Not to sound rude but I find it hard to believe that some one charging 1500 for a pup isn't making money. Now if they only breed once a year then ok. But most have at least 2 females that they breed. You figure if each female has just 2 pups each you are looking at 6000. Now I have never bred Yorkies so I will admit I don't know everything that is involved. But I still think there is money being made there.

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You know those people are crazy. You can't totally guarantee a dogs weight like that and their prices are just bonkers. I can't see selling much less buying a dog in those price ranges. Sad how some people out there are all about the money. While looking for my Lex I did find a site that was charging upwards of $10k for a dog.

Although I love the breed there is no way I can see buying at their prices. But I guess there is a sucker born every minute and lots of folks that think if they pay way more they get way better.

I don't know if they are making money or not but I can tell you there is alot of expense in having a pregnant bitch and all the testing that goes on before the breeding. After the pups are born there is alot of expense in raising a litter of pups to 12wks which is the soonest I would let a pup leave. I have a litter of 5wk old pups and have already spent over 1000.00 in the care and up keep of the pups and the mom while she was pregnant. These pups haven't even had any shots yet. I am expecting to spend a bunch more before they go to their new homes.

if you're not counting a wage for the time and effort of care for the birthing and raising a litter of pups and only considering the cost of supplies and medical costs, then i might agree with that. but i'm sure even at $1500 a pup, it wouldn't begin to compensate a breeder for having to wake up and hand feed a pup every 90 mins or so because it's having problems feeding from its mother.

but the the site with the pups in question goes over the edge. i've no problems with breeders trying to make a profit, but to make a profit at the expense of the health and well being of a dog under her care... and gouging the public in the process... well... that gets a :thumbdown from me.

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Breeding definitely take a lot if you are good breeder and caring. My dad never made a dime when he bred his Pitbulls. But you have these folks that breed and don't do half of the things you mentioned. I don't feel that those people are about much other than the buck.

I am glad to see/hear that there are good breeders out there like yourself. Makes me feel better for the people that will be purchasing in the future.

I totally agree with you. :aimeeyork

expensive...wow. I have never heard of black and red coat? :confused:

wow...how do you know what you are getting with shipped sperm? :confused:

I was just looking at that pup Myjoy. You are right. Something doesn't look right. Poor thing.

I think it is horrible how she list price per lb. She is selling them like they are a slab of beef. with the total tinies being the filet mignon and within the standard is chop meat.

Well I understand the idea of 1500 per pup sounding outragous, at one time I stood in your shoes. However before breeding Bridget I looked into the cost and to be honest it is expensive. You have the pre natal type test on the bitch around 150 here plus if you own the male test on him as well. If you do not own the stud you then have thst fee to deal with anywhere from 200-500 around here. I then had an ultrasound 45, regular check ups, at 30 a pop and then the exray at the end to give an idea of size another 85. Some people dont do the ultrasound, which I agree is a non useable expense really. I also had a emergency c-section which many of these little ones need 545.00. At three to five days old you take them in for a check up and docking, I wouldnt want to do that myself which was 100, I also had to get ll the whelping supplies before we knew we needed a c section, about 100 there too. This does not include the 2 sets of shots, 3 wormings and check ups I get on my pups, nor the puppy pack I give which includes toys, food, blanket, treats, buddy belt and leash, small food and water dish, wee wee pads, and a crate. Yes I send my puppies home with lots of goodies.

This leave me with a cost not including my time or worry over the duration of more than 2000 in my case. For the 3 pups I am selling I walk away with about 2400 in profit, if I add my time in over the twelve week period, I am being paid less than 1 dollar an hour actully it works out some where in the neiborhood of 80 cents and hour. I also have not included other incientals such as gas for to and from the vet, food for the mommy dog, calcium tablets for mom, or the added expense of having to hand raise puppies. My mom did have an infection afterwards due to small placental tissue, which cost me about 245 for the removal and anitboitics to get her better.

I am not in this for the money, because all and all, I make next to nothing, and my real job pays me much, much better. 2400 is less than most people make in a month, and I get it over the span of three, so next time you gasp at the 1500 dollar price tag, be thankful I and many of my breeeder buddies are not charging the 3000-5000 that some do, because then we would have a bit of money to help line our pockets.

SOrry not trying to be rude, just help people understand, yes, some people sell puppies for 700, but many times they get sick puppies from people that have done as little as possible just to make that all mighty dollar. Mine are healthy, happy and well prepared for their new home.

Well Diesel is healthy even tho I only paid 700 for him. I don't believe for a sec that you can't get a healthy puppy for under 1000. I think that it is great that you do so much for your pups. If you are making 2400 profit after recovering your cost then you are making money. I am not by any means saying that is bad. Just saying that you do make money off of pups when they are priced high. I think the cost of raising pups depends a lot on where you live too.

well I hope you have a job that pays you more than 80 cents an hour, you are missing the point...sorry. :rolleyes:

I am glad you you got a healthy puppy, but many dont, or they end up being well outside of the standard. I also offer a fantastic gaurnetee, and send my puppies to their new home everything they need to begin with. Yes, on this litter I am looking to make some money, but the time, money and effort that goes into these guys is a lot, and I am down to being paid 80 cents an hour for my time. Not to mention the fact that Bridget had 4 puppies, many have one , two or possibly three puppies. Had Bridget had one puppy I would have been in the hole well over 1000 bucks.

I think it is wrong of you to think that because I charge what I do, that I am ripping people off. Honestly I am charging far less than many breeders, around here, I am extreamly well price esp with what I do extra.

If you got a standard size, healthy puppy, with a good gaurntee, and a purebred yorkie consider yourself one of the few lucky ones, many dont, and for prices like that have unpaper dogs that you really dont know if they are what you paid for. I actully know of one person who spent 2500 on a dog, only to find out they were lied to and when they got the paper found out not only was the dog not akc, but a few generations back was mixed with a chi. to reduce its size.

DOnt critize when 1, you dont understand, and 2, you have no first hand idea what it takes to raise these babies. The price is also only making me money if I do sell them, and as most breeders will tell you, giving these guys up is like giving up a child. I would place it in a home for free if it was the right home and they had not the means, but I also have people who know what they will get, and reccomend me to others.

I don't think she was trying to criticize you. Many people on here have said that "to sell puppies for a profit is wrong" and basically immoral. What i got from her comment was that the idea that people sold them without making a profit was unrealistic, but some are making one 3 times over. If that was the case no one would sell puppies they would give them away. And how many have, or knows someone who breeds puppies and gives them all away.
Come on 3000.00 to 10,000.00 for a puppy, and many that are not capable of reproduction or not even healthy. Now that is a total rip off. I am not mad about it nor do i criticize anyone who charges upwards of 1500.00, but on the same token you can purchase a quality, healthy yorkie for much less. I paid much less for both of mine and they are very healthy (even according to the vet) and I have pedigrees on both with very healthy DNA lines (akc)

There is alot of expense in raising/breeding yorkies. If you can make a profit .... I say "Why not?". I think it took me about 3 years of breeding to say "oh, look I made some money!".

Price doesn't reflect the quality of dog you may get.

That site is disgusting! :mad: I have NO use for people that breed tinies to produce more tinies! They are greedy, money hungry monsters!!!!! :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

IMHO,

for 3k-10k, i would expect at the very least:
- documentation for all possible health/genetic tests of the parents
- documentation for all possible health/genetic tests of the puppy
- a lengthy if not lifetime guarantee against congential defects
- papered registration from akc
- documented pedigree
- champions in pedigree
- written guarantee of adult size (if i'm paying 10k for a 2 lb adult, i better be getting a puppy that will become a 2 lb adult)
- written guarantee of dog conforming to breed standards
- a nice puppy goodie package

for the under 1k range, i wouldn't expect all that. it would be a crapshoot as far as how healthy and free of genetic defects, and how many tests were done of the parents as well as the puppy. some will fare well, some will not.

:D for 10k, i want all that and the guarantee that it can do my laundry every week

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I totally agree that the dog better be able to do a lot for that $10k including the laundry and taking care of my son. :) I have no problem paying for a quality dog but some folks have gone way above and beyond when selling a pet quality dog with no breeding rights.

While there are a lot of reputable breeders out there...there are also a ton of dirt bags just in it for the buck and sadly couldn't care a whit about what is produced.

Anyhow..I did notice on the site with the $10k puppy (which included S&H) that it made no mention of any genetic testing and they were willing to let their pups go from the age of 8 weeks (even willing to ship at that age no matter what the size of the dog). Said they get a small puppy pack and they had their first set of boosters. Nothing more. I will see if I can dig up the site again. I deleted a ton of bookmarked sites after I got Lex. The guarantee gave you a year on Congenital and it made no mention of lifetime support or the request of taking the dog to rehome in case of need. They also only gave 48 hours to get the dog checked once it left their facilities.

Thanks for helping me Elegntorchid. I guess I didn't word it right. I am not trying to criticize you at all. Yes I got a standard size(he is prob a tad small right now tho. only 4.5 pounds) , healthy puppy, with papers, and a guarantee. If you read my first post I said that I didn't know anything about raising pups. I never said that you are ripping people off. I said that if you are charging 1500 per pup then as Elegntorchid said it is unrealistic to think you won't make money. I never said that was a bad thing at all. It seems as if you missed my point. For the record I didn't say or imply that I had any intentions of breeding my dog. I didn't buy him to breed him. I bought him to be a pet. A spoiled one at that. LOL

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When I was checking into getting a puppy and reading about Yorkies, one of the places I checked was the AKC website to see the characteristics of a "standard" yorkie and they stated the weight should be between 4 and 7 pounds.

Can't something be done to shut down operations like this woman's website or not allow the puppies to be registered?

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your welcome emmsmom, i just didn't find your comments critical.
i don't think they can refuse to register them as long as they are what they are suppose to be, especially that sometimes people get a smaller one without trying to, if they changed it those people would not be able to register their puppies. that would be bad for them. so i guess it is a no win situation.

Sorry you guys, I did go back and reread the post, and you are right, I was the one that jumped the gun.

I guess I am so tired of people saying that paying more than 1000 dollars is ridiculous. I would never chare more than fair market value, and I do give much more than average. WHen I bought Bridget I barely got a gaurntee, and the snack size bag of food, not enough for two meals. I knew then I would be diffrent and also go through to interview my prospective homes to know my babies would always be well taken care of.

I would never dream of charging the 2-10 grand for a baby, and agree if I were, it better crap gold nuggets! I do garentee a healthy breed standard, well solcialized puppy. I have also seen others get the crap end, around here, less than 1000 will get you non papered, large, and often sickly pups.

I guess you are right, I just look at the time and efoort to be more than the money, for me it isnt about that, it is about the breed, the babies, and finding those incredible families who will love my babies forever.

Again, I am sorry, please forgive me aggitation, I got up on the wrong side of the bed.

Thats ok don't worry about it. :) I will be the first to admit that I have jumped the gun many times so you aren't alone. I can see how it would bother you especially if this is something you have to deal with on a daily basis. At least you know your babies are well taken care of. ;)

marlee, don't worry 'bout it. we all have our days, and from what you said you do very well by your pups and have nothing to be defensive about. If you know you are doing right by your pups you don't anyone anything.

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Marley don't worry it's ok. I applaud your efforts in what you are doing when you breed your pups. I wish more folks went that route. Maybe when I am ready for a companion for Lex I will look you up.
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Thanks for the support. I too wish there were more that went out of their way to ensure these little guys be healthy!!!It is so sad to see people breed these guys in such a way that you are almost sure to end up with a sickly puppy. It infuriates me so, that some people are in it for the money, as for me, I just cant get enough of these guys :p . I will post pics soon of the babies, they are getting so big!!! :animal-pa

Crazy! Keeley is huge (at 8 pounds) compared to these tiny things! And I can't believe they are calling them "teaspoon yorkies".

It's really sad people will sacrific the health of these poor little pups for money!

I particularly like the dogs this lady produces. Hers come from generations of tinies. I can also see she cares for her dogs and knows what she is doing. If I had that kind of money I would buy on in a heart beat. I believe in this breeder eyes shut. :animal36