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DJ30 06-26-2006 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82
ah ha, we might have found the problem. Look inside her ears, do you see any black stuff? i'm thinking that's where it came from. does she shake her head alot or scratch at her ears? If you can hold her still enough (get someone to help you) take a q-tip and try and wipe out some of the gook in her ear canal to see what color it is. If those big chunks came out of her ears, i'm thinking it might be ear mites. She'll need to go back to the vet pronto to get that cleared up. It can also be just alot of build up in the ear.
Yes, we do see black stuff. It looks like the specks we've seen. She doesn't shake her head that often, but she does scratch her ears from time to time. I mentioned this to the breeder soon after taking her home, and she said it was because Angel had her ears cleaned and trimmed. There has been an odour around her head, which we thought might be from teething but maybe it's the ear wax. TCC helped me hold Angel while I cleaned her ears with Q-tips and ear cleaner. The colour was black/brown. She really struggled but gave up eventually. We think it's just a lot of buildup. Her left ear wasn't bad, but her right ear was really bad. Should we clean them until we don't see anymore wax? How often should we clean them? Is it normal for a dog to thrash around afterwards by rubbing their face and ears on their blanket/bed? This is what she is doing.

Surfie and Tiki 06-26-2006 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
Is it normal for a dog to thrash around afterwards by rubbing their face and ears on their blanket/bed? This is what she is doing.
It's very normal, so don't worry. Also be very careful when using Q-tips as it's very easy to damage the ear drum. It looks like you found the problem, ear debris, just look in the ear every day to see if it's better. You got very good advice on this thread. Don't ya just love YT's members?

DJ30 06-26-2006 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
One thing to remember about fleas, they need a food source to complete their life cycle, so if you have your pet treated with Advantage or Frontline or Sentinal, the fleas will eventually go back to the animal and die.

It is important to vacuum and wash bedding, but if you don't get them all, they will end up back on the animal and then die. So don't drive yourself crazy over it.
Thanks. This info is good to know. Well, we think the problem is ear wax buildup, so hopefully this is the end of the problem.

DJ30 06-26-2006 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki
It's very normal, so don't worry. Also be very careful when using Q-tips as it's very easy to damage the ear drum. It looks like you found the problem, ear debris, just look in the ear every day to see if it's better. You got very good advice on this thread. Don't ya just love YT's members?
Ok, good. How far in can I go in her ear with the Q-tip? The breeder told me not to worry about going too far in. Yes, YT members are great! Thanks everybody! :thumbup:

kalina82 06-26-2006 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
Yes, we do see black stuff. It looks like the specks we've seen. She doesn't shake her head that often, but she does scratch her ears from time to time. I mentioned this to the breeder soon after taking her home, and she said it was because Angel had her ears cleaned and trimmed. There has been an odour around her head, which we thought might be from teething but maybe it's the ear wax. TCC helped me hold Angel while I cleaned her ears with Q-tips and ear cleaner. The colour was black/brown. She really struggled but gave up eventually. We think it's just a lot of buildup. Her left ear wasn't bad, but her right ear was really bad. Should we clean them until we don't see anymore wax? How often should we clean them? Is it normal for a dog to thrash around afterwards by rubbing their face and ears on their blanket/bed? This is what she is doing.
clean her ears every day now for the next couple days. If you see that the build up isn't going away then i'd bring her to the vet. If you notice a smell coming from her ears then she might have an ear infection. hmmmm, since i can't see the ears personally i can't tell you if you need to go to the vet tomorrow or wait it out. usually thick black gook in puppies means ear mites. but then again it couple just be an infection since you mentioned it smelling. i'm not sure if eat mite goop smells, but i do know its thick, black and disgusting, and usually looks like clumps of dirt. use your best judgement, if you think there is a lot of stuff in there and don't notice it going away or smelling any less then take her to the vet. ear mites are easy to treat, as is an ear infection, with just a couple drops a day for a week or so.

DJ30 06-26-2006 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82
clean her ears every day now for the next couple days. If you see that the build up isn't going away then i'd bring her to the vet. If you notice a smell coming from her ears then she might have an ear infection. hmmmm, since i can't see the ears personally i can't tell you if you need to go to the vet tomorrow or wait it out. usually thick black gook in puppies means ear mites. but then again it couple just be an infection since you mentioned it smelling. i'm not sure if eat mite goop smells, but i do know its thick, black and disgusting, and usually looks like clumps of dirt. use your best judgement, if you think there is a lot of stuff in there and don't notice it going away or smelling any less then take her to the vet. ear mites are easy to treat, as is an ear infection, with just a couple drops a day for a week or so.
Ok, I cleaned her ears until I didn't really see anymore stuff. The breeder showed us how to clean a dog's ears, and the stuff that came out of Angel's ears looked like the same debris as the breeder's dog's ears. We told the breeder about the smell before, and she said that sometimes they rub their head/face on the pee pad, which is how Angel is going potty. She said that if the odour was still there after bathing her, it might be something. I think it took a couple of days for the smell to come back. I'll definitely keep an eye on her ears. Thanks again! :)

Surfie and Tiki 06-26-2006 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
How far in can I go in her ear with the Q-tip? The breeder told me not to worry about going too far in.
:idontknow , how's that for an answer? I read that going in too far can damage the dog's eardrum. Sorry, I'm of no help on that question.......

kalina82 06-27-2006 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki
:idontknow , how's that for an answer? I read that going in too far can damage the dog's eardrum. Sorry, I'm of no help on that question.......

a dogs ear drum is bend at a 90 degree angle so if the dog is sitting still and not fidgeting then you can clean to your hearts content without worrying. however if you have a bouncy puppy and no one to help you help the head steady then i wouldn't use q-tips. with the bouncing and moving around and you pulling on the ear you might be able to get the ear canal at an angle where the q-tip can reach the canal. You can use a q-tip to get at the outer folds tho, and use a warm cotton ball to sweep out the rest of the stuff.

DJ30 06-27-2006 06:58 AM
Does a dog's ear wax normally smell? I think I only smell the ear cleaner now. I'm using Soothables Pet Health Aids Crystal-Ear.

kalina82 06-27-2006 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
Does a dog's ear wax normally smell? I think I only smell the ear cleaner now. I'm using Soothables Pet Health Aids Crystal-Ear.
normal ear wax doesn't smell. An infected ear will smell. usually really really bad, especially if its a yeast infection.

DJ30 06-27-2006 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kalina82
normal ear wax doesn't smell. An infected ear will smell. usually really really bad, especially if its a yeast infection.
Ok. I didn't smell anything when I was cleaning her ears cuz I could only smell the ear cleaner. Is it normal for them to scratch their ears the day after they've been cleaned? I see her scratching both ears. I'm going to try to clean her ears again later today w/ my mom's help, possibly after she has finished all her meals.

kalina82 06-27-2006 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
Ok. I didn't smell anything when I was cleaning her ears cuz I could only smell the ear cleaner. Is it normal for them to scratch their ears the day after they've been cleaned? I see her scratching both ears. I'm going to try to clean her ears again later today w/ my mom's help, possibly after she has finished all her meals.

yeah its normal because it feels weird for her

DJ30 06-27-2006 06:44 PM
I cleaned Angel's ears again tonight. She struggled but not as badly as last night. There was still wax in both ears, but they seemed to be better. I can't smell any odour, but I don't know if it's cuz it's masked by the solution. I'll be doing it again tomorrow night.

DJ30 06-28-2006 11:33 AM
Should I be able to smell the odour even though I used the cleaner? If it's an infection or ear mites, would the odour overpower the smell of the cleaner? TCC just thought it was a really strong dog smell. I have a sensitive nose so maybe it smelled worse to me.

DJ30 07-04-2006 02:12 PM
We took Angel to the vet's today because there was still quite a bit of black/brown stuff in her ears, especially the right one, when I cleaned them yesterday. The vet looked in her ears with an instrument and saw quite a bit of stuff in her right ear. She took a swab of it from the right ear, and I'm not sure if she looked at it under microscope. She said that there's normally a little bit of yeast, but there was an abnormal amount. She said that it's not ear mites, and she didn't see any fleas as she checked Angel's skin and hair, which we're very relieved about. Yeast infections are not contagious to other animals. She prescribed ear drops called Surolan. Have any of you heard of it or how effective it is? I'm supposed to put 4-5 drops in Angel's ears twice a day, morning and night, for 2 weeks and then take her back to the vet's to make sure they're better. If they're not, we may need to get a cleansing solution.

DJ30 07-04-2006 02:25 PM
The vet said that there wasn't an excessive amount of stuff but more than normal. We asked how often we should clean Angel's ears, and she said she tells clients not to do it unless there's a reason to. She said we could clean the folds if they're dirty but not to dig into the pocket of the ear canals as it could impact the wax/debris and make things worse or cause an infection. I was cleaning the pockets with Q-Tips, and that's where most of the stuff was.

Do you clean your Yorkies' ears, and if you do, how often do you do it? The breeders told us to do it every time we give her a bath.

woodturningcrea 07-21-2006 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ30
The vet said that there wasn't an excessive amount of stuff but more than normal. We asked how often we should clean Angel's ears, and she said she tells clients not to do it unless there's a reason to. She said we could clean the folds if they're dirty but not to dig into the pocket of the ear canals as it could impact the wax/debris and make things worse or cause an infection. I was cleaning the pockets with Q-Tips, and that's where most of the stuff was.

Do you clean your Yorkies' ears, and if you do, how often do you do it? The breeders told us to do it every time we give her a bath.
Punkin had pretty much the same thing - except the vet said one of her ears was really bad. We have Surolan drops too. Last Friday she spent the day at the Vets so they could clean her ears. It was very yeasty and turns out the smell I thought was her needing a bath was her ears. Yucky!

We now have to clean her ears daily and do the drops. The vet said there wasn't mites, but suspects water or other irritant caused it.

Punkin hates the drops but will still still forever while I clean them. As soon as I get the surolan bottle near her she freaks. That part takes two of us.

Ton Ton 07-22-2006 06:27 AM
Dandruff & Black Specks
 
It's so funny that you mention that! My Kahlua has had the same thing. And I was wondering the same thing. But I realized that now it is flea dust! She has never been outside due to her illness but I have an outdoor cat that we took under our wing and I'm sure she probably has fleas! I couldn't figure out how Kahlua was getting fleas when she never went outside. I bathe her at least once a week and give her Front Line once a month! But you really have to watch, fleas can be brought in your home so easily! You may be bringing them in on your clothes not even knowing it. I live in the country and there are always strays coming to my house. So I know there probably bringing fleas as well! My vet said that Johnson's Baby Shampoo will kill fleas and is safe on your puppies eyes. He said just make sure when you are shampooing to let it sit on them for a minute for rinsing them off! Anyway I hope my tips help and good luck!!!:D

bonmur 07-22-2006 07:19 AM
Another thing to know about dandruff . My forst little yorkie years ago had forever dandruff when I picked her up. I could never get rid of it. Come to find out she had cheytella mites ( walking dandruff) I used the meds they gave me for it and brushed her out one time really good with a fle comb. It took forever but you wouldnt believe the difference in her coat after that one flea comb brushing. In fact I think IU used the teeny tiny flea comb. He coat was beautiful and not so boingy after that.
Bonnie

DJ30 07-22-2006 08:06 PM
Well, we took Angel to the vet's on Fri. to have her ears rechecked, and she said there's no sign of infection in either ear. There was some wax though. She said to keep the drops just in case. Regarding her skin, she said it's ok if her coat is a little dry. She thought it looked fine and that we don't need to do anything. She did say we could use a shampoo with oatmeal in it, which we will probably do after we finish with the one we're using.


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