How awful is this!

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I have to agree! The 9 year old knows better. Something doesn't sound right. I have a 9 year old and I can say beyond a shawdow of a doubt that she would not have done that! Of course it is the grandmothers fault.However, I think the child also needs to be punished!!! I am sorry to hear all of this happened.

WELL SAID!!

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Well, I believe it is Gandma fault...if anyone is to blame...
I think some forgive-ness is needed here not finger pointing
How sad for all invovled ...VERY SAD...

After I posted I went back and read some of the responses. I have a very mature 9 year old. PLease don't assume that the maturity level of ALL 9 year olds are the same. That can vary just as much as the reading level. My daughter knows the difference between right and wrong. She also knows that you don't spray something like shoe spray on a dog! This 9 year old for whatever reason may not have know it was shoe spray. Just don't assume the same is for ALL 9 year olds.

the adult that was supposed to be tending to those kids & the dogs is totally responsible & should be held responsible! they should call local authorities and she should get held responsible! i believe a responsible child or adult would have cleaned up the poo not spray something to cover it up? those poor dogs must have suffered so that's cruelty as far as i can see!

I've re-read this thread several times and I, too believe the grandma is ultimately responsible. I'm in the same group that didn't believe in leaving children in the car when mine were little.

The money needs to be returned and a lesson learned for the greedy woman!

This whole thing made me sick to my stomach.:(

ah yes, now I remember once again why any puppy I sell is sold locally and spay/neutered before leaving, AND the new owner grilled to hilt before leaving and agreeing to sale with follow up visits and more.
I really wish people would find other means than breeding dogs to supplement their income.

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Apparently, grandma isn't the brightest crayon in the box.
Teri:animal-pa

I have a 9 year old, I would never leave him in the car by himself. He also would probably not understand that puppies have smaller lungs and can't breathe in things that bigger people can. The kid was 9, that's really young IMHO and it's not a matter of knowing 'right or wrong'. How would a 9 year old know that it would be poison to a pet? They wouldn't. You spend lots of time telling your kids about drugs but not that air fresh. or shoe spray will kill pets. Heck, half of America doesn't know that if you use a teflon pan(leave it on the stove too long, it emits fumes)it may kill birds! A responsible child left in a car with a dog that pooped wouldn't think to clean it up, what would they do with it? They of course, would try to cover the smell. Some 9 year olds are not as mature as other ones.

Whose to blame for this tragedy?

I don't think it matters. And - I don't believe anyone did anything deliberately to hurt any dog, puppy, or anyone else.

It is certainly very sad that it happened....heartbreaking.... And, of course, any deposits should be given back.


It's just a sad story. I can see any reason at all at this point to try and place blame. Hopefully, lessons were learned by everyone ---including a lot of us who are reading this sad story.

**** I do hope the poor little girl isn't made to feel responsible for what happened. Some of you may think she should have know better than to use a spray can that had something different in it than she thought was in it. But, believe me, working next to the ER for many years --- I can't tell you how many adults have made the same mistake with many different products.

Sad story.....

Carol Jean

How True As I asid S*** happens. sometimes there is no one to blame.

I too agree:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: It is too late to blame anyone, it is better to learn something positive out of this sad and tragic story. Blaming someone is not going to bring the poor puppies back :( :( It will only make the little girl feel guilty:( :(

I'm not close to the co-worker but I am to 2 of the people who put down deposits. The 3rd buyer is closer to the Parent & child, so she understood. I think she is giving deposits back now after all the hoopla.

Well, the child is feeling guilty even though she wasn't punished, because the mom felt she did nothing wrong. The Vet even walked out and said "now where's the little culprit who sprayed the dogs". I think he was trying to break the ice, but it got the girl upset and crying. They called my coworker who got real upset about this. She left the job to go curse out the vet and her mother for letting him say that to her child.:confused: I really think he was trying to break the ice since he had to come out and give them bad news. It was handled all wrong by all parties involved.

If all breeders followed those rules, situations like this could be avoided. Kudos to you! :)

When I say people can be touchy about their children, I zip my lips, some people can't handle constructive criticism. What you just said about your grandson is a behavior pattern her daughter had a few years back. She would tell us things at work and repeat things her daughter said to her. She was to grown up for her age. She's a quiet child, and people call them the sneakiest. So when this happened, we weren't surprised, I don't fully blame the child, but mom didn't really chastise her. She should've still been punished and wasn't because the mom was to busy feuding with the grandmother.

I blame the grandmother..the little girl didn't know what she was doing..and she was DEFINITALY at fault for leaving the dogs in the car and especially a 9 year old alone.

This is tragic, on many levels. I am sorry if the granddaughter was upset; but I do not believe she didn't know not to spray those puppies. She was 9!! The grandmother showed no sense in either letting that young dog breed, accident or not; and to see so little value in either her grandaughter or that little child as to leave them alone in the car. The tragedy was in her getting a dog in the first place . Sorry to be so harsh; but someone had to be responsible both for the child, and the puppies. She is lucky all she lost was the money from the deposits; she could have lost her grandchilds life.:thumbdown

This is a very sad situation. The grandmother is at fault for not being responsible watching her granddaughter or her own dogs.
I was a Special Ed teacher for 15 years and have seen all sorts of children.:eek:
Not knowing this particular child, I can't judge her actions as vindictive or immature. That the mother is treating this as no big deal concerns me, accident or not. I feel that this family has no business having pets.
I just felt sick after reading this earlier, some children have no remorse, time will tell. My girlfriend who is still a teacher says their school is having a no pets policy in the classrooms now because of the death of classroom pets caused by students:(

This is all so sad, and I feel the worst for the people who put deposits down and now will not get their expected furbaby. How heartbreaking!

Why are some of us so quick to judge with so little empathy or understanding.

A 9-year-old girl is quite grown up and responsible in many ways - but still a little girl in other ways.

Remember that this same mistake could have happened anyplace. The fact that it happened in a car doesn't mean that it couldn't have happened in the house.

I have a 9-year-old granddaughter. I know for a fact that if she had made this mistake and had hurt or killed any little dog or their puppies - she would be totally devastated. I mean this literally. She loves animals and is very sensitive - and I suspect that a lot of little girls are exactly this way.....and many adults for that matter. Any of us would be shattered if we accidentally killed or hurt any little dogs or puppes.

For this reason - I know for a fact - that we (my whole family) would be working hard to console my 9-year-old granddaughter if she had done this. I am sure it would take her a long long time to get over, and I know she wouldn't forget it the rest of her life.

I just can't imagine anyone saying that this little girl needs to be "punished."
I'm sure this is the worst thing that has ever happened to her in her life. She did nothing wrong on purpose.

My sister, Pat, said we would probably have to take Sami (my granddaughter) to counseling if she ever did something like this. It would break her heart - and we both agree that she would have nightmares for months.

And, unfortunately, when things like this happen to children - if they don't cry and talk about it openly - they hide and don't want to talk about it - and keep it inside. But - few children wouldn't feel any remorse.

Personally - I would be very concerned about this little girl right now - and hope that rather than being in the middle of any arguments, she is helped to understand and get over this terrible accident. I feel very sorry for her. I certainly would not compound this tragedy by punishing her or making her feel more guilty than I am sure she already does.

Don't some of you have children or grandchildren that age!!!! Don't you know how they would feel?


Carol Jean

The blame is on the Grandmother, no one should ever leave a child or an animal in a vehicle alone..:mad:.If she knew she was making a stop then she should have taken them ALL into the store.....The saddest part of this story is that all those babies died.:cry:. Shame on Grandma....:angry:..

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when it comes down to it stupidity is no excuse and i have no pitty for anyone who doesn't have any common sense espically when it comes to a defenceless pet ! the dogs couldn't have done anything to prevent or stop this but the "kids" and the grandmother easily could have!! they should be held responsible by the law! these dogs were caged no where to go depending on their humans to take proper care of them! jmho

Wow - Peters!!!!

What do think about all the YT members who have posted things such as:

My Yorkie fell out of my arms onto the kitchen floor.

I dropped my Yorkie on the driveway.

My pup fell off the bed and he may have broken his leg.

My little Yorkie got loose and I can't find him...help!

My Yorkie ate something that I think is poison - what should I do?

My husband closed the door on our pup's leg. It may be broken.

My puppy broke his leg - my puppy broke his pelvis - something fell on my puppy's head and he's not acting right -what should I do?


Etc. Etc. ETc. Etc.

We get posts like this all the time - and most of us who read these posts say how sorry we are and that a similar thing may have happened to us - and take the pup to the vet - and don't beat yourself up - accidents happen....

Personally - my pup (8 weeks old) lurched out of my arms and fell onto the kitchen floor. He was perfectly okay - but as all of you must know - this absolutely scared me to death. Instead of his being just fine - the outcome could have been tragic. I certainly quickly learned how to hold on to a puppy - nevertheless - it was an accident....one that I learned from.


Peters - your reply could have been directed to a number of us here on YT -

Paraphrasing your QUOTE: When it comes down to it stupidity is no excuse and i have no pitty for anyone who doesn't have any common sense espically when it comes to a defenceless pet ! the dog couldn't have done anything to prevent or stop this but (you) easily could have!! (You) should be held responsible by the law! . . . .

**** I still feel very sorry for the little girl involved in this sad story.......


Carol Jean

I can't get over the fact of grandma blaming the 9 year old.

Also, FORGET about the next litter..........eveyone should get a refund and apology STAT and run the other direction.

I think it's unbelieveable that some people are blaming that poor child. I'm sure she feels terrible already--she doesn't need to be punished. Also, "quiet children are the sneakiest"??? Do you really think this little girl killed those dogs on purpose, just because she's quiet? I was a quiet child, and I would never have done anything like that on purpose. I can assure you that I wasn't sneaky either. Let's have a little sympathy for this family instead of assigning blame.