Anyone know this breeder?
 

Does anyone have any experience with www.enchantedbabies.com? Located in Bloomfield, Indiana. Considering buying a little guy from her.

They are awfully cute! The pricing seems good, too. She sure has a lot of pups. Do you live near enough to visit? maybe someone here will know her :D

I guess that's the thing that concerns me; she has a lot of dogs. It would be a 3-4 hour drive, and I'd hate to make the trip if she's a kennel.

That is a long drive. Have you spoken to her? It would make a nice day trip, if you like to drive, and I certainly don't think that is too many dogs for a person to have if they have the proper facilities. I have six :rolleyes: and when I get crazy I can imagine more. (not on bathday - today)

With that many boys that she uses for breeding - she has to keep them up and away from each other and image when the girls are in heat. So with that many she has to be doing something to avoid accidents and to know which one is the sire, to say nothing about keeping her house clean of pee. She has cute pups (ears could be smaller on some and hair trimmed off tips of ears). I wonder how small her females are that she breeds to - since she states "Specializing in Tiny Yorkshire Terriers?" Her health guarantee seems to be okay, but I would ask for it in writing with a contract. I would also want to know the pedigrees on them - to know the lineage and history.
Nice pictures though!
Let us know how it goes. :p
T.

Is there a place she can check if they have a USDA license? Would this means she keeps them in a kennel?

I dont know this breeder but have written the website down because I want to get another yorkie in the future and I am in Indiana too

This is one of the breeders I have been considering for my seecond puppy. like to know the size of her females they look really small. I do not like how some breeders are now targeted for tiny yorkies .

Yes, it is a long drive, and with the price of gas, an expensive one. I have not spoken with her, just contact through e-mail. She answered a question about the current weight on one of her male pups. Waiting for a response about the Dam of the pup.

I just have two Yorkies, so I can only imagine the work of 6 or more! I'd love to have 5, (of course, like you, on bath day I have second thoughts, I vow , "no more".) But I know I'd never be able to keep them all in long coats, as I do my girls, now, and I have a passion for these long coats. :)

Thanks for turning the light bulb on in my aging brain. Yes, indeed, with that many males, she has to keep them separated. Oh my, more than likely kenneled.

Yes, I agree, some of the pups have big ears. I, personally, like a tiny ear.

Yes, I would want to know the pedigree's and lineage.

Hubby mentioned to me this morning, that he would really prefer not to buy a 6 month old male. Says more than likely this will be our last baby, (at our ages) and he'd like to go through "puppy-hood" again. (See why I love this guy?)

Cindy, very good point. Gosh, I love this group.

Lisa, I forgot where you live in In. I'm in Valparaiso.
Sheila

I'll let you know if I find out the size of her females. I think, people are concerned because today, the tinier females are usually not bred because they don't come from tiny lines, because they don't come from tiny lines. 26 years ago, I got my first Yorkie from a show breeder that bred tiny lines.

It's good to be concerned, because a "throw-back" could kill the Dam.

My little Kia is 4#s, and I would never dream of breeding her, because she didn't come from tiny lines. She was just a small puppy.

I have not heard of this breeder, but if I were you I would call and ask her if her dogs are kept inside her house or outside. This would help in knowing if she is a kennel.
Also many breeders have several studs and I am sure they are kept away from the females in heat. Or at least I would hope because no one wants accidents to happen. Mine are kept seperate, because if not then accidents would happen and then of course the males will fight.....

Im in Indianapolis

I have never heard of this breeder. I too get tired of the bashing alot of breeders take before we really even know what we are talking about. She only has one more adult yorkie than I do and believe me, there are ways to keep males and females seperate when needed and have them in your home. Like I said, I don't know her or her setup, but I can honestly say that unless someone has had a negative experience with a breeder, that I get really tired of hearing the negative about them when we have no clue ourselves. Her babies may live as well as we do, we don't know otherwise. If she welcomes people to her home, that should tell you alot. If she doesn't, then and only then would I say there is anything going on that shouldn't be. Furthermore..."specializing in tiny yorkies" How many times have I heard lately "he's gonna be too small to show or she's too small to breed" Maybe she is implying that she doesn't have larger yorkies over 7 lbs. My 6-7 pounders are tiny to me. Point is...if you don't know the person, don't judge.

Thanks, Robbie. It's good to hear that it's not an excessive number of males. I think the pictures of her Yorkies on her site, appear that she takes good care of them.

I agree, "tiny" is different in many persons opinion.

Sheila

Yes, I will ask her that question. It's a good one. After thinking about it, I'm not going to assume it's a kennel just because of the number of dogs, 'cause I remember meeting a man that fosters a large number of dogs and they are all in the house, and the house is clean and so are the dogs. The people just work harder.

In general I think her dogs are cute. I like the fact that she shows the parents pictures. A " show quality" pup won't sell for $1,200 from what I have found. Her guarantee looks ok, but I would ask about the knees and make sure the vet has checked to make sure they are not loose. I am a breeder with a small " kennel" and my dogs are very happy and healthy. I am home all day and probably spend as much time with my dogs as people who work. They have a inside area with a bed and toys and can go through a door to outside. They also have time daily to run loose on my 6 acres and go with me to places if they like cars rides. At night I go out and groom them and spend lots of one on one time too. All my pups are born in my bedroom and raise in my house. So yes, I guess I am a "kennel" but my dogs come first. ( ask my family) :D It's a long drive, but you will have your companion for aprox. 14 yrs so I guess I would make the drive if you see a pup you like and meet the breeder and her dogs. In the long run it's better safe than sorry. take care, Jeanief

I think that her dogs r cute but there is others ways to keep males and females away when needed like if she has a big house she can buy little gates and section her house when needed to keep them seperate or maybe she has a huge shed like structure that she made over on the inside and it is sectioned off like a horse stable (but it will have nicer conditions than a horse stable of course) and maybe one side is for dogs and one side is for baths and grooming well hope my opinion helps :D

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what is wrong with "kennels". We raise Field Champion beagles. To meet AKC standards, of course they are kenneled. We have kennels and dog runs. Plus an eight acre 'running pen" to train them in. We usually have about twenty of our own, plus about five to ten of other peoples that we are training. Does this make us bad? Our dogs are treated almost like family. We spend more on their food per month (highest quality) than we do ours. They have many more doctor visits than we do. my husband knows each one by name and they all know him. i think when people write about their distaste for kennels, they need to be aware that kennel is just a word. It's how the kennel is kept that makes the difference. We proudly use kennel in our name. We are Indian Hills Kennels.

Well said!
It is all how someone keeps their place - whether they are inside or kenneled.

Questions - we are all here to help one another and should never make judgements and I do not think that anyone did here. The questions were all great! And good ones for one to ask the breeder. I am sure that the breeder, if good - would want someone to ask. I would! It tells me that the person buying is going to make a good home for one of my babies to go to - because this person really cares.
Sometimes when we think - puppy time - many of us have bought only because of the thought of have a furball to take home and not thinking about this life-long decision. Sometimes it works out great and sometimes not.
The best thing is to go and check out the place with your questions and see how it goes. You will know if it is a great place to get your new baby from or not. And even though it is far to travel - at least you can travel - call it a joy trip for the day. At least you will be out and get to see new sites and all. Stop and have a great lunch and maybe get a new puppy!
P.S. I would prefer to buy a 6 months old male - this way you know what you are getting and in time (usuallu pretty quick) they will get use to you as their new mom.
Let us know how it goes! Good luck! We are supporting you! :D

I am not judging anyone. and yes people have different opinions of tiny. My Albert is tiny and healthy under 2 lbs at 7 months. Her females look to be small maybe the do weigh more just on a tiny frame. I think her babies are cute and look to be well taken care of hince the reason i have been looking on her site long before this thread was started.

Nothing wrong with kennels. But I personally couldn't put my babies in one and be in my home and know that they were out in a seperate facility wanting nothing more than to be with me and in and in -home environment, getting love and attention all day long. I realize that bigger breeds would be impossible to keep them all inside. Didnt mean to step on anyone's toes here, but for my dogs, i could never do it. One of the reasons we are going to build a doggie room with sky lights and the works right off our den in our new home that we plan to build in next yr.

True, true, true, after their baths today - I love sitting and brushing them all. They sit at the door trying to get away and I just brush them one by one about 4 times until they are all dry. As soon as the weather gets a little more steadily warm, I will shave the black/silver part of their coats. I will leave Zowie long and I am thinking Robyn and maybe Quattro. The four 8 mo olds love to be brushed, Zowie and Bronx don't like it. Bronx is real, real curly coated - so his coat goes first. Teddy is frizzy right now, but so was Zowie, so I will shave him and I think next year his coat will be pretty and I will grow it. Quattro's fur is soooo thick he is like a teacup sheepdog (10#). It is a lot of brushing, but he is a lover. I just hate the bath part (back-breaking) and I don't care for trimming them up as they ALL hate that. I still don't have a good system for ears, nails and butts. Luckily it doesn't have to be done so often.

I know what you mean. I have 6 now (one is my older daughter's dog that will be moving out with her soon - so we will be down to 5). Bath day takes the whole morning. I don't know how she does with 13 and not to mention the puppies. If I had that many (and I wish I did have more some days) - I would hire help, I guess. And I had one of my females just finish her heat (no - we did not breed) and now have one more that started (not breeding her either). What a trip - the males were going nuts - crying and howling and not eating and one constantly paced back and forth all day long. It is driving me nuts. Luckily one male will leave soon (my daughter's) and the other is getting altered - leaving me only one male that can. I feel so sorry for them going through this. We are doing a great job keeping them seprated here at home and using child gates - two high (one learned to jump over them). But anymore than this and the males would have to be in another house - for both our sanity! :eek:
T.

I have all three of my males neutered. It does keep the peace in the house. I had Bronx fixed when Zowie went into heat again. In Dec. one of the boys started to notice his sister and I called that day and took them both in. I can't really see breeding again, I will probably start getting the girls fixed soon. I might rather get a biewer or another differently colored yorkie, a blonde like Julie or Kim have, or even a chocolate or party color. :D

I didn't intend to criticize anyone that had a "kennel". Just personally, I don't want to buy a Yorkie puppy from a kennel. That's just my personal feelings.
I like when I go to a breeders home and all the Yorkies are under-foot, giving and receiving lots of attention. I've been to breeders homes where they just separate the dogs with baby gates, and large pens. etc. And on the other side of the coin, I've been to a small "kennel" where the Yorkies were kept in a separate building in cages, and they were not the happiest little dogs. Oh, yes, they had a run outside, but from what I could see they spend a lot of time laying on hard wire grates in cages.

I almost agree with you :eek: Zowie and Bronx were raised in a beautiful kennel and have 'wonderful' personalities! Their pups (raised by me) took their great temperament, but I handled them sooooo much as babies and they are even better, especially with brushing. I just think that without kennels, puppies would be so expensive, we could never have afforded one. They actually keep the prices affordable; and they are the ones to keep the lines pure. To raise them well, they must have a great love of their breed and animals in general. Plus, when I decided I could not get rid of my puppies; a friend who raises chi's told me, you just can't play with the puppies and get so attached to them. So I am not sure that is better. Either way, I think the owners/breeders are the ones that make the difference in YOUR puppy - giving them the best start! Even having one litter is a lot of work, 4-5 months hard labor for someone.

I realized I need to clarify my feeling about kennels, I don't wnat to buy from a "commercial" kennel. Hope that makes more sense.

Laura, I'm curious, what do you mean by kennels keep prices affordable and keep lines pure? I'm confused, not sure I understand.

One of my girls came from a private home, where the owner just owned the Dam. This girl is so well-adjusted. My other girl came from a larger breeder, and is very "needy".