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AsCeNsIoN 02-12-2006 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr
If you do decide that you would like to render your dog incapable of reproducing at least discuss the alternative procedures with your vet. Tubal ligation is much less invasive as is simply removing the uterus which is what they do in many other countries like Spain where it is believed that the reproductive hormones are necessary for a healthy life for the animal.

There is also a new less invasive laprascopic procedure as well as a laser procedure which are both easier on the dog.

You may still decide to do the full blown spay but at least you have then explored all options. :)
That makes it sound soooooo severe!! Like I'm about to commit a horrible crime or something. :( I haven't decided what to do. I'm not going to breed her. I'd be lucky to find a yorkie to breed her with, as it took us two years to find her. There are no dogs roaming the streets here, its against the law, so there will be NO accidental pregnancy even if she ever did get out without me, which she won't. There is no over population of dogs here, but there is a HUGE cat problem. The only thing I'm interested in is what is BEST FOR MITZI. I'm not concerened about dealing with her in heat or blood or anything else. Just simply what is the right thing to do for her. If i'm being honest, I would prefer not to have her spayed and just leave her as God intended. I am just worried about her health and would be willing if it means she will have a better life.

icy 02-12-2006 11:02 PM
I have three and two of them have been spayed/neutered, but after seeing what the second went through, pain and sufferring along with a very bad infection, I will never do this again.

Although there are positive and negative reasons for the operation, I have chosen not to do it to my third baby. I didn't sleep for weeks, listening to my baby crying all night in pain, it just broke my heart.

How would you feel if you got your insides taken out because you decided not to have children? I wouldn't like that very much, especially if I didn't have a say in it.....

I don't mean to be rude or offensive, but I just want you all out there to think twice about this procedure, especially if your babies will be well looked after in a home environment and not out running wild.

AsCeNsIoN 02-12-2006 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by icy
I have three and two of them have been spayed/neutered, but after seeing what the second went through, pain and sufferring along with a very bad infection, I will never do this again.

Although there are positive and negative reasons for the operation, I have chosen not to do it to my third baby. I didn't sleep for weeks, listening to my baby crying all night in pain, it just broke my heart.

How would you feel if you got your insides taken out because you decided not to have children? I wouldn't like that very much, especially if I didn't have a say in it.....

I don't mean to be rude or offensive, but I just want you all out there to think twice about this procedure, especially if your babies will be well looked after in a home environment and not out running wild.
You are so NOT being rude or offensive. I am grateful for EVERYONE's individual opinions. If I don't know the pro's and the con's, i'll never be able to decide. :)

hunniebunnie 02-13-2006 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by icy
...I just want you all out there to think twice about this procedure, especially if your babies will be well looked after in a home environment and not out running wild.
i don't think anyone intend for their yorkie to run wild. and no one intend for their dogs to roam the streets, legal or no. and just because you are a very responsible owner, it doesn't mean everyone else in the neighborhood is. and sometimes even the most well intended, well prepared owner isn't 100% fool proof. the unexpected accident, no matter how remote, do have the possibility of happening (unless you keep your yorkie confined in the home 100% of the time). i think it's important for every owner to keep that in mind.

but with that being said, it is the owner's decision whether or not to fix their pet. if you are uncomfortable with the decision and feel that it will negatively impact her health and well being. then by all means, don't do it, seek alternatives. talk to your vet. but if it's just postponing the inevitiable, it's probably better to do it sooner than later. i'm sure yorkies, like humans, will recover better and more quickly a procedure when they're young, strong, and forgetful than when they're older, possibly weaker, with better memory of the trauma.

icy 02-13-2006 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by icy
I don't mean to be rude or offensive, but I just want you all out there to think twice about this procedure, especially if your babies will be well looked after in a home environment and not out running wild.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I didn't mean to be rude or offensive, which the reader cut out, I'm just saying that hopefully everyone will think twice, is all.

My meaning about running wild is without a leash, I didn't mean any offence, sorry if I upset some of our readers.... :(

hunniebunnie 02-13-2006 12:47 AM
i wasn't trying to say that i was offended. but i'm just saying that with the safety and welfare of our pets, we do have to act defensively, act as if you're the ONLY responsible owner, not expect everyone else to be responsible owners, doing what they should. because it's obvious not everyone act responsibly so accidents happen.

but you're right, whenever an elective surgery (and neutering/spaying is considered "elective surgery") is being considered on our pets, it's important to think twice and do all the proper research before proceeding.

val 02-13-2006 11:44 AM
It is to late for me to back out now, I just called the vet and Nelly is out of surgery and in recovery. I was very nervous about getting her done but I would not want to risk her getting pregnant. She is a house dog but loves to get out through the door to run around any chance she can and accidents do happen. I would never forgive myself if she got pregnant and she had complications during the pregnancy or delivery from reading all the valuable info on yt is what convinced me to have her done so much can go wrong with dogs during their pregnancy, so I had her spayed. I am just wondering though, how mad is she going to be at me tomorrow when she comes home, they would not let me take her home today so she has to stay over night which I am not very happy about but they want to monitor her so everything can go ok.

Olivier 02-13-2006 01:18 PM
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It is to late for me to back out now, I just called the vet and Nelly is out of surgery and in recovery. I was very nervous about getting her done but I would not want to risk her getting pregnant. She is a house dog but loves to get out through the door to run around any chance she can and accidents do happen. I would never forgive myself if she got pregnant and she had complications during the pregnancy or delivery from reading all the valuable info on yt is what convinced me to have her done so much can go wrong with dogs during their pregnancy, so I had her spayed. I am just wondering though, how mad is she going to be at me tomorrow when she comes home, they would not let me take her home today so she has to stay over night which I am not very happy about but they want to monitor her so everything can go ok.
The Animal Hospital were I go , always keep the little ones for 1 or 2 days depending on how they are doing .

LuvMy5Yorkies 02-13-2006 02:55 PM
Dogs that are not spayed can be candidates for Pyometra. This is an infection in the uterius(sp). I had a six year old 2 pounder get it and the vet had to give her an emergeny hysterectomy to save her life. Now I get everyone spayed that I'm not breeding. My good friend lost her mix breed at 6 years to it. She is still upset at herself.

SoCalyorkiLvr 02-13-2006 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AsCeNsIoN
That makes it sound soooooo severe!! Like I'm about to commit a horrible crime or something. :( I haven't decided what to do. I'm not going to breed her. I'd be lucky to find a yorkie to breed her with, as it took us two years to find her. There are no dogs roaming the streets here, its against the law, so there will be NO accidental pregnancy even if she ever did get out without me, which she won't. There is no over population of dogs here, but there is a HUGE cat problem. The only thing I'm interested in is what is BEST FOR MITZI. I'm not concerened about dealing with her in heat or blood or anything else. Just simply what is the right thing to do for her. If i'm being honest, I would prefer not to have her spayed and just leave her as God intended. I am just worried about her health and would be willing if it means she will have a better life.
I am sorry if it sounded severe...that was not my intention...i was merely trying to point out that there are alternatives procedures depending on what your desired goals are. :)

Everyone has to weigh the risks vs. the benefits. When I did the calculations ain my head after allof m research I have made the decision NOT to spay my two girls. They are both smaller and they are house dogs and with me and under my supervision 24/7.

I just do not want anyone to be misrepresented to when you talk to vets or others who "bend" the facts or the truth in favor of neutering. I would rather the facts or statistics simply be presented with all of the risks and side effects explained and then each person can decide what is best for their baby.

I would just hope that everyone would research both sides and not just do what your vet says to do because the vet, more often than not, is not telling you everything. There is no law that requires them to advise you like there is for human beings.

red98vett 02-15-2006 06:11 AM
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For a laugh.....but in a perfect world.....? :rolleyes:

BamaFan121s 02-15-2006 06:15 AM
That is funny...I have seen that before. I have some friends and relatives I'd like to sign up for that program. Like, my sister-in-law... :D

livingdustmops 02-15-2006 06:16 AM
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For a laugh.....but in a perfect world.....? :rolleyes:

Good One and oh sooooooooooooo true :D

Carinhosamulher 02-15-2006 06:21 AM
Since the question of how would I feel if my insides were taken out was asked, i can answer that. At age 29 I had to have a hysterectomy. Obviously I can't have more children now. How did it feel? It hurt, but there were pain drugs they gave me. And they will give them to the dogs too especially if you ask for them. It's not as severe as some people make it sound like.

I hope your dog is doing well after the surgery.

Carinhosamulher 02-15-2006 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr
I am sorry if it sounded severe...that was not my intention...i was merely trying to point out that there are alternatives procedures depending on what your desired goals are. :)

Everyone has to weigh the risks vs. the benefits. When I did the calculations ain my head after allof m research I have made the decision NOT to spay my two girls. They are both smaller and they are house dogs and with me and under my supervision 24/7.

I just do not want anyone to be misrepresented to when you talk to vets or others who "bend" the facts or the truth in favor of neutering. I would rather the facts or statistics simply be presented with all of the risks and side effects explained and then each person can decide what is best for their baby.

I would just hope that everyone would research both sides and not just do what your vet says to do because the vet, more often than not, is not telling you everything. There is no law that requires them to advise you like there is for human beings.

Anyone in favor of anything can bend the fact or the truth in favor of their position, including you. There are facts and benefits and statistics that prove altering your pet is more beneficial than not. Just like there are those that prove the opposite.


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