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Kona 06-11-2006 07:28 AM
Yuck!
 
I was going to go look at a little puppy this morning, but before I left I wanted to check the pedigrees... I was very disappointed to see that they bred the female with her father. YUCK. I quickly e-mailed the couple to tell them that I won't be coming today to see the pup...

chachi 06-11-2006 08:37 AM
That is yucky

xBUTTERCUPx 06-11-2006 09:24 AM
Ewww...that is like having a child with your father. That idea just bothers me!

Dan & Corinne 06-11-2006 09:54 AM
How did you look up the pedigree? The AKC site asks for the registration number. Did the breeder supply you with the numbers?

Dan and I are going to start looking for a new baby soon so if there is a way to check the pedigree that would be very helpful and time saving.

Please let us know.

Thank you

mustangbee 06-11-2006 09:55 AM
Yuck is right!!!!!!
I'd pass on that one for sure!!!!

Kona 06-11-2006 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne
How did you look up the pedigree? The AKC site asks for the registration number. Did the breeder supply you with the numbers?

Dan and I are going to start looking for a new baby soon so if there is a way to check the pedigree that would be very helpful and time saving.

Please let us know.

Thank you

Well the people I was going to visit had a classified listing on AKC. So I was able to click the links and pay $8 for a 4 generation online report. I've asked another breeder to give me the AKC numbers for both the sire and the dam. I'm going to look those up before I purchase it. http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm

Rae Rae 06-11-2006 12:53 PM
UGh whats wrong w/ those people? :confused: :eek:

Kona 06-11-2006 04:22 PM
I'm not sure what is wrong with them. But what was more surprising was finding their ad on the AKC site... I know AKC doesn't monitor what is posted but the breeders are members of AKC-licensed or member clubs that have AKC pups available.

MyTrixie143 06-11-2006 04:29 PM
I just want to put my two cents in here.
In-breeding can be a good thing. Only when done by one who is really experienced in breeding and genetics. The only time it should be done is to improve that particular line of dogs or to keep a certain trait. It is a very complicated process and usually the breeder will keep the pups for themselves. So it can be a good thing, but only for top knotch knowlegeable breeders who want the very best not those who just stick two dogs together whether or not they are related and are just in it for the money (that would then be horrible and sick and you would end up with a puppy with lots of problems). Bottom line is it should only be for the experienced breeders who know alot about dna and genetics. I doubt that is the case with these people though because the experienced good breeders who do this keep the pups or they are sold to approved homes for alot of money.

Kona 06-12-2006 06:46 AM
Grrr... I just looked up the pedigree of another sire and dam and I saw the same thing!! I must be missing something big time. I e-mailed them and asked what the purpose was of doing it that way.

DianaB 06-12-2006 11:50 AM
When I got Reuger's pedigree I noticed that he came from inbreeding. I wasn't too happy about it but Reuger's a great puppy. He's almost a year old and has no health problems other than an allergy to corn. He's smart and intelligent and very loving. Would I have gotten him if I had known that? I'm not sure. Would I buy another one that was inbred? Yes, if it was from a responsible breeder.

Kona 06-12-2006 02:22 PM
Okay, I'm on the newer end of owning a Yorkie or even a dog. Another breeder e-mailed me back saying "Yes, It's line breeding, And they throw exellent show dogs." Are there certain questions that I should ask? Should this matter to me? Should I keep looking? I know these are all things that one could say I would need to make the decision on, but really I have no background in this, so I'm bringing it to the experts. :)

JeanieK 06-12-2006 02:28 PM
This practice is not uncommon with professional breeders that know what they are doing. It is not something that a novice should try but in the animal world it is done frequently. Horses, Cattle etc. That is how they set certain desired traits.

MyTrixie143 06-12-2006 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kona
Okay, I'm on the newer end of owning a Yorkie or even a dog. Another breeder e-mailed me back saying "Yes, It's line breeding, And they throw exellent show dogs." Are there certain questions that I should ask? Should this matter to me? Should I keep looking? I know these are all things that one could say I would need to make the decision on, but really I have no background in this, so I'm bringing it to the experts. :)
Ask them how long they have been breeding, how long have they researched inbreeding and everything that goes with it and why they are inbreeding, what traits are they looking to improve or keep, and it is that important that you have to inbreed rather than breeding two dogs who are not related. Ask them how well they know the genetic history and dna's of these dogs. So many questions to ask, you should be able to tell from their responses what their real motives are and if you can trust them. Inbreeding has resulted in excellent dogs, you just have to know what you are doing, which alot of people do not have clue and just stick two dogs together.

Kona 06-13-2006 04:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTrixie143
Ask them how long they have been breeding, how long have they researched inbreeding and everything that goes with it and why they are inbreeding, what traits are they looking to improve or keep, and it is that important that you have to inbreed rather than breeding two dogs who are not related. Ask them how well they know the genetic history and dna's of these dogs. So many questions to ask, you should be able to tell from their responses what their real motives are and if you can trust them. Inbreeding has resulted in excellent dogs, you just have to know what you are doing, which alot of people do not have clue and just stick two dogs together.

Thank you so much for your advice. I just e-mailed them so we'll see what they say.


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