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Lol....yeah...I'm going to breed Yorkies and Shetland Ponies...see what kind of coat I get.... :D Francie |
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Look, it's so simple - take Retrievers, for instance. There is the Black Lab Retriever, the Yellow Lab Retriever, the Chocolate Lab Retriever, and the Golden Lab Retriever. In the end, they are ALL Retrievers!! It's the same with Yorkies. Biewers are Yorkshire terriers. Period. They happen to have a different color coat, but when you look at all the other physical aspects of the dog, it is identical to the standard colored Yorkshire, which, I might add, there are several colors recognized by the AKC and some not. Does that mean those that aren't are less a Yorkie? The bone structure is the same, the body is built the same, with Biewer coloring, the tails don't get docked, but the dog is the exact same as any other Yorkshire terrier. It's getting ridiculous to go through this arguement every time someone asks what exactly is a Biewer. I have a Biewer Yorkshire Terrier. He's not a Biewer. He's a Biewer Yorkshire Terrier. Just like my dearly departed dog I had 13 years ago wasn't a Chocolate - he was a Chocolate Labrador Retriever. Now, if that's not simple enough to understand, then I'm just gonna stay out of the arguement from now on. And don't anyone tell me that my Matthias is simply a Biewer, a seperate breed. He's not. He's a Biewer Yorkshire Terrier. |
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Please understand this is not an argument coming from me. I am just resorting back to the facts per Germany. |
You can disagree with me all you want. But an autopsy of the dogs will show they have the same bone structure. So far as personality? That's a sorry way to base an arguement that they are different breeds. Every person has a different personality, does that mean that some are human and some aren't? I've known beautiful, cuddly, gentel Rottweilers and I've know some that were meaner than a king cobra. I've known extremely hyper Retrievers, and I currently know one right now that is the calmest retriever I've ever come across - does that mean she's not a retriever? Opinions are opinions and every one is entitled to them. But facts are facts. And the fact is that Biewers yorkies are Yorkshire terriers with a different coat color. Just like having a silver Yorkie, or a chocolate Yorkie, or a blue Yorkie. It's no less a Yorkie, it's not a different breed. It's just a different color. Biewer Yorkies are Yorkshire terriers that happen to be a different color. |
:confused: I'm so confuuuuuuuuuuused. I need a score card, I've lost track of who is fer um and who is agin um. Do we all agree that they are all dogs. A dog of a different color is still dog. Or was that a horse. Now I'm gettin um mixed up with the shetland ponies. Lordy Lordy Lordy. |
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Chocolate to Chocolate Pairings bbEE x bbEE will give 100% chocolate puppies. bbEE x bbEe will give 100% chocolate puppies. One half will carry yellow. bbEe x bbEe will give the probability of 3/4 chocolate pups, and 1/4 pale yellow pups. Now, if your trying to stay with the Biewer color, which is three, you will continue to pair healty colored Biewer dogs to get same. Eventually the genes that are produced will get stronger and there won't be a "break" in the pattern, thus you will strong Biewers. The genetic makeup will change, this will effect over time, not only color but diffent characteristics. Some for the better, some not. This is where good breeding will take over. This is the path that the Biewer has been taking over the years and hopefull it will continue. We don't know it all, and like any other breed this will be a controversy that will continue. I don't mind talking about it at all, some find it boring, but I do enjoy learning, it's what keep us going. I myself would love to see them develope into strong dogs that will stand on their own merit.... |
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Wow what a great thread! Who needs prime time TV? Heh, and without the commercials to boot! ;) Biewers are IMHO beautiful dog, are they yorkies? are they a seperate breed? are Biewers the result of a a fissure in the time space continuum allowing them to cross into our universe? Honestly I dunno. These and many other questions plague me yet I still sleep at night. For those that complain that yorkietalk is nothing more than an ongoing domestic squabble, to some extent I agree. However there are also a lot of great informative threads out there. DO you have cable TV? Do you watch EVERY channel? I do and I don't. Think of it as using your TV clicker, you skip the threads you don't want to read and read the ones you do. Hey I don't watch reality TV because I don't like it. Why bother when I have threads like this that are better! Please don't give up on yorkietalk because of the squabbling. I don't much care for many of the threads here, but hey, I don't read them. I have however learnt SO MUCH about yorkies here that the good FAR outweighs the bad. |
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:rolleyes: Don't know why I'm getting into this mess, but here goes! What is a Biewer? CHristman19 on post #19 gave you the answer to that one. Now what IBC wants and consider is a different issue that Christman also is informing us as well as Yorkie Rini. The Biewer originated from Yorkies, twenty some years after, according To IBC (Dagmar) the goal is not to have to breed Biewer and yorkies at all. That some day they will become there own seperate breed. ;) Quote:
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This is such an inane argument. I have a Biewer and he is a Yorkie, plain and simple. He is just different colors. Obviously that concept is over the heads of some that post here. I have been lurking on this forum for a few months and occasionally post. I have learned a few things here and there but it is hard to learn anything when an awful lot of what you have to read through here is mean-spirited idiocy...especially when it comes to this subject. |
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