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pebblesmama 04-13-2005 09:12 AM
Something is definitely weird about this breeder. I breed Yorkies and I always welcome people to my home. In fact, I wouldn't sell one any other way. I want to meet the people and assess them before I let one of my puppies go to some stranger I don't know. As far as disease, I have a sink and antibacterial soap available and I always ask prospective buyers to wash their hands before they handle the puppies.
By the way, in the picture of the mom, did it look like she only has three legs?

Cielo 04-13-2005 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pebblesmama
By the way, in the picture of the mom, did it look like she only has three legs?
at 1st i thought that too, but i think it's just the angle of the picture? :confused:

debi_s 04-13-2005 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by orinskye
yes i agree........ aimee are you sure that was for her puppies???? i thought she had killed her and stolen the baby out of her womb and tried to pass it off as hers :confused: maybe im talking about a different one . hell i dont know :confused:
That is the story I remember......but the "killer" was really looking for a baby. I believe they became aquainted with one another over the internet...... some 'dog-type' chat/forum.
Wow!!!! How scary is that.

As for the breeder / visiting question...those responses just feel "yucky" to me.....I cannot find a good reason to continue dealing with them..... I hope you can find an adorable puppy that is somewhere you can visit and get to know the breeder...remember, this is a person you will likely need to call one day for some info or advice.......
TRUST YOUR GUT!!!!!!! You know what is the right thing to do!

bettyeanne 04-13-2005 09:31 AM
I believe debi_s & orinskye are right .... the lady that was killed just happened to be a dog breeder who met her killer on a board. The killer really wanted her baby! It was sooo sad and gruesome! This lady sounds like she is looking for excuses!

lily's mom 04-13-2005 09:35 AM
Kristy,
The Sugarbear name, Missouri, and God Bless all rang a bell w/ me. I bet the kennel name is Kingdom Pups. I live about 30 minutes from this breeder. My Lily came from her. I also asked about going to her house to see the pups but I also heard the disease thing. I contacted her when the pups were about 4 weeks so had to wait awhile. While waiting, she gave me regular updates, let me know about vet visits, etc. I too was concerned but purchased from her and am EXTREMELY pleased, except for potty training.
If there is anything you would like to know about her, please contact me.

lily's mom 04-13-2005 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cielo
what?!?!? :confused:
that's juss friggin confusing, what does that mean?!? i'm dyin to know?!? :confused:
What she was referring to was recently a woman made friends with a breeder under the prtense of buying a pup. The breeder was preg. The "buyer" cut her baby out of her stomach. This was on national news. Pretty unreal I know. The breeder was from Skidmore, Mo. and the buyer was from Kansas I believe. The baby is alive and with her father but of course the mother died. Outrageous isn't it!!!

aimee 04-13-2005 09:53 AM
Yup, that's the one I meant. I thought maybe she was trying to just push it out there as an excuse. Either a very shady on or she's very paranoid? :confused:

Cielo 04-13-2005 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lily's mom
What she was referring to was recently a woman made friends with a breeder under the prtense of buying a pup. The breeder was preg. The "buyer" cut her baby out of her stomach. This was on national news. Pretty unreal I know. The breeder was from Skidmore, Mo. and the buyer was from Kansas I believe. The baby is alive and with her father but of course the mother died. Outrageous isn't it!!!
YEA . . . i heard that story on local news (*here in NYC*) but the news here didn't tell too many details, that's why i didn't know what the breeder meant when she referred to "ladies who raised puppies killed".

i've never heard about breeders being killed and their puppies stolen, is this a common occurance? :confused: :(

that's horrible :mad:

lily's mom 04-13-2005 10:10 AM
I think paranoid hits it on the head. When I met her to pick up my angel she was fine though. She spent a good long while going over eeeeevery thing. She had a care package for Lily and was very prepared. I was worried that I made a mistake going with her because of the way she acted but Lily is just absolutely perfect. When went straight to the vet after I got her. My vet obviously didn't know her but did give her accolades for how clean and socialized and well taken care of that Lily was. I hope you don't think I have any vested interest in this breeder because I don't. I am just trying to rest your mind about any pup that you would get form her. I think she is a real small outfit and her breeding stock are also her babies. She was late middle age and not real hip.

aimee 04-13-2005 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lily's mom
I think paranoid hits it on the head. When I met her to pick up my angel she was fine though. She spent a good long while going over eeeeevery thing. She had a care package for Lily and was very prepared. I was worried that I made a mistake going with her because of the way she acted but Lily is just absolutely perfect. When went straight to the vet after I got her. My vet obviously didn't know her but did give her accolades for how clean and socialized and well taken care of that Lily was. I hope you don't think I have any vested interest in this breeder because I don't. I am just trying to rest your mind about any pup that you would get form her. I think she is a real small outfit and her breeding stock are also her babies. She was late middle age and not real hip.
Ahhh, well there you go. I'm so glad to hear that Lily is doing so well. Paranoid does sound about right in this case. It's just interesting, I really haven't heard this before. I've heard that people only want to ship, don't want you to see their home - but never for this reason. She may want to think about changing her policy. While it's great that her pups are so clean, etc, it is offputting to potential buyers who have been told to expect to be able to see these things from a good breeder. Ya know?

lily24 04-13-2005 10:15 AM
weird
 
She could be weary b/c she dosnt know who you are and may not want strangers knowing where she lives???????? Weird........ Sometimes its so hard to understand ones train of thought. :confused:

lily's mom 04-13-2005 10:30 AM
Hey lily24 I assume your yorkies name is lily. That seems to be a pretty popular name, huh? I even noticed another user named lily's mom. I wanted name some kind of flower name and liked lily best. my sister said she wasn't big enough to be a whole lily and should name her 'petal' instead. I'm thinking that may be I should have. O well, great minds think alike, right? lol

lily24 04-13-2005 10:51 AM
Hey Lily's mom yes my dogs name was Lily. Dont have her any more but she is at a very very very good home. I had her for 2 yrs then had to give her away b/c I moved :cry: is how I felt. Now that I am established I am looking for a male yorkie. I want to name him Emery that is if he looks like one :) Only prob is Im not having very good luck finding him.

StewiesMom 04-13-2005 10:54 AM
It definitely turned me off. I understand that there have been good puppies that have come from her, but I still think it's a little weird that she wouldn't let me come and I still think she may be up to no good.

Maybe she's discriminating because I'm from Chicago? Am I going to come murder her? Nope.

She probably doesn't have the stud or something and is pretending she does. That's what I think the best case scenario could be.

jesscruz 04-13-2005 11:09 AM
oh pleeze i think it's an exscuse on thier part there is absolutely no reason what so ever not to show someone a puppy before buying it! it's like going shopping blind folded! and who does that no one.


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