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Need Help Please HEY EVERYONE. I MIGHT BE ASKING SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE HAS ALREADY ASK BUT I HAVE NOT LOCATED IT YET SO HERE IT GOES. I HAVE A 12 WEEK OLD YORKIE NAMED TRIBUTE THAT I HAVE HAD SINCE HE WAS 7 WEEKS OLD. HE IS A SWEET LOVING PUPPY ONE MINUTE AND THEN THE NEXT HE STARTS BITTING ME AND WHEN I SAY NO BITE HE BITES ME HARDER AND DOES IT WORSE. WHEN I GO TO PICK HIM UP HE TRIES TO GET OUT OF MY HANDS AND BITES ME-ACTUALLY BROKE THE SKIN ON MY HAND. TODAY HE WAS GOOD OUTSIDE AND WHEN WE BROUGHT HIM IN AND DARKNESS CAME HE STARTED TO BITE US CONSTANTLY. I HAVE TRIED WHELPING WHEN HE BITES I HAVE TRIED GIVING HIM TOYS AND ACTUALLY TRIED A LITTLE PAT ON HIS BUTT AND NOTHING. HE SOMETIMES WILL RUN WHEN I GO TO PICK HIM UP. I DONT MISTREAT HIM AND I LOVE HIM TO DEATH. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING AND I KNOW HE IS A PUPPY BUT IT HURTS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING. I EVEN TRIED THE SUGGESTION OF HOLDING HIS MUZZLE SHUT AND PINCHING THE BACK ON HIS NECK AND I COULDNT HANDLE DOING THAT-I WONT HURT ANYTHING AND HE DIDNT LIKE THAT SO I WILL NOT DO THAT EVER. PLEASE HELP:animal-pa |
WOW..my wyatt does it too..but its not hard...he doesnt like to be held for long either...I cant help u on this cause i dont really have this issue...but im sure someone here on YT can help u with this one..... GoOd LuCk! :thumbup: |
I'm not an expert but here is a couple of suggestions I have read on here When he bites say Ouch quite loudly. Usually the noise will scare him. If he does it again, put him down and ignore him. Even if he tries to get your attention, continue to ignore him. Pick him up after a few minutes. If he tries it again, put him down again and ignore him. Please don't hold his mussel, you could brake his jaw and hitting a dog will only get them to be fearful. You have to associate the action with something he finds unpleasant like being ignored. I hope this might help. |
I only tried holding his muzzle once after hearing it on here-but thats all it took and I could never and would never do it again. I am not a bad person and hope that nobody thinks I am. I promise not to do that again and also promise not to pop his butt. I will try the ignore thing-I have done that though it hasnt helped. I know he is a puppy and I will have to have patience. He will not come around me sometimes but when I go to leave the room he comes just a running. Guess yorkies are like children-their ways change with the days. I am just afraid he will not attach to me. Any other suggestions would be helpful.:animal-pa |
Way back before the days of doggy psychology and such we used to get real lemon juice or vinegar and rub it on our hands. Then try to get them to bite. They usually found it so unpleasant that it ended after a few tries. But now in the days of Ceasar Milan and dog behaviorists.....Well, it just sounds like you have a bratty teen ager who tries to run the show. It sounds like he doesn't respect you. If it was me I'd start taking him for long brisks walks and run some of that hostile energy out of him. Bet he'd be begging mom to pick him up and carry him home! Start controlling everything. Don't free feed, make him come to you and sit. Ignore him so he is looking for your attention. Just become the boss. Gentle but firm. He is testing you. The rest of your relationship with this little guy will be formed from how you react now. I know you love him and will beat this thing. The beat of luck to you both! :) |
tribute Brandy, Its a dominate thing, You must teach him that you are the alpha dog.. In other words the leader of the pack. THE BOSS!!!! He sounds like he is testing you to see just how far he can go with you. Penny, My yorkie tried that when she was quite young also. But under no uncertain terms did I let her get away with it. When she bit me I said NO very loudly and put her on the floor and totally ignored her. Yorkies love attention and if they dont get any, it makes them wonder why. But you must be consistant! Dont give in even a little bit. Just remember you are the BOSS. And believe me tribute will love you all the more for it. It worked for me anyways. GOOD LUCK!!! |
Something you can try: When he does this, put him on his back (submissive position) and hold him down and look him in the eyes and firmly say No, then let him back up and ignore him for a few minutes. If he starts again, repeat. When your holding him on his back he should actually avoid your stare showing that he is not confronting you, accepting you as the pack leader, and backing down. Don't know about holding his jaw shut, that does seem a little risky, but watching a Mom raise pups she will nip them when they get too rough. Never had to do it with a Yorkie, but my Malamute I pinch her ear. Before anyone gets upset, take into consideration I weigh 100 pounds - she weighs 120 lbs. and is built to pull sleds. She has incredible strength and can easily pull me wherever she wants to! If we are walking and she sees another dog she wants to go visit - we're going - but, since most don't want a huge dog approaching them, I have to do this to take her out of this trance she gets into so she is aware I'm there and she will listen to me. |
All good replies so far! I have tried the loud NO! and the laying on their back trick and have had success using those. I also do this silly thing sometimes when Howie starts to chew my fingers where in a loud high pitched tone I say "BUP!" I have no idea why, but it works. And I keep repeating it. And after doing it a few times he starts going in to bite and then not following through and he gets frustrated and relents. It's pretty funny. Also, age helped. The older he gets, the better he's behaved! Hang in there! :D |
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This has nothing to do with dominance. This is normal teething puppy behavior. Human babies chew everything in sight, too, when they are teething. Are they doing it to show dominance? I think not. The advice that you were given about yelping and immediately turning your back on him was right on target. Positive trainers recommend that you do that when puppies bite hard enough to hurt. When Tribute is biting you but it doesn't really hurt, simply substitute an appropriate item to chew on - a toy or a bone. By reacting differently when it hurts or not, you teach him an important concept: bite inhibition. To teach him to tolerate being held, you can do a couple of things. One, give him treats when you pick him up. He'll soon learn that in your hands is a good place to be. Also, reward calm behavior by giving him what he wants - to get down. Wait for 1 second of calm, "good boy!" and put him down. Repeat many, many times. Then, you can gradually expect 2 seconds then 3, etc, etc. Being calm gets him released; squirming and biting does not. Make sense? |
It may seem silly to you but when Piccolo was biting me - I growled at him and barked. He just looked at me very surprised and backed off. Then he came back to me and kissed me like crazy. It was sooo funny ! |
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If you listen to people who tell you not to discipline your dog, you'll end up with a dog that bites. Negative reinforcement is just as effective as positive reinforcement. Dogs, like humans, need both. Using bitter apple spray or locking them in a cage is the same concept. I've found that dogs exhibit many more negative traits from being ignored as they do from a temporary infliction of pain. If you'll notice, 99% of all successful dog trainers use pain (like electric shock for example) as an effective means of training. |
I am just confused on what to do with him. I know he is a puppy but he is also small compared to the other brothers from the same litter. He is almost 12 weeks old and weighs 1.6 pounds. I have tried holding him down and saying no but he sqirms and growls and does not give in. He gets up and bites harder. I have tried taking him on walks and he will just lay there and not move-I am just so upset here lately over him and he is trying me and I am failing. I have cried over this for days. I just wish he knew i loved him and that i just didnt want him to bite me. He is happier to see strangers-maybe his problem is me. |
Give it some time. I know when I have a litter and my puppies are about 4 weeks I begin holding them in the submissive position on their backs for a minute several times a day. I was advised to do this. You definitely have those in the litter that have no problem with it and others that wrestle you (those are the ones that bite the hardest and definitely demonstrate leader qualities). Usually, by the time mine go to their new homes, the effort on my part of doing this throughout the day every day has eliminiated this behavior. |
Bitting!! Tiny used to bite until I started yelling "Ouch". Now even if we are playing with a toy and he acidentally bites then automatically I'm going "OUCH" and he will stop playing until I tell him " it's OK you just got Mommy finger" I think the ouch thing works...I think they know...When they are really hurting you. Tiny even gets upset when Corey or I fake cry...Like when he won't come and see me...I'll fake cry and he gets all interested in what I'm doing and why! They know...THey know exactly what they are doing! ;) |
LOL I was just reading this post and comparing it to another one on the same topic. The advice ranges from ignoring, he'll out grow it, to actually physically hitting. How are these poor people suppose to know what to do. Take my advice and Go to the experts Check out Cesar Milan, aka The dog whisperer's website. http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1 |
LOL. Yes, you're right, Jeannie, how do people know what to do when there is so much conflicting advice? I guess they have to read it all and weigh what feels right in their specific situation. I think it's also important to remember that some advice given here - like mine, for instance;) - *is* based on what the experts say. The fact that a dog expert isn't also an actor doesn't make him/her less of an expert. The experts whose advice rings true for me are Melissa Alexander, Karen Pryor, Pam Dennison, Patricia McConnell, Morgan Spector, Ian Dunbar, Deb Jones, Shirley Cong, etc, etc. What do these individuals have in common? They are all positive trainers. Melissa Alexander has done a nice compilation of their work on her website. I agree! Go to the experts! www.clickersolutions.com |
I have been working with Bruce on trying to curb a serious aggression problem! Not biting only because I have always stopped him in the nick of time...I hired a professional behaviorist trainer to work with us, and it has been working. What we have been working on is establishing leadership...The most effective thing I have noticed in at least our situation is that if I reinforce the behavior by reacting it continues and gets worse. If Bruce gets snarly (and presents no threat to another dog or person) I turn away from him and walk away giving him no eye contact, touch, or other attention in any way for at least 5 minutes then the behavior stops. We have been really having success with the "walk away technique" but I think every dog could be different! |
Puppy aggression I know just how you feel because I felt the same way when my 'brother' dog would act that way with me. I would actually cry, my feelings were so hurt. But I hadn't read anything about dog psychology and what their actions mean and what they feel secure. It was decades ago. Not that I've progressed much since then.;) I agree with LinsZooCrew response. From what I've been reading (and testing), it's true that you need to establish yourself as the Alpha dog or he will assume it himself. They have ways of establishing dominance, saying "I'm boss" , that we never even knew of. Like when your dog jumps up and puts both paws on you when you come in the door, that's saying "I'm top dog". When you feed your dog whenever he whines or whimpers or begs, you have lost your Alpha status and he'll keep doing it. Doing things we perceive as disrespect, but it's not really. Dogs ( most ) can sense your emotions. Some much more than others. So if the dog senses your fears ( emotional pains ) when he's around you, he will begin to respond to them in different ways; even become what you fear/believe he will become. Now I'd say that's with very perceptive dogs. Ones really tuned in. Like companion dogs can sense the needs of their Mommy, or you've witnessed your dog coming to sit beside you when you are weeping over some loss, or sick.... He's probably not that in tune yet, but he definitely needs boundaries. It doesn't make sense in my own mind, but it's proved true. I used to totally spoil "Puppy" , our family dog. I take him places and let him run, and be boss. Follow him anywhere. Give him table food while I was eating, move over. Everything that the teachings say not to do (though I will never stop all of it. I can't) . So Puppy bossed me around. He saw my father as Alpha dog and me as last in the chain. He would bite me if I tried to pick him up and love on him when he was on Dads bed, or even kick him off my own. Don't let it hurt your feelings. Please. It takes a while to figure each other out. I first thought he might be acting out of fear - called fearful aggression - but after reading your description of his loving strangers , it doesn't sound like that. I don't agree that Cesar "the dog whisperer" is the Steve Irwin of canines. Not by a long shot. But I do agree to some of his teachings about the pack psychology. Others have been writing about it for many decades. For some reason, it works. I've tested my own dog and tried being the Alpha : Being the one to provide food, waiting until they are calm. Taking them for a leash walk, getting them to walk beside or behind me, and it amazed me at how naturally they KNEW what they were supposed to do. Being calm yet assertive. Everyone in the house has to be in on it too. They learn pecking order by watching everyone and testing you. Blah blah, yadda yadda, I've gone and written a novel here. Can't sleep. You can look all the dog psychology and what actions mean what, right here (probably). If not, you could leaf through a dog language type of book. You can also just do whatever you're already doing and he may just come around on his own. But I'd definitely make a strong effort not to allow my feelings to be hurt when he acts out - all that weakness and fear isn't healthy for him, or your relationship. I don't mean to sound harsh. I'm the first one to cry , but now I'm trying to catch myself thinking or fearing the worst around the dogs. One of my dogs has been around, and spoiled for years, with only minimal structure, but she only rarely acts out, testing me. About once every two months she has to serve time in the Pokie. Time out. Not long, but she gets it real fast and behaves. I think you'll be just fine once you figure out what the little guy needs to feel safe. This is all my humble opinion and I'm always learning . I used the spray on my hands with my Bichon ( my semi spoiled sweetie ) while she was a puppy, but while she was constantly biting everything, she was doing it in play and didn't growl or "bite" , just a constant chewing on me. She learned. And I learned not to chew on my fingernails with that stuff on my hands. I feel for you. You were expecting the prize Yorkie everyone talks about, all kisses and snuggles. He will probably turn out to be just that. I'd bank on it. I hope it turns around quickly for you and you get your love bug . Control the food - provide structure - all the things we dont want to do ;) . Take all advise with a grain of salt. Throw out most of mine :D Take FirstYorkie's advice on seeking out the true experts advice (and she gave you the names of some of them ). You can't know which advice is good and bad until you seek out the experts advice and weigh it for yourself. So see, I'm advising you not to take any advise. :rolleyes: You will be fine. I know it. :D Oh my gosh, I think I'm blind.. I can't see the screen anymore...:eek: -Angel and Maggie and Mike LinsZooCrew[/FONT] |
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