I was READING The posts on here......
 

regarding buying and selling puppies and contracts and what to ask and all that stuff....... and to tell the truth I NEVER do get what all the hoopla is about asking all the questions to prospective buyers.:rolleyes: I mean for gosh sakes, a person can tell you ANYTHING they think you WANT to hear. So my mind tends to wonder what the point is??????
YESSSSSS there are a few who are going to say things and make you NOT want to sell them the pup but a smart person only has to tell you what you want to hear and you will send your pup off thinking it went to the greatest home.
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ANYWAY.... It was only my thoughts and doesn't mean anything so don't anybody take it personal:animal36

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I agree. :thumbup: People lie all the time ... it's sad but true. :(

OH YESSSSSSSS I was thinking SAD but TRUE too... so I hope it isn't taken as sarcastic by anyone;)

Usually when purchasing a puppy....The breeder will have several conversations with an individual...which ultimately reveals more and more about that person. I also think most breeders develops a gut instinct about people. You can quote rhetoric....but a person's innate warmth, kindness and intelligence is hard to mimic with any real sincerity.

Besides...truth be told...most people can spot a phony a mile away. If you can't, then you're not trusting your inner voice....it never lies ....


Francie

I totally agree with you!!!!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Unfortunately I have to agree. It isn't necessarily lying either. The fact is they can have an idea based on genetics but my Chloe is larger than both her parents and yorkie puppies look alike to the average person like me and once you fall in love, there's no going back. I have hear of people who insist they return a puppy if it doesn't stay small, etc. but I couldn't do it. All yorkies are so lovable but I'm certain I paid too much for mine. Oh well, they are great anyway and its only money, right?

As Always....:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I talked to a lot of breeders when searching for my Monte...I only felt comfortable with 2 of them, I purchased my baby from one, and trusted the other to bring my baby to me. So, it goes both ways.

Unfortunately, you're right. People can say whatever they want and some are really good at it because they've done it all their lives.:(

But, I find it works both ways. Unless you go to a reputable breeder and actually visit their home, you can't always believe them either. I called a breeder in answer to a newspaper ad, but when I went to see the puppies, I was upset at where they were and how dirty everything was. I got a whole different impression when I talked to the breeder on the phone.

It's sad that we live in a world where you never know what to believe.

I've mentioned this before in posts.

I know for sure, that whether it's true or not. I would state

1 I have a fenced in yard.
2 I have no large dogs
3 I have no small children
4 I am home most of the day
5 I have my vet on speed dial.

All of the above are true, except for the vet on speed dial, but I don't feel I should have to be interrogated just to adopt a pet. I'm not a child. I had one breeder quit responding to my emails, just because I adopted Ollie at 8 weeks. So she saw me as an unfit mother.???????????:confused:

But is it safe for a breeder to give out their address. They are putting themselves in danger too. I'm not sure that I will want everyone to know where I live.

geez Francie...I couldn't agree more. We all do the very best we can and all the questions are just a good jumping off point for conversation that will hopefully let us all know more about each other. The contracts are important, because that way things are clearly spelled out and there can be no mistaken assumptions.

I can understand that, but I think most people want to see where the puppy lives. It's a shame that everyone is afraid to trust people anymore, me included. Most people pay alot for these puppies, so I think they have a right to be able to see that the puppy has been taken good care of, etc.

I don't mind a breeder asking me any questions, but I won't give out any personal info such as my social security number. It's a shame that anybody in the world can have a baby, but when someone wants to adopt or buy a dog, they get the third degree.

I would never go with a breeder who did not ask questions.
To most breeders my home would not be great for a yorkie, we have large dog, small children,unfenced yard...

but my breeder who I got Reggie and Kenzie from did take the chence of speaking with me and listened. She gave me the opportunity to explain why I was great for a yorkie.
I am home all the time, my standard poodle was borught up with toy poodles and is so gentle with the yorkies, he always shuffles his feet to make sure they are not going to stepped on. We have never had an incident with him and the yorkies. My children are aways supervised with the dogs (like my hand is on the dogs or him) plus when he is playing he is in a gated room adn the dogs have the free reign of the house, I would never leave them in there alone together, he is only a toddler and could fall on them. Our yard is not fenced in because we just moved in, but I have a large porch, that is gated in, the yorkies cannot get off and nothing can get on, it has a roof, so I do not worry about hawks or the sun burning them, plus they are never allowed outside with out supervision.
My breeder listened and allowed me to have 2 of her puppies (they are a year a part, we got one and loved him so much went back for another!)
My breeder was honest and said that she was not sure until she spoke with me many times on the phone and got a feel for me and my lifestlye and intentions for the pups.
So everyone my not fit the perfect profile but a breeder needs to go by their instincts.

asking and answering questions is one thing..but many answers that arent forthright soon bite them in the butt.

My first screening is my questionnaire which asks many personal questions and requests three references including vet.
second is phone - phone interview
third is verify references and chat with the vet
forth another - phone interview.
several phone calls that follow......

I recently did not place a pup with someone that seemed to be the perfect family until #4 ...I called and when she answered there was a large dog barking and a baby crying ...cant cover that up very quickly...

how ya gonna explain away what I hear "I run a doggie and baby day care" :)

you're right. I always wonder with my newest pup, Lotte, if her other momma truly trusts she is in the great home that she is. Anyone can tell you exactly what they know you want to hear. I'm so anal about making sure my babies find good homes (when lotte is ready to breed) that I will require a home visit to their home. I could never send a pup off to anyone without seeing exactly where they're going. I am the same way when I foster furbabies.

Well I know when I first started looking I was very honest by telling the breeders that I had 4 children and a german shepherd. Some politely apologized but said they wouldnt place one of their yorkies in that type of home and others said they wouldnt mind as long as I had vet references. The breeder I got macy from was extremely nice and informative and she didnt mind selling macy even though i had a shepherd because she used to have shepherds. So I lucked out. I guess I would be nervous if a breeder didnt ask questions cause that would make me think she didnt care about where the puppies went. On the other side though I bet there are a lot of breeders who misrepresent themselves as well. I am just glad to have found the wonderful world of forums because they were a huge source of information for me when I started looking for my first.

You guys!!!! Why is everyone so suspicious?

"People lie all the time - people lie all the time about dogs...."

I believe that most people are honest. Remember the old adage: "He who doeth no evil suspect none." (Meaning the people who are the most suspicious of others - usually aren't the most honest people themselves.)

I believe that most dogs do go to good homes. Dogs are happy living in homes where they are taken care of and loved.

I think that the one thing we have to careful about with our little Yorkies is the fact that they are so small. So, for this reason, we have to be a little more careful about the homes they go to. And - it is wise of us to point this out to prospective buyers - helping them realize that these little dogs do need special care because of their size. After learning more about these little dogs, a lot of people decide on thier own that perhaps this breed isn't the best choice for themselves, their environment, or their family.

I think one of the most important questions we can ask is, "Why do you want such a small dog?" We can learn a lot from their answer to this question.

I wouldn't discount a person who has children, has other pets, doesn't have their vet on a speed dial, lives without a fenced yard - and a lot of other things. None of these are things that make a good or bad pet owner.

I, personally, live in a large house, am single, work part time, had two cats, have two birds and another dog and don't have a fenced yard. And, I have family and children visiting often. All my pets are healthy, happy, playful, and affectionate. I was totally up front and honest about myself when I got my dog -- and there were no problems at all.

Carol Jean

[QUOTE=sylvan]geez Francie...I couldn't agree more.



Stacy.....I'm going to Frame this......:D




Francie

[QUOTE=Francie]:bleh:

I think that is really sad that she was denied a puppy for that reason. She may have given that pup a very safe and wonderful home. When we brought Diesel home my DD was 7 and we also had and still have a large German Shepherd. They are the best of friends! This is the reason why so many leave small details like that out. I didn't tell the breeder we got Diesel from about the Shepherd. I was scared that she wouldn't let me have him.

I refuse to give out personal info about myself to anyone. I looked into adopting forst and I didn't because of so many personal questions. They wanted my husband's work and his number. They also wanted references (both work and personal).. These are just a FEW questions they ask. Of course then you get down to the dreaded questions.... how many kids and what ages, how many dogs and what kind.

I think these are a few of the reasons why so many dogs are still in shelters.


Michelle

Michelle...whats sad someone omits the truth yet the truth comes back and bites them on the butt...

If you are talking about me... Well I have had no problems. My daughter knows how to handle Diesel and the Shepherd has never hurt him. Diesel looks up to him like a big brother. So no problems here. My daughter was with me when we picked him up also.

It is your right as a breeder to ask any and all questions you like. It is my right to look elsewhere.

Michelle

Michelle why would you think I am refering to you?
my point is there are many exceptions but "Lying is not acceptable"

Because I said that I didn't tell the breeder that I had a German Shepherd at home.

Michelle

I personally don't discriminate just because you have large dogs..I have two and they get along fine with my yorkies. I would, however, be concerned about what else you were lying about(even by omission) if I found out you had large dogs and didn't tell me. I don't think anyone would appreciate it if I neglected to tell them something about the pup I was selling. Our first responsibility as breeders is to the welfare of our dogs. I prefer to deal honestly and hope that people choose to do the same.

A Lie Is A Lie
 

Omission of anything to anyone..is a lie. Plain and simple. If I lied about anything when searching for my Monte, then I deserved not to get him. Lying, omitting the fact you have a toddler, large dog is like a man saying he is single and in fact he has been married for years....:rolleyes: