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koolbreeze 12-19-2006 07:05 PM

?about meeting a breeder half way
 
if ya'll were to call someone who had yorkies and she wanted to meet half way because she was already meeting someone eles in the same spot would you do it and why?

Grayson's mom 12-19-2006 07:11 PM

I would want to check out her place to see the dogs in action, plus you would be able to see mom and dad that way. Will you be able to spend time with the pups?

Oh and WELCOME to YT

Nancy1999 12-19-2006 07:16 PM

I might be tempted, but it's so important to see how they are raised and the mom and dad. I think I would want to meet at her house a few days earlier; that way you won't feel the competition from the other buyer as much.
Nancy

koolbreeze 12-19-2006 07:23 PM

thats what my husband said. its just a long drive and there is no way i would be able to make it twice. hubby works a lot and he wouldn't let me go by myself :2hearts2: oh well i guess i'll have to look else where. thanks!

Yorkiesforever 12-19-2006 07:24 PM

I would not do it. I have drove 4 hours one way to LOOK at a yorkie. and 4 hours back just to LOOK. So no matter how far you will know if it is the right one. Plus I have to see the parents and want to know there personality looks attitude and just everything how there raised what there fed the enviroment.

Nancy1999 12-19-2006 07:29 PM

Aren't men stubborn sometime? Maybe you could negotiate something with him. :love:
Nancy

FlDebra 12-19-2006 07:32 PM

One lady I called pushed for that and I just decided against it. I worried that she did not want me to see the conditions they had been raised in.

LunasMomma 12-19-2006 08:06 PM

The really scary thing is that this could be a broker or miller:( Without seeing the home and parents, there's no way of knowing. I wouldn't really trust anyone that didn't totally grill the buyer, either, as they should care where their puppies are going.

I'd pass. You'll find a Yorkie, just hang in there:love:

Bnot 12-19-2006 08:10 PM

No way would I meet anyone to look at pups anywhere but their home. I definitely want to see where the pups been raise. Most breeders want you to come to their house to see puppies.

Also meeting her 1/2 way, if you don't like the pup, you will feel like you have to take it anyway because she went through the trouble.

I smell puppy mill here.

jrsygal37 12-19-2006 08:20 PM

Meeting someone for a puppy makes me nervous. When I first joined and was looking for another Yorkie pup, I had a member here want to meet me at a McDonalds to do business. Her reasoning was that her house was 1. hard to find and 2. that she don't like doing business at her home because she's afraid that the prospective buyer is just someone trying to stake her house out. I just think it sounds too shady to me. Makes me wonder if the pups were actually her pups that she bred or if she bought them from a puppymill and selling them as her own (or) that her place and parents are so badly kept that she just don't want anyone to see. I'd def. want to go to the home of where the pups and parents are and see how the parents are kept etc. Just my .02. Happy Holidays everyone. Elaine

Kodak 12-19-2006 08:28 PM

I spoke to a breeder here in Illinois and she would travel with the parents and the puppies. Her and her husband came to 2 different meeting places for you to choose and sign papers etc. You could then pick the puppy up from her home when ready, but she came to you first. She had been robbed in the past because robbers thought she had a lot of puppy money. The 2nd time, they took some puppies. So I can understand both sides of concern, but you still want to see the puppies surroundings.

chattiesmom 12-19-2006 08:31 PM

Unless there were some really unusual circumstances, I would drive to the breeder's home to look at the pups.

annaschaben 12-19-2006 08:34 PM

Alot of breeders are leary of having people at their house for a number of reasons. I've heard of breeders showing puppies to some one and the phone will ring. They go to answer it and the person that came to look at the pups is gone with the pup. Also if you let people into your place you have no idea where their shoes have been and they might drag something in with them when they come in to the breeders.

When I got Roxy I met the lady half way. I had some references that I contacted before hand, and she only had a litter of pups available at the time, also only one breed. I check her web site often and she only has about 2 to 3 litters a year.

When I got Nicky I drove 9 hours 1 way and 9 hours back, bc I wanted to check things out.

My recommendation is to ask the breeder if you can contact their vet and the other person meeting them. Also see if they could provide some references.

Sugar's Mom 12-20-2006 05:27 AM

When I sold my puppy, i meet thee new owner about an hour and a half away from my home, next to the Interstate they were traveling on. They had an all day drive to get here and I felt that it would help them a lot if they could just get right back on the Interstate and head home instead of driving here to the country where I live. BUT, The new owner and I had talked several times by email and she is a member here and also another board that I am on and we felt like we knew each other. She knew exactly what she was getting, being a breeder herself.

chachi 12-20-2006 06:24 AM

The only way I would do this is if the breeder was a great distance and I was driving. I like to see the Mother and Father and where they were raised

Gracie2006 12-20-2006 06:26 AM

My breeder was a great distance away. I spoke with her enough before hand that I was comfortable in meeting her half way when I picked up Gracie. Trust your gut.

bdbmamaw 12-20-2006 07:17 AM

I'm a breeder and I don't want people coming to my house. Yorkies have been stolen in my area and I would be devastated if one of my babies was taken. I will meet someone halfway or a few miles from my home, and I will bring the mom and dad with me if they request it. I do send lots and lots of pictures of my pups and their parents and post them on my website, and I do DNA Certification on my males, as well as my females. So if anyone wants proof of who the parents are, a simple DNA test will confirm. I know of one woman in my area whoes male yorkie was stolen. Then she got a call asking how much the reward was and she had to pay $500 to get him back. (She was one of the lucky ones!) Most times you never see them again. I was watching the news this morning and a family had their home robbed last night. They took all the Christmas gifts and their yorkie! That's just wrong!!! So please don't judge a breeder too harshly if she doesn't want you coming to her home. See if they'll do DNA Certification, or give references.

prettypuppypink 12-20-2006 07:21 AM

I remember when a woman(breeder) was killed because someone came to her house who was supposedly interested in her puppy.

SweetCuteness 12-20-2006 07:32 AM

I could understand a breeder not wanting people to come to their home these days. It's unfortunate how many horrible stories there are. BUT, I wouldn't do it until I had spoke to the breeder several times and she brought the parents. Even then it would be iffy.

CO_yorkie_momma 12-20-2006 07:36 AM

I think sometimes it isn't all that strange to meet someone especially if you are headed that way anyway. I have met one couple at the Denver airport because I was there shipping a puppy that day and they live in Denver so it was convenient for them not to have to drive 4 hours to my house. I bring the parents with me also so they can see them. I let anyone come to me house to see the puppies but it is on a weekend when my husband is there and I am not alone. I wouldnt really like strangers showing up when I am there alone either. Also I dont let any come unless I am pretty sure they are interested in buying one because you never know if people are just asking to come see them so they can find out where you live. We have had alot of pets stolen around here and I dont trust just anyone.

Barb

Maizee Grace 12-20-2006 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma
I bring the parents with me also so they can see them.

That's nice that you take the parents with you. I think that would be the only thing holding me back from meeting half way. Sometimes pictures can be misleading, so it's nice to see them in real life. Like Gracie said though, you just kind of have to trust your gut :)

annaschaben 12-20-2006 09:15 AM

When we were looking for our latest Yorkie one lady we talked to wouldn't e-mail me pictures of the parents, bc she "kept them shaved and they wouldn't do the dogs justice" to me that was saying that the dogs weren't good enough to show to other people (I do know that she does breed and wasn't a scam). Therefore the pup wouldn't end up looking like I wanted it to.

I don't blame any breeder for not wanting people to come to their house. There are just too many bad people out there.

It could also be that the breeder is a really nice person and since she is going to be in the area is willing to bring your puppy with her. I know that when we had a litter that I was willing to meet people bc we live a long ways from anywhere, and if meeting with the person was the difference between them being able to get the puppy or not I was willing to help them out. Especially if it was to people I really liked.

TootiesMom 12-20-2006 09:23 AM

I met my breeder(Linda-lksdolls) at the airport in Pittsburg. I felt perfectly fine about getting Hope from here there because of the great references I had received and the many calls and emails between us.

I agree, that if I were a breeder, I wouldnt want people at my home. That is too scary. The world is full of crazy people...

Get to know your breeder, get references and you will know it is right.

Good luck,
d

Bnot 12-20-2006 06:52 PM

When I got both Venus and Adonis, I went to the breeders home. With Venus, the breeder brought all the pups in the yard, let me watch, check them out and play with them. Then she showed me the parents of the puppies, and the heated/ac kennel she kept her dogs in. Each one had a good 30 foot run on them and a doggie door to get there from the inside. I was highly impressed with her kennel.

I wasn't invited inside, till I picked out the puppy, and had my money out in my hand. We did go inside to do the paperwork.

Her husband was home, and he held my puppy till we got through with the paper work.

I would certainly hope breeders had someone else at home with them when showing thier dogs! Its only safe!

I very much appreciate her trusting me enough to invite me there, and I know how her dogs are very well taken care of. And if I ever want another yorkie, I know where to find her:D

koolbreeze 12-21-2006 10:36 AM

wow you all made some very valid points. trust i don't want to be sitting in anyones house any longer than they would want me there! if i were a breeder i wouldn't want anyone up in my house either.

but i went with someone closer. check for pics under the post of Troy.:D

judyeve 12-25-2006 08:23 AM

What a world this has become when a breeder has to be afraid to allow customers in his/her home! I wouldn't meet a breeder. I would want to see how the puppy was raised, the parents, the conditions, etc., but I certainly feel for the breeders. You must have at least one other person there and go over all of the security measures before you allow anyone into your house. Maybe as a breeder, you can only sell to people who are sent to you by people you know.

My hairdresser works out of her home and won't take on any new customers who aren't recommended by people whe knows and trusts.

This whole issue makes me sad.

Judy

rox626 12-25-2006 09:24 AM

It is sad when people can't trust each other but it's a fact of life. I got Debbie at her breeder's home from an ad in the newspaper. I saw her mother and father and sister. They told me that they had her grandparents (mother or father's, I don't know) at the home and did bring out Aunt Samantha. They lived in a beautiful town home and I assume that the Grandparents were in the garage but they didn't take me in there or bring them out so who knows what that was like.

Even with seeing what I did, can you really be sure the dogs that are introduced as the parents, really are? After all none of them can actually tell you that it's true or not. (Just stirring up the pot and adding in a dash of paranoia)

I think your safest bet no matter how you meet the puppy is to familiarize yourself with how a decently bred yorkie puppy is supposed to look at the age it is supposed to be. Size can differ but look for teeth and coat quality (hair length). If you've done your research, it will be very difficult to be taken for a sucker.

People that don't know better have been sold tiny puppies at very young ages, being told that they are older than they are. If they had known better, they would have known this puppy was only 6 weeks old rather than 10 or whatever. As far as papers go, there are lots of scam artists and if you don't know any better, it can be very easy to be scammed.

yorkieaddict 12-25-2006 10:23 AM

The more information you have the better, ask lots of questions. Sometimes you have to follow your head more than your heart. Each situation is different.
Good Luck.

judyeve 12-25-2006 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rox626
It is sad when people can't trust each other but it's a fact of life. I got Debbie at her breeder's home from an ad in the newspaper. I saw her mother and father and sister. They told me that they had her grandparents (mother or father's, I don't know) at the home and did bring out Aunt Samantha. They lived in a beautiful town home and I assume that the Grandparents were in the garage but they didn't take me in there or bring them out so who knows what that was like.

Even with seeing what I did, can you really be sure the dogs that are introduced as the parents, really are? After all none of them can actually tell you that it's true or not. (Just stirring up the pot and adding in a dash of paranoia)

I think your safest bet no matter how you meet the puppy is to familiarize yourself with how a decently bred yorkie puppy is supposed to look at the age it is supposed to be. Size can differ but look for teeth and coat quality (hair length). If you've done your research, it will be very difficult to be taken for a sucker.

People that don't know better have been sold tiny puppies at very young ages, being told that they are older than they are. If they had known better, they would have known this puppy was only 6 weeks old rather than 10 or whatever. As far as papers go, there are lots of scam artists and if you don't know any better, it can be very easy to be scammed.

Great post!

That makes so much sense. You really don't know if the dogs you're seeing are the parents (caught your paranoia I think). But doing the research and knowing what to look for is the wisest way to buy a dog. I bought Max from a pet store, and he could very well be a puppy mill dog. I made the mistake of going in "just to look and maybe hold one." I knew I wanted a yorkie and was going to do the research, etc., but wanted to see what the pups looked like. Needless to say, 2 hours after I held Max, he was living with me. Fortunately, he checked out healthy at my vet and has been fine since.
This is probablty the dumbest way to buy a dog, but I've been blessed and got lucky.

Judy


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