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They may not look OR act at all like him! So that reason is one of the dumbest ones I ever hear given for wanting to breed. And please forgive me Amber if that sounded mean. :p I'm not saying you should or shouldn't breed, and hey, I'll come out of the closet along with you....it is something that we eventually want to get into, but I'm putting a lot of long and careful thought into it first, and getting a lot of advice. I'm sure when/if I ever do decide to do so, I'll get flack for it, so I don't mean to come off that way to YOU. I just think you should rethink your motives if THAT is the only reason you want to breed him. And one thing is for sure....he is ADORABLE!!! :D Oh, and PS honey-chile...You have GOT to wait longer than 10 minutes before getting frustrated and feeling like noone is answering you! :D This is a bulletin board, not a chat room! :D |
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i think your posting was a good idea. i highly doubt you would do anything that would put your baby in a bad position. This is just something that is on your mind and you were hoping for some informative information one way or the other. your researching and part of researching is getting opinions and information from other yorkie owners and what better place to do it then on a yorkie forum. i really wish people here would be nicer and more open minded. Nothing you said made me think that you were a bad owner or 'stupid' for considering studding your pup. i was thinking of breeding morgan too for reasons i'm not going to reveal, but decided to spay her instead because of her tiny size. as much as i wanted puppies, i researched and asked around, and came to the conclusion that morgan would never be big enough to breed and she had some other traits that weren't 'standard' for the breed. |
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Since you said" i really want to have another Yorkie as calm and sweet as he is, " this led me to think that was the main reason you wanted to breed. Some of us think this is a poor reason because while temperament is a heredity factor, for example you should never breed a bad tempered dog, the article you sited states: "The inheritance factors of temperament are complex." Puppies get genes from both parents and there are dominant and recessive genes. Puppies in the same litter often have very different temperaments. No breeder can duplicate a dog. I also think it's a little disconcerting that you seem so impatient, as if it was extremely important to get this show on the road. Not a great trait in a breeder. Also, many genetic defects can't be identified until the puppy is at least one year old. In addition, I think breeders have to develop extremely thick skins! Nancy |
I used to want to breed Hobbs for the exact same reasons you do...I wanted another yorkie and I wanted one as much like Hobbs as possible. I did lots of research but eventually decided against it. My aunt and uncle are breeders...not yorkies...but other breeds. I talked to them extensively and my vet and they both told me that if you breed your male, his personality will definately change...he will hump, mark, become aggressive, ect. Even though Hobbs' breeder wasn't the BEST breeder in the world, I ultimately decided to just contact her and get another puppy from the same parents as I got Hobbs from. Hootie is Hobbs full sister. I had Hobbs neutered. I am so happy with my decision. Hobbs is the same loving, sweet little boy he was the day I brought him home. I never see his red rocket, he never humps, and he still squats to pee. There are just so many things that change in males when you breed them and you really have to consider these things. Peeka is not going to be the same dog he is right now after you breed him. Try contacting your breeder and just chat with her and see if she may have more puppies from Peeka's parents. At least weigh all your options. |
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You're right that we are told to look at the parents for an IDEA of looks/temperament, but that's just a starting place. How many tiny dogs throw large pups, and shy dogs throw sociable pups, etc? If your dog has great qualities that's a good STARTING place, but there is absolutely no guarantee that ANY of his pups will be ANYTHING like him. For one thing, the dam will introduce a whole NEW pool of genes into the equation. In fact, a friend of mine was just expressing to me how disappointed she was over this very thing....she had bred her dogs, and had HOPED that one would turn out like the father, and that just didn't happen in this particular litter. By the way, telling people not to post on a thread if they don't like it is sort of like saying, "Don't tell me anything I don't want to hear". And I don't think you really feel that way, or you WOULDN'T have posted here, because you knew you'd come in for some criticism. I'm just sorry you felt like that was coming from me, because I kinda put my own butt in the sling out there with you in order to express good will. Good luck making your decision. PS...I do think you were being a little impatient on both threads, waiting for replies :D, but I didn't mean "HONEY, CHILL" I did mean "honey chile", as in "honey child". I'm from the south. :D |
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I don't think anyones thinking less of you. I don't. This is a question that probably comes across many pet-owners minds, so I think it's great you posted about it. :thumbup: |
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My use of the word "stupid" was flippant, and I was counting on all the smilies in the message to convey the intent that I was posting with. But I guess that hit the wrong note with you right off the bat, and colored the way you heard the rest of my message. I should have used the word "misguided" or something. Read it again, and maybe you'll see that I was aligning myself WITH you more than AGAINST you. I have some of the same decisions to work through. When I was talking about doing my research before thinking about breeding, I was ACKNOWLEDGING that that was what you were doing as well, and that is great. However, you did state at least twice in this thread (and I haven't followed the other one) that you wanted to breed to get a pup that would look and act like Peeka. I did think that fallacy needed to be addressed. |
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Ok what did I miss..She has a male.. First she has to find a female to breed ! Then can he.. you know do it ...(reproduce)? And why are so many worried about this? The owner of the female has the last say..if she gets a puppy or just pay for stud service! SO WHAT DID I MISS???? I AM REALLY CONFUSED!!!!:doh34: BUT, NEVER MIND :hmmm33: LOL |
OK .. read some more..I still think I miss something??? But, come on people...some of you are upset because she whats to breed to get another YORKIE like the one she has!!! Give me a brake... I think there is nothing wrong with that...Honey you go for it!!!! If you feel it is right for you Even humans have another baby cause they want another one!!! I get so upset at people that think it should be one way only there way OR forget what the real QUESTION in the thread I'm ready and P.M.Ssssssssss come on |
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I think you have a nice looking little guy there and you should know whether he has any genetic problems in his bloodlines that have ever shown up. I am not sure what the fuss is all about and why people have to make remarks when someone asks a question and wants to learn something. Neither of my males became aggressive and their personalities didnt change after I used them to breed. They are both the sweetest guys in the world. That is not to say it doesnt happen and I have not had alot of experience in breeding but my pups do tend to generally have the same temprements and qualities as the parents do. If you can find a good quality female and you are just going to keep the pups, then go for it. At least you are trying to learn and that is better than alot of people that just throw any dogs togehter and them come on and say help I think my yorkie is pregnant.....What do I do? Dont get to irrated when people do give you advice tho. They are just trying to answer the question that you asked and obvioulsy wanted answers for. It is not fair to jump on them if you dont like their answer. Just take the info offered and make your own decision. JMHO Good luck. Barb |
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