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Elliern 11-17-2020 09:46 AM

My “yorkie” is a schnauzer mix!
 
Ok. First of all this is my fault. I bought her from a pet store!
We had to put down our sweet Abbey at 15 years old in April. I missed her so much. So started looking at yorkie breeders within 2 hours drive from us. We wanted a female since our previous yorkies were females. There were none.
Then looked at rescue sites near us for a young female. There were none.
There is a pet store near a grocery store we go to at times. So one day we just went in to look.
They had 2 female “yorkie” puppies. They were 13 weeks old. One of them just loved us and begged to be taken home. She was bigger than her sister and her general appearance was slightly off. She was black with some tan markings but her body seemed too long. Her ears were mostly perked up. She did not have the little button nose and her coat looked more like fur than hair. The caretaker said she was going to be a little bigger in size, maybe 8-10 pounds and once her puppy coat was gone she would look great. We ignored the warnings and took her home that day. The next day the vet said she was very healthy and the lab work came back good.
She quickly became a wild child. Barks at everything and nothing. Escapes from all harnesses, so we can’t walk her. Yes we bought ‘no escape harnesses’.

Now at 5 1/2 months, It turns out she is a schnauzer mix!

She gets spayed Friday and then we have arranged for a trainer to come do 1:1 training. She uses pee pads in one room only. If she is not in that room she pees and poops where she is. Even though there is a fresh pee pad in every room.
When she is calm, she is playful and loving. But that is only about 30 minutes a day. Once on the morning and once early evening.
We have spent a fortune on her so far, but she is a huge handful for us. I have never re-homed a dog before. But we are talking about doing just that.
She is what she is...not a yorkie and that is not her fault. I honestly am very upset about the whole situation. Does anyone have some real wisdom (not criticism) to share?
Thanks

Lovetodream88 11-17-2020 10:17 AM

Did you do a DNA test or something figure out she wasn't fully yorkie because sometimes there are breeds that are what they are said they just didn't have the best parents bred and might look off breed. She is still very much a puppy and it takes a lot of training when they are are young and a lot of patience. Mine turns 13 weeks this week and she is a handful but she is taking very well to positive training you just have to put the time it. Having a puppy is very much like having a new human baby. Have you looked into a buddy belt harness because they are almost escape proof. With potty training you have to be very very consistent and not give them free run of the house. If you can't watch her then keep her in the one room she uses the pads in. One thing to keep in mind is yorkies tend to have a reputation for being stubborn in potty training and barky. I find that when my puppy Dixie has an accident that its normally my fault for either not noticing her signs that she has to go potty or I didn't take her out when I should have. Puppies take a lot or work.

Elliern 11-17-2020 11:01 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. Don’t know what a buddy belt is, but will look it up.
I plan to ask the vet about dna test at same time she gets spayed and chipped.
We are in our 70’s and have had 3 yorkies over the years and most of our family have or had yorkies, so we are very familiar with the breed. At 5 1/2 months, our puppy does not in the slightest resemble a yorkie. She has naturally short gray wavy fur. Sharp heavy whiskers and very thick muzzle. Everyone who sees her says what a cute schnauzer.
She does not have the run of the house since she is not paper trained. But she is always with us. I keep her on a leash while we clean, cook and eat since our rooms are all open. Pee pads are all around her within easy reach. She only uses one while we are in our sunroom. She won’t go use that one even when the doors are open to the rest of house. We have a very experienced trainer who will evaluate her next week. She doesn’t just chew or bite on things, she actually eats them. We sweep and dry mop the floors daily. But she is a jumper and keeps jumping until she can get the tv remotes, books, plants, lamps. So nothing is where it should be because she will get it and eat it. She ate parts of throw rugs. We were at the vets yesterday for X-rays because she ate something she shouldn’t. She chewed off the screw covers and on our doors and windows. Just now she chewed a hole in one of her toys and was eating the stuffing. I was right here with her. It is a well made Kong chew toy. Looked like she was just chewing on it like normal. Then I saw some stuffing and her mouth was full of it. She tried to bite me while I got it all out of her mouth. 😊

Lovetodream88 11-17-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliern (Post 4818446)
Thanks for the suggestions. Don’t know what a buddy belt is, but will look it up.
I plan to ask the vet about dna test at same time she gets spayed and chipped.
We are in our 70’s and have had 3 yorkies over the years and most of our family have or had yorkies, so we are very familiar with the breed. At 5 1/2 months, our puppy does not in the slightest resemble a yorkie. She has naturally short gray wavy fur. Sharp heavy whiskers and very thick muzzle. Everyone who sees her says what a cute schnauzer.
She does not have the run of the house since she is not paper trained. But she is always with us. I keep her on a leash while we clean, cook and eat since our rooms are all open. Pee pads are all around her within easy reach. She only uses one while we are in our sunroom. She won’t go use that one even when the doors are open to the rest of house. We have a very experienced trainer who will evaluate her next week. She doesn’t just chew or bite on things, she actually eats them. We sweep and dry mop the floors daily. But she is a jumper and keeps jumping until she can get the tv remotes, books, plants, lamps. So nothing is where it should be because she will get it and eat it. She ate parts of throw rugs. We were at the vets yesterday for X-rays because she ate something she shouldn’t. She chewed off the screw covers and on our doors and windows. Just now she chewed a hole in one of her toys and was eating the stuffing. I was right here with her. It is a well made Kong chew toy. Looked like she was just chewing on it like normal. Then I saw some stuffing and her mouth was full of it. She tried to bite me while I got it all out of her mouth. 😊

She still could just be a poorly bred yorkie. Sometimes to many pee pads can be just as bad as not enough but I only outside train so I’m not the best with advise for that. Honestly she sounds like a puppy. They generally eat and put everything in their mouth. She is hitting that age for her adult teeth to be coming in so her mouth may hurt. Bitting can be a normal puppy thing but the trainer should we able to help you train her that bitting isn’t ok. Make sure the trainer only uses positive reinforcement and not any physical punishment.

matese 11-17-2020 07:35 PM

When ever I got a new puppy, I puppy proofed my home just as you would when a bay starts walking. What ever they can reach goes in their mouths. Puppies are the same way. I had the wildest female yorkies, not yappy or barkers, just wild child babies. When I was pad training I used one pad only in one area in one room. A pad in each room can confuse a dog, a pad in only one room the dog knows, that's the place to go. I would definitely get her DNA taken so know for sure just what bred she is or a mix. Getting a

trainer is ideal for wild child puppy, they will show you how to properly train her, like pad training the key word is constancy, you must be consistent, reward and happy praise like crazy when she uses the pad. You must be very patient and constant when pad training and obedience training, always verbally praise and reward with her most favorite treat.
At 70 we don't have the stamina we had at 40, puppies are a lot of work, keeps you going all day.

gemy 11-18-2020 06:35 PM

With a wild child and I've had more than a few. I find it very beneficial to outside play train.

That is fetch the toy, first you need to train fetch. A well rounded trainer can show you the steps and should give you homework to do before their next visit.

I agree with only one pee pad. However if you have to go up and down steps all the time that can be onerous for you.

I am not a positive only trainer. My dogs get to learn good actions good treats, bad actions discipline.

Discipline can be quite varied. It depends on what gets through to the dog. Set your dog up for success, that is one of my actions. Discipline is measured firm and consistent.
One of my dogs couldn't stand being ignored by me. Another was so sensitive and would stress very easily.

Training is like a dance. Know when to lead, know when to follow.

Good luck and have fun with you youngum

Jkpal 11-19-2020 05:19 AM

If she is too much for you and more work than fun, then re-homing will be a gift for her as well as you. Go with your instincts, be fair to her and be fair to you...and always, put her first. What is a "huge handful" for you may be a perfect fit for someone else. RE-HOME CAREFULLY AND THOROUGHLY AND BE SURE IT'S THE BEST NEW HOME if that's the route you go...Best of luck. I'm sure you'll make the right decision for all concerned.

matese 11-19-2020 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jkpal (Post 4818473)
If she is too much for you and more work than fun, then re-homing will be a gift for her as well as you. Go with your instincts, be fair to her and be fair to you...and always, put her first. What is a "huge handful" for you may be a perfect fit for someone else. RE-HOME CAREFULLY AND THOROUGHLY AND BE SURE IT'S THE BEST NEW HOME if that's the route you go...Best of luck. I'm sure you'll make the right decision for all concerned.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Perfectly said

tbhajou 11-23-2020 05:43 AM

My dog, Sophie is now a year old. I first thought like you about my puppy 7 months ago when I first brought her home. I was told that she was a European bloodline 5 months old yorkie pup.

When I first brought her home, I did notice a behavioural issue. She would not stop barking and running in full speed and bumping into things and trying to jump up everywhere.(like she was on a hyper drive) She did not sleep well and was in full energy mode at night. I had a yorkie before(she passed away) so I knew this was not a typical behaviour.

And I was very worried. I started to have many regrets including not getting the pup from a registered breeder. I thought this problem was because she was not bred well. She also looked little different than a typical 5 month old yorkie(she was just dark all around her face and body with almost no tan color). My previous yorkie was from a registered breeder and has a standard Yorkie look(black and tan as a puppy but turn golden and silver later) I even paid a lot more money. The decision to buy this puppy was on impulse, not really planned. So many thoughts crossed my mind.

First thing I did was join this yorkietalk and started to ask questions. And this really helped me find some answers. Also Sophie joined our family at a good times as all the family members were home when Covid 19 started. We had opportunity to monitor her. My daughter noticed that she kept scratching her ears and eyes and sometimes hear her cry in pain during her sleep. When we took a closer look, her Skin surrounding her eye lash were red and inflamed. I took a look at her ears and eyes carefully. And noticed she had dirty ears. Her ears were filled with black stuff and her eye lash area were red without hair with black crusts. It took few months for us to get it treated by the vet. Even after the treatments, she is still a very active dog but she can now be calmer and focused and sleep well when she wants to. We also got her spayed(thanks to the advise from the members) I think her improved behaviour may have to do with it. My Sophie’s case really worked out well for us with my daughter being at home to help us finding out what was really causing the problems due helpful guide from this yorkietalk.

From this experience I see why rehoming the pup can be an option too. I hope it works out well for both.

Elliern 11-30-2020 04:30 PM

Update on my poorly bred yorkie or schnauzer:
I actually wound up re-homing her to a good friend and neighbor. My puppy knew her and her dog. It has worked out great for everyone. My friend takes her on long walks right by our home 3-4 times a day. We get to see her, love on her and get lots of kisses every day. But then she happily runs back to her new mom and new dachshund brother to walk back to her new home. Because of mobility issues, I could not take her on long walks. So that helps get rid of some of her energy issues.
Her new mom also went to the same vet we used. So easy switch over of medical records.
She was microchipped when we had her spayed and that was also an easy change over to her new family. This has turned out to be a real blessing for everyone.
I still plan on getting another puppy in a few months, but this time I will personally go to the breeder. Talk to her about the temperament of the parents and look at the litter of puppies. And the puppy and I will chose each other. I plan to tell the breeder up front we can’t really care for a high energy dog. A normal active puppy is fine, but also want one that is happy to cuddle in our laps. I know the right puppy is out there for us. Please wish us luck.

Lovetodream88 11-30-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliern (Post 4818645)
Update on my poorly bred yorkie or schnauzer:
I actually wound up re-homing her to a good friend and neighbor. My puppy knew her and her dog. It has worked out great for everyone. My friend takes her on long walks right by our home 3-4 times a day. We get to see her, love on her and get lots of kisses every day. But then she happily runs back to her new mom and new dachshund brother to walk back to her new home. Because of mobility issues, I could not take her on long walks. So that helps get rid of some of her energy issues.
Her new mom also went to the same vet we used. So easy switch over of medical records.
She was microchipped when we had her spayed and that was also an easy change over to her new family. This has turned out to be a real blessing for everyone.
I still plan on getting another puppy in a few months, but this time I will personally go to the breeder. Talk to her about the temperament of the parents and look at the litter of puppies. And the puppy and I will chose each other. I plan to tell the breeder up front we can’t really care for a high energy dog. A normal active puppy is fine, but also want one that is happy to cuddle in our laps. I know the right puppy is out there for us. Please wish us luck.

I honestly would adopt an adult dog not get a puppy. Most of what you described was very normal for a puppy and most puppies are high energy and a lot of work. I think it would be more fair for you and another puppy to go with an adult dog. I’m glad that you found a good home for her.

matese 11-30-2020 06:03 PM

I have to agree with getting an older dog. Yorkies are high energy pups and as adults. Any terrier breed will be high energy and puppies in general are a lot of work.

It's wonderful you found someone close to re-home her and see her and she now has a brother to play with.

tbhajou 11-30-2020 06:51 PM

I am glad you found the good home for the little one. You seemed to have done the right things before rehoming the puppy. I think if it needs to be done, then earlier is better so the pup has an easier time getting adjust to the new home.

I also suggest getting a puppy but prepare to wait. My previous dog was a year old when I brought her home. She was a beautiful 3.5 lb little girl with both parents being champions. Breeder told us she is too small to breed or show so we bought her when she was over a year old. She was very shy in the beginning and couldn’t quite bond with us. She also had health conditions and passed away a few years ago. She only followed me and no one else in the family. She had a happy 10 years life with us but after that experience, we decided to get a puppy this time.
Sophie, our new pup, is just really really affectionate little fur baby. Even with my doubts in the beginning(about being a pure bred yorkie) with coarse black hair, odd color coat and patches of bald spots from infection, she now is a year old, healthy and beautiful thick long coat. She is only 4 lb but just really well built with short chubby body. They are just amazing breed. They change drastically and beautifully as they mature.

If you are looking for a small puppy, be straight forward with the breeder and maybe pay a little more to be the first pick. I also tried this and asked for a small pup no larger than 6-7 lb(I used the growth chart and tried to make decision at 8 weeks old) but I end up waiting a year and gave up as the pups from this breeder was very large. And I think she had a long list of people who wanted small pups.
I think the growth chart online is pretty accurate so I suggest you use that as guideline if you are looking for certain size.

Best of luck to you in finding your yorkie pup.

Britster 12-01-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4818651)
I honestly would adopt an adult dog not get a puppy. Most of what you described was very normal for a puppy and most puppies are high energy and a lot of work. I think it would be more fair for you and another puppy to go with an adult dog. I’m glad that you found a good home for her.

Agreed. Or get a different breed - like a Shihtzu or a breed that is known to be a bit more laid back and chill. Almost every Yorkie pup I've ever been around has had a lot of spunk and energy. They are definitely not a breed I'd recommend for someone who won't really be going on walks etc.

Jkpal 12-01-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 4818661)
Agreed. Or get a different breed - like a Shihtzu or a breed that is known to be a bit more laid back and chill. Almost every Yorkie pup I've ever been around has had a lot of spunk and energy. They are definitely not a breed I'd recommend for someone who won't really be going on walks etc.

Great that you had the sense and courage to re-home. And I totally agree agree with Britster about your next DOG--maybe not even a puppy. Piper was a perfect three yrs (or so) when I got her and I'm soooo glad I got an adult dog with a lot of puppy in her...


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