am feeling a little better now thanks everyone!

LuvtheCooper 01-21-2007 08:00 PM
Just to chime in with my experience...Cooper had it too when I got him...only could tell from the poop sample, no diarrhea or anything like that. We had him on treatment and we have never seen it again, no flare ups here. He tested negative for it fairly quickly too. So it seems really bad at first, but really it's not THAT bad. Our vet told us they can get it from streams or puddles of water or creeks, so never let them drink from these water sources. It will get better ;)

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvtheCooper
Just to chime in with my experience...Cooper had it too when I got him...only could tell from the poop sample, no diarrhea or anything like that. We had him on treatment and we have never seen it again, no flare ups here. He tested negative for it fairly quickly too. So it seems really bad at first, but really it's not THAT bad. Our vet told us they can get it from streams or puddles of water or creeks, so never let them drink from these water sources. It will get better ;)
Thank you that gives me hope. Did your vet say his poop would be forever contaminated(like could pass to other dogs)?

Annuta 01-21-2007 09:02 PM
I am so sorry that you are going through this ordeal, Amber. For those who don't know, I also got a puppy from this breeder, and thankfully he's fine. I will have the vet check the poop again when I bring him in for his rabies shot, just to make sure.

After reading about giardia, it seems that the mother had it and passed it on to the puppies in her litter. This would explain why other puppies don't have it. I am sure that your little girl will be ok, Amber. Just hang in there and get some anti-bacterial soap in the meantime to make sure that you don't accidentally infect your babies (the two-legged ones :) ). I think it's also a good idea to get one of those soap-less antibacterial hand creams/whipes.

Please keep us updated on this.

Amber_lv 01-21-2007 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Annuta
I am so sorry that you are going through this ordeal, Amber. For those who don't know, I also got a puppy from this breeder, and thankfully he's fine. I will have the vet check the poop again when I bring him in for his rabies shot, just to make sure.

After reading about giardia, it seems that the mother had it and passed it on to the puppies in her litter. This would explain why other puppies don't have it. I am sure that your little girl will be ok, Amber. Just hang in there and get some anti-bacterial soap in the meantime to make sure that you don't accidentally infect your babies (the two-legged ones :) ). I think it's also a good idea to get one of those soap-less antibacterial hand creams/whipes.

Please keep us updated on this.
Thank you i am so glad your baby didn't have it! I'm going to email Reda and ask her if the other puppies from this litter have it. i wash, wash ,wash lol i'm so paranoid lol.

Amber_lv 01-22-2007 09:30 AM
well i called the vet today and he is calling me back when he gets in the office i will post what he says a little later

LuvtheCooper 01-22-2007 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv
Thank you that gives me hope. Did your vet say his poop would be forever contaminated(like could pass to other dogs)?
No, my vet never mentioned flare ups or anything of the kind. Just told me I had to be extra careful in cleaning up after him until it was cleared up. She did say that this wasn't uncommon and told me about streams and creeeks and the like and to always be careful of not letting him drink out of those or any standing water. She did say it was highly contagious for other dogs, but studies were unclear wether dogs passed it to humans, but just to be on the safe side to always wash our hands thoroughally. We didn't have other dogs at the time, so we didn't have as difficult a time as your having.

boo"s mommy 01-22-2007 12:02 PM
Amber so very sorry! but everything will be great she will be able to be out and about in no time then peeka & boo & daisy will be playing in no time have faith ok hang in there we love you and the puppy's :) :yorkiesar

prettypuppypink 01-22-2007 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv
so after they test negative to you still have to pick up the poop and worry about them transferring it to other dogs? Thank you for your reply. i did ask the vet about the freezing and they told me to pick it up anyway but i can't pick it up right when she goes i have to take her in clean her and so on so it freezes and i have to chizel it out and i can't always get it all
After they test negative you don't have to worry about it. I wouldn't pick it up frozen either. I think it's not necessary. I have a poop eater, my Mi-Ki and he can't eat nor is attracted to frozen poop, no scent. Since I have had 3 dogs arrive with Giardia over a 6 year period, I consider it normal and expect it. However, none ever had any symptoms which is better then a full blown messy Giardia infestation and they never got it again.
Everything will be alright.

Amber_lv 01-22-2007 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by prettypuppypink
After they test negative you don't have to worry about it. I wouldn't pick it up frozen either. I think it's not necessary. I have a poop eater, my Mi-Ki and he can't eat nor is attracted to frozen poop, no scent. Since I have had 3 dogs arrive with Giardia over a 6 year period, I consider it normal and expect it. However, none ever had any symptoms which is better then a full blown messy Giardia infestation and they never got it again.
Everything will be alright.
Thank you so much it really makes me feel so much better i have been so stressed about it. i called my vet office earlier and one of the staff asked a vet about itmy vet wasn't in yet and i wanted to get her poop tested in a week they told me i should wait a month before doing another sample. My vet wasn't in yet so i am waiting for him to call me back. have you heard of this stuff the put her on it's Praz+Pyrant+Feba? How long did you wait after the meds to retest/ Thank you again so much!!

Amber_lv 01-22-2007 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by boo"s mommy
Amber so very sorry! but everything will be great she will be able to be out and about in no time then peeka & boo & daisy will be playing in no time have faith ok hang in there we love you and the puppy's :) :yorkiesar
Thanks Mom i don't know what i would do with out your support

Amber_lv 01-22-2007 05:16 PM
Ok i just got off the phone with the vet and he said not all dogs will be carries some does carry it some don't. i told him how i don't pick up the poop in my yard and he said i need to change my way of thinking he said whether it's in you yard or not you should pick it up because diesease is so easily spread that way whether a dog is infected or not. He also told me that i should let her out of the play pen and be social so i will lol:thumbup: :D (no prob with that) he also said i have to wait a month to do another stool sample so i have a shot appt for her on the 1st of feb and her and Peeka will have their poop tested then. Thank you all for your support in this. I am so happy to hear this news that it is curable.

Hokule'a 01-22-2007 05:29 PM
OMG, you've had a rough couple days:( So glad that others on here were able to give you advice and encouragement. And yaaay - Daisy is out of quarantine:) You'll get through this soon and be able to help others when they get hit with it - so hang in there!

JeanieK 01-22-2007 06:09 PM
Amber
I just now read this thread. I'm glad it is sounding more encouraging for you. I know how news like that can just seem so overwheliming. I'm glad the others on here were able to help you put things in perspective.

I had no idea this was so common. We all need to be more careful about community dog areas such as dog parks and interstate rest areas.

As for the frozen poop. I have an ice scraper to loosen it if it freezes down too quickly. How about using as baggy to pick it up as soon as she goes, turn the bag inside out then scoop her up and go back inside.

I hope all test are clear.

Pipersmommy 01-23-2007 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv
Ok i just got off the phone with the vet and he said not all dogs will be carries some does carry it some don't. i told him how i don't pick up the poop in my yard and he said i need to change my way of thinking he said whether it's in you yard or not you should pick it up because diesease is so easily spread that way whether a dog is infected or not. He also told me that i should let her out of the play pen and be social so i will lol:thumbup: :D (no prob with that) he also said i have to wait a month to do another stool sample so i have a shot appt for her on the 1st of feb and her and Peeka will have their poop tested then. Thank you all for your support in this.

I am so happy to hear this news that it is curable.
Me to! After reading that it wasn't. I'm glad your getting Daisy out of her pen. Like I said after a few days on meds Misha & Piper were playing. I just picked up the poo so Misha couldn't get by it. If anyone was going to get it, it would have been me. Piper was full of poo when I got her home from the airport. I put her right in the tub & gave her a bath. I had it all over me. I never caught it.

baby03 01-23-2007 08:48 AM
Amber I just caught this thread! I am so sorry you are going through this sweetie! It looks like things are getting better! I don't have any experience with it, but I hope and pray Daisy is better soon.


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