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Is this a real breeder? I called about an ad for a yorkee in our local paper. Well this is what the ad said: "Reg. Teacup Yorkees for sale, call anytime." Well I ask her how much and she said $1200.00 for females and $1100.00 for males.. They are CKC not AKC...Does this make a difference in the price of Yorkee puppies?? Well I ask her why so much...What makes them worth it? She said well they will be TEACUP...I said and what do U mean by TEACUP...Well they will ALL be under 7 lbs...(Is this size teacup?? If so then Teddy is a teacup for he is under 7 lbs.) I ask how old they are? Just turned 6 weeks old, I ask her are their mothers or fathers AKC champion??? NO. What do U feed them? She said ah, I can't remember the name of the food...(Sounded funny to me) (Mine's on Sience Diet, I don't forget mine!). Finally she came up with it. Same as mine, after I told her what mine were on! Then I ask her when they was ready to go to a new home...She said now...I said @ 6 weeks? I have some that are 11 weeks & I'm just now getting ready to look for them new homes...She said oh no I mean I'll be taking deposits...I said how many shots have they had? She said just one this week. I ask about wormer...Just one this week. So what do U all think...I don't know about people around here. No I haven't even went and saw the puppy and the ad is still in the paper from last week! I just thought I'd call and see what kind of people are selling Yorkees around our home town for and how they treat their Yorkees. Sounds like to me she is a con artist...Just tell U what U want to hear...Thinking I'd be dumb...Do U all think she is a real good breeder? Well they don't know I come here @ Yorkee.com to learn & I learn from the best! LOL! Hugs, Lee |
First of all I am not a breeder but there isn't such a thing as a teacup, then most good breeders don't let there puppies go until they are 12 weeks old, and then if she doesn't know what she feeds them, I would look somewhere else....but I am sure others YT will have a bunch of comments for you...Good Luck!:) |
BYB at it's best! :thumbdown |
She does not sound like a good breeder. She sounds like someone who bred her dogs and is trying to get a quick buck. Come on you don't know what your dogs eat:rolleyes: thats dumb she should know those things. And there are only small yorkies not teacups and even if one was trying to sell a teacup it should be around 3-4.5 pounds, not 7. |
Doesn't sound to promising!!!!!!! |
Tisk Tisk, another breeder breeding dogs only to make a profit. :thumbdown :mad: |
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Worming and shots vary by breeder preference, some will start at 6wks others at 8wks. Breeders sometimes will not worm at all if they do not see the need for it, a fecal exam of one of the pups done should determine if its needed. Letting a puppy go at 6wks is crazy!! There are laws in some states on what is the earlies age a pup can be sold, most are 8wks. This I wouldnt go by even if legal, whats best for the pups comes first. Its great you still have your babies at 11wks! I bet your enjoying them. Science diet is pricey but it really is not the best food. You can buy a better food at about the same price. Check labels for ingredients, first should always be meat, try to avoid foods with by-products, corn, fillers. There is LOTS in this forum about food, lol! I would avoid a breeder like that, she doesnt sound like she knows much. Hard to know if she just doesnt know or if she is a con artist, only if you would see the pups would you know if they even existed. http://www.animallaw.info/articles/o...ysaletable.htm |
I kinda thought she was just selling for money and that bothers me...I would like not to see those people here in our state..I was thinking about our talk this morning and I remember her sayin' that if U say Teacup they sell so fast...That made me mad and she also said people don't care about the AKC or CKC...So to me if she is sellin' these babies @ 6 weeks old sure they are tiny and sure they look like a toy puppy...But once they get older they are most likely gonna be around Teddys size I'd say and that would be bad for the people who buy them thinking they are getting a 3 or 4 pounder when really they are gonna be in my Teddys size. I feel for them. I would rather have bigger healther babies then not. As far as dog food can U all give me some ideas on better dog foods for about the same price as we're paying for the Science Diet?? Our's seems to be doing great on this kind. Any thoughts? Hugs and many thanks on U're thoughts. |
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Sounds like this person has not done any research to produce quality Yorkies or any breed for that matter. I know you're just looking at the "competition", but that would be a good example of how not to answer questions. I know you have more knowledge than she does and would answer the questions more appropriately. As a breeder you should have the knowledge to educate your buyers on the standards and health concerns. |
Yes, run in the other direction as far as you can go. First of all - there is no such thing as teacups in our standard. And secondly - the standard calls for the weight not to exceed 7 pounds. We are not poodles and do not have different standards of sizes. She apparently is not an informed breeder and does not know what she is doing. Sorry. This is so sad. How hard is it to research about the breed before bring new pups into this world? T. |
Because of this - breeders not researching and learning about the standard before breeding - I have seen/heard the quality go down over the years. When I first was into yorkies - 80's and 90's you very rarely saw/heard of blue or chocolate (sorry don't mean to offend anyone) pups, or laxtating petellas, or liver shunts. Infact back then you didn't hear of hardly any yorkies having these problems. If this type of breeding continues - where people do not educate themselves - where will the quality end up? This is why I research and learn all I can before producing a litter. Ultimately I am responsible for their gene pool and what they carry on. |
[QUOTE=topknot]Because of this - breeders not researching and learning about the standard before breeding - I have seen/heard the quality go down over the years. When I first was into yorkies - 80's and 90's you very rarely saw/heard of blue or chocolate (sorry don't mean to offend anyone) pups, or laxtating petellas, or liver shunts. Infact back then you didn't hear of hardly any yorkies having these problems. If this type of breeding continues - where people do not educate themselves - where will the quality end up? This is why I research and learn all I can before producing a litter. Ultimately I am responsible for their gene pool and what they carry on.[/QUOTEI thought chocolate yorkies could just happpen to any breeder. Are you saying it is always the result of bad breeding? |
I had never seen or heard of a chocolate, liver, or blue puppy back in the 80's and 90's when I showed. Not until now, when I started back and started to research and learned what was happening to others. I know some people love the other colors - not standard. But IMO I prefer staying within the standard.:p Here is a link form TYCA on this issue: http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html Go to frequently asked questions. |
This is a quote from YTCA site (frequently asked questions). "The AKC Breed Standard and YTCA Code of Ethics do not recognize any other color dogs than noted above. This includes all gold, born blue, liver (also known as red or chocolate), and parti-colors. One of the reasons for avoiding breeding "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the dog's health. Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death. A responsible breeder will not intentionally breed for undesirable traits. On very rare occasions, a breeder will have a puppy born with a color anomaly. That puppy should undergo careful health screenings before being placed in a spay/neuter (non-breeding) home. A breeder should certainly never promote these deviations as being desirable or rare. " They also have information regarding "teacups." |
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Yorkies weren't meant to come in all sorts of colours. The colours you normally see can be various shades from a black and gold or tan to a light silver and gold. The ideal of course, is the breed standard colour which reputable breeders strive for. The difference now compared to when you were in Yorkies is that some have decided these miscolourings are rare and therefore of increased value, some will actually try to breed for them. In reality they are totally wrong colouring that still exists in the breed and can show up and should be avoided not just because of the colour but often a 'rare' colouring carries a health problem along with the genes that causes these rare colours.. |
I think the reason I did not see or hear of any other color than standard back then is bacause we were so careful back then to keep to the standard. We spent hours upon hours researching and looking at other litters and yorkies it was a true science then that most of us practiced. Yes, I am sure that wrong or odd colors did happen back then, just not like they do today. I see many, not all, breeders like the one mentioned on this post that do not research and learn about the breed before breeding. I think that what has happened today is that many/some do not study the standard or learn all they can about their own yorkies (lines or quality/faults) and just want to have pups, whether it is the "lets have cute puppies" symdrom or "lets make some money." When a breed becomes popular - the standard tends to decline for awhile, such as what happened to toy poodles and some other breeds as well in the past. It takes many years to recover. Noticed I said most or many - which can be some, but not all. I congratulate all the ones that do their homework before breeding. And are careful and selective. Only with these type of breeders can our breed standard improve and continue. |
I hate to say this but believe it to be true that - back in the past - if any undesirable pups were born breeders would put them down soon after birth (that day). Maybe this is why we did not see any. |
I wouldn't trust them at all |
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I would be aware of her! I guess if 7lbs is a teacup then I have a teaspoon lol |
Thank U everyone for U're thoughts...U know she really gets to me...I mean I'm by NO means a prefect Yorkee lady!!! But I'm learning and wanting to better myslef and my babies! I keep thinking about us talking and she said this too! "If U ever seen a Real Yorkee then U'd know!" (She was talking about hers being the perfect Yorkee's) I ask her what she ment by that? She said that well some Yorkees have big noses but a real Yorkee doesn't...I said okay...Well I know Tiffanie is a real Yorkee and AKC too and she has I think a bigger nose then Teddy...Cause she's bigger I think?? I don't know and U I looked in the paper today & she still has her ad in there! Sad...I don't want the money as much as I want good homes for mine!! To me that means more! Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae: :aimeeyork http://www.dogster.com/?316369 :aimeeyork Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt: :aimeeyork http://www.dogster.com/?316383 :aimeeyork Sir. Galahad Riothamus: :aimeeyork http://www.dogster.com/?348737 :aimeeyork Sir. Lancelot Avalon: :aimeeyork http://www.dogster.com/?348775 :aimeeyork Princess Isabella Guinevere I: :aimeeyork http://www.dogster.com/?348779 :aimeeyork Princess Arimathea Ambrosius: http://www.dogster.com/?348789 |
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If you reside in the US you can buy a dog from Canada from a reputable breeder and it will be Canadian Kennel Club registered. You can submit the required paperwork including the Canadian Kennel Club registration and get the dog or puppy AKC registered. A litter born in the US must be AKC registered it cannot be registered Canadian Kennel Club without the AKC registration being done first including the individual dog registrations. But Continental Kennel Club is not recognized by AKC or Canadian Kennel Club either. Neither will register a puppy or dog that is only Continental Kennel Club registered it would have to be AKC or Canadian Kennel club registered |
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