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Originally Posted by red98vett

Hi...I'm hoping after you do a little more reseach on this subject you may change your mind. I'm by far not an expert on this subject... but have spent hours reading and talking to people about this problem in our country....they are always different opinions - but facts speak for themselves - The fact is our country has a HUGE Puppy Mill problem.

You stated not all Pet Store Puppies come from Mills and many Pet Stores use a breeder.... and these breeders are NOT BYB's ? ....98% of PET STORES buy from Mills (approx) and what ethical breeder would sell to a Pet Store ? You may find the occasional mom and pop store that use a breeder ...but you can bet the breeder is worse than a BYB ...I really doubt the caring breeders with any ethics would do this.

and as far as the Rescue Groups going to auctions - they are usually people who love a certain breed- they go to auctions to SAVE the dogs - They buy them very cheap - provide medical attention.... and place them in Foster Care. It's kind of a version of the Underground Railroad - they are there to save dogs.... not line the pockets of the Millers.

The Rescue Groups don't come even close to the amount of dogs the mills sell to pet stores. You can't compare what Rescue does with Mills selling to Pet Stores. Thousands of puppies are shipped out in disgusting 18 wheelers every week - and many don't even survive the trip. It doesn't matter if it's freezing cold or wicked hot - they are mass transported across the country.

Then to make matters worse - they get stuck in yet ANOTHER Cage with minimal food, no toys & no human contact but for the occasional person that wants to pet them - Many pet store puppies are ill with parasites or worse and they get NO medical attention -

Their life now consists of nothing but food, going to the bathroom and sleeping ....WHAT Puppy is comfortable on a wire cage ?

So..when you say you want laws changed - Oh yeah - they need to be changed - IF They stop selling dogs in Pet stores - it would put a HUGE dent in Puppy Mill Profits - they would forced to stop mass breeding the way they do because their BIGGEST customers (Pet Stores) can't sell dogs anymore -

I agree that is it is a huge problem. I am sorry if I didn't explain myself well enough. I think we should do whatever is necessary to shut down ALL puppy millers. I just hope there is a way to do it legally without anyone buying from a petstore or from the millers.

We have a petstore a couple hours north of us that work with the local humane society to place dogs/puppies and cats. The dogs they have for adoption are not purchased from mills. They are dogs that have been abandoned or rescued and are up for adoption. You have to file for adoption and they do an extensive check on prospective owners.

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Originally Posted by Willow

That's awesome they do that - and rare. I didn't mean to come on so strong lol - but I got a little obsessed back about 4 years ago when I found out what a puppy Mill was - and you're right - they need to shut them ALL down.

IF they don't shut them down - they need to police them way more than they do - the Agencies responsible for these poor dogs just don't cut it. The Inspectors look the other way in too many cases. No dog should be left in the conditions many are found - did you see the Horrible post here ? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49767

Good God - how can this happen ? I've said this before - but we call dogs 'Man's Best Friend'. :( After reading and seeing how we treat them in this country - that statement is nothing but a lie.

I've been in a Mill - without knowing it 10 years ago - when we bought my Cocker Spaniel Tessa - it wasn't a horror show but it really upset me and I walked around almost in tears looking at all the barking lonely puppies - It was pretty bad as far as the cages all in a row - the smell... and the constant barking - when they handed me Tessa and told me she had a really bad underbite and would probably never be sold - I ran out of there and left my then boyfriend (now husband) to pay for her.

Hon, I completely understand why you came on so strong and I wouldn't expect anything less of someone who loves their furbabies! I am a bit soured on one group I won't name cuz I am not sure if that would break a rule that buy the dogs from miller auctions. They DID get them proper medical care and try to place them in homes etc BUT when another individual found a dog name for sale on ebay (they weren't selling the dog, just the rights to name their dog breeding business) the people in this rescue group went so far as to threaten bodily harm to this person. I was shocked and offended and felt that these rescue people had gone off the deep end. They didn't believe in ANYONE having puppies or breeding their dogs. They didn't care if you were responsible or not, breeding and selling pups was a no no BUT they would charge anywhere from $400 to $1000 for someone to "adopt" their rescues. To me, that wasn't adopting a rescue, that was purchasing a dog but only IF they approved you.

Needless to say I left that group!

Wow - you're right - they should be sticking to what they're susposed to do -Rescue dogs and find them a great home. I guess you can say the same thing happened with PETA - they really do have the best interests of animals at heart - but they can be fanatical and a little over the top with some of their causes. But overall - I'm glad they're out there spreading the word and trying to open peoples eyes.