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Hey guys, been very busy training my dog.

So Maggie has been quite the persistent little trouble maker for the past few months since I got her. But at the same time she has been showing signs of improvement.

She still tries to eat crap off the floor sometimes and it drives me crazy because telling her to drop it or leave it and she wont. But she doesnt do it as often anymore. Still kind of annoys me that I've had no progress on that part.


She hasn't had any accidents inside, though sasha has been slipping up. Took her out to do her business earlier with maggie, both relieved themselves(pee and poop), sasha's stool is soft again and she again diahreah'd a big chunk over the kitchen floor... I think its because she ate some of maggies food... Seems I cannot trust her alone even if she was trained prior.

Maggie wont eat her food if you give it to her all at once and still is picky. I might skip or lower the feed for a day every few days to see how it works out.


We're still working on the yard to let them roam around, but I dont think id ever let maggie off leash in the backyard-- regardless if the fences are fixed or not. She's way too fast and sometimes doesnt come when called.

So I am making headway on training but not that much and we backpeddle alot.

Still annoys me that I buy her other treats and she likes this cheapo walmart one but the other one(peanut butter biscuits -- made in america or something) she wont eat it much.

She's not really an eager eater... not sure why. Which probably is why its harder to train her over sasha.

Sasha is an eager eater but I cant give her much variety because she has sensitive stomach(I guess this is the downside from her being from a not so reputable breeder).

Anything too different and she will puke or get soft stool (diahrea).

Sasha picked up a nasty habit of jumping on the sofa (there's a window sill in the new house and she barks at oncoming cars) so now we can't leave her alone in the living room, if she poops diahrea there or pees she will ruin the wood floors...


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Forgot to add...

Sasha is eating flower petals which may be whats also causing her stomach upsets and anytime i catch her and i tell her to drop it she wont and if i try to open her mouth(my mom does that to her) she will growl to me lowly but she wont growl to my mom. Granted Ive been spending more time with maggie than sasha. But still.

Forgot to add she somewhat likes these treats "canine carry outs" cheapo from walmart.

Training takes lots of patients and time. I am having to have significant patients with the rescue pup I got in April. She was doing great with potty training and today she peed in the house twice after not doing it for two weeks or more. Then I shut her out of my bedroom to get dressed the last two mornings and she wasn't alone but with my grandmother and mother but she pooped right in front of my door like she was mad I shut her out. She also picks up things but is getting drop it very well especially I have a treat. We have wood floors too and as long as you clean it, it dosent really mess up the wood floors in fact it easier then carpet. Just make sure the treats you are buying aren't made in China.

awe I was wondering where you have been. Training def can be frustrating but its so rewarding when you achieve milestones! good luck!

My brother found what he thought was maggies poop because it was smaller.


Im kinda mad at sasha because i know it was her that did it. She was in the dining room and then rushed to the carpet in living room, threw upon the carpet in two seperate areas. I know she doesnt know better but it felt a deliberate attempt to peeve me. I know she dont know better..., but ugh its frustrating. Sometimes i want to spray her with a correction water bottle but i know its not necessary. Itll pass i guess. SO now we leave her in a smaller bare room until she learns...

Keep in mind that Sasha lived in the other house longer then Maggie did, Sasha is still learning where her new poop place is. I know it can be very frustrating but we are deal with dogs that are creatures of habit, and when we change things about, like moving to a new home, they get confused. Please "try" not to get stressed, angry, your pups sense this, feeds off it and they get more stressed and confused.

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Throwing up can't be helped or even trained. You really should not use the spray bottle for throwing up or potty accidents. I have no control over when I throw up I just pretty much do it where I am and lots of dogs are like that. They don't throw up to make you mad either.

They don't vomit in certain places for revenge. They're scared, and just throw up when it comes. They can't control the purely physical reaction of vomiting. I would not recommend spraying her *at all* bc she vomits - you will really damage her if you go down that path...

My boy rarely vomits and when he did it was in the living room on the carpet, his head went down, ears plastered against his head like he did something really bad. I have to assume he was reprimanded by prev. owner when he did this with them. I have him 3 years and I guess he still remembers be scolded. I pet him and tell him it's ok, they can't help it when this happens.

Never spray a dog with water for vomiting, all it will do is instill fear in the dog and cause confusion. If you do not want carpeting soiled gate it off so the dogs cannot get in that room.

I never actually do what I want to do because I tend to know better than to do such thing.

I can tell she didnt do it out of revenge. She's a dog, a dog doesn't have the mental capability for revenge, spite, and complex feelings/actions like that. It still is tedious and quite annoying though-- it doesn't retract from it.

However being that she's a dog she doesn't know better so we put up with the things we aren't fond of (not sure of anyone who would like their dog to soil their belongings and stuff) because we love them.


Still sometimes we just have those days where nothing was going right. I've never yelled or tried to squirt her or anything unless she did something that would be self-harming (i.e. if we went outside and she picked up a rock and tried to eat it and I had no way to get her to leave it but to startle her-- because she might bite me then yeah).

I just wish some of these things could atleast be better controlled. Been working on the leave it, and drop it command on both of them and no success. Tried different methods. Tried everything I could think of and no success.

Also, I dont think sasha quite respects me as she does her owner. Our floors are clean, we vaccuum often, and they still try finding things to chew or eat-- even though both of them have assorted toys, and chewable things of their own.

Sasha does at least listen to the command "go" (i point to a direction and say it and she goes to it)

I guess I was at fault for letting them play in the living room-- even though I was right there sitting on the couch watching them closely. The moment I went and cleaned up the vomit, she puked in the other area and that's when maggie decided it was a great idea to start eating sashas vomit.


Why any living-- organic being would think it's a good idea to eat vomit is beyond me(I wouldn't eat food if it fell on the ground-- much less if someone puked it out but I guess thats just a human thing too). But I guess its a dog thing.


I guess I sometimes give them too much credit for being smart. Like sometimes I see them do things that I feel take some critical thinking skills and I start thinking they're as smart as a 5 year old. That is where my error comes in. I really shouldn't compare the two.


I was mostly mad that day because I was worried about her, and her giving my other dog some illness. That and I don't really know how to clean that carpet well without you know ruining it... As it's one of those persian /arabian carpets... I don't really care much about the carpet itself but I didn't want to upset who the carpet belonged to.



I will have to find a way to retrain sasha because while the vomit was unpreventable. She did poop inside--days after the diahrea incident.

I don't exactly get angry. I mostly get stressed or annoyed but usually if its persistent. Maggie has pooped inside before and I wasn't actually angry, or even much annoyed. I figured she just has to get used to being outside.


Now, she still isnt to be trusted alone in places like the livingroom-- she will poop wherever even if you take her out to do her business often. She's surprised me before. What bothered me from that was mostly that she would pick a secluded area(behind the sofas) where I wouldnt see it and i wont notice it for days... (there are times where I spend more time in my room- and I bring my dog in my room).


I just wished that in some areas of training I could get through to her easily. She still eats random crud off the floor(even in the yard-- well thats mostly where she does it).

I doubt a piece of leaf will do any damage but I still dont want that habit.

True, I mean I haven't thrown up since I was a pre-teen or earlier but I can understand it's inevitable.

I wasnt happy because maggie tried to eat her vomit which could get her sick.

Most dogs actually try to do that so it is a normal behavior.

Thats gross and dangerous though... Dogs puke for a reason. Its like picking up a scorpion barehanded and getting stung- only to try again soon after....


Also, I think my dog is actually a russian toy terrier. It has an uncanny resemblance to the brown nosed one

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UMWXHt3x8f4

I know its gross but its just what they do they really don't know any better. Mine haven't done it but I try not to give them the opportunity by telling them no or leave it. The dogs I had growing up did it.

Eh she doesnt listen sometimes. She knows the command no as for leave it I havent made much progress on that but she still goes for it anyways.

I am thinking of getting another trainer or something that might help... we would all benefit from her being 100% trained.

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Also unfortunately maggies nails are super long now... Ive been trying to find this special nail clipper(its not a clipper it just sands away the nails)

They have those nail grinders at Petco and Petsmart. I would read the reviews online for them first. I did that and got one I really like but it takes training to get them used to it.

To be totally honest, it sounds like you have really unrealistic expectations of these little kiddos....bc you want them 100% trained. Is there such a thing...?

Just a thought, but have you thought about a cat instead? Bc you don't really have to "train" them at all.

As far as nails, nail dremels or any dremel are everywhere - Amazon, Home Depot, Lowes, PetCo, PetsMart etc....

I think there is such a thing as 100% trained but I think it takes their personality away and makes them seem like a little machine. Luckily though Callie and Joey are 100% potty trained :D

I can understand that you wanna vent here because of your frustrations! We've all been through that wanna-tear-your-hair-out frustration. Just make sure not to take it out on your kiddos :)

About the accidents...it seems that it might be due to the amount of space they have access to? With two, you really need two pairs of eyes to watch them. Because as soon as you're cleaning up after one, the second could be off doing something else! If you can somehow block them off in an area where there's nothing for them to chew except for their toys, you might have less stress?

About the puking...I always feel sorry for my babies when they throw up. I always pick them up to cuddle and tell them "aw, it's okay...don't worry, you're going to be okay". I pick them up because, I don't want them to eat it. I comfort them because the involuntary action of puking is very uncomfortable whether for humans or for dogs.

I'd focus on training the leave it command. I've been finding it so useful. Everyday after we come home from our multiple potty walks, I make my two sit before I take off their leash. After the leash is off, I tell them to sit and remain sitting. Then they get a treat.

Now that they know this is the routine, they know to sit patiently for a treat (instead of darting off past me with their dirty paws). Instead of just feeding the treat to them, I put the treat on the floor with the "leave it" command. I've been doing this for a few weeks now. The treat I've been using for this is Merrick's Lamb lung fillets (broken up into finger nail sized pieces).

To my surprise, "leave it" has been sort of working on our walks too! When I use the "leave it" command when they wanna sniff something, pick up something, or start barking at another dog, they stop sooner than they would have before. I think it's well worth it to continue to train this (for my babies anyway).

Anyway. It seems most of your frustration is because you've got two to train. That's why many recommend getting a second after your first is somewhat well trained. It's just a lot easier on yourself. Hang in there. It's not impossible, just takes a little extra time and patience.

I see. We have one but I cant find it. She lets me check her and clean her so i think she might letme do the nails.

Sorry I probably should had elaborated more on that. By 100% trained I mean that on a typical average day (the dog's health is fine, I am taking them out on time, etc) that I won't find a random turd on the floor or a puddle of piddle on the floor... -If- they're either sick or there's some valid reason for them to do it on the floor (like I didn't take them out on time, or I was late- which rarely ever happened with the time we've had sasha) then yeah I would expect piddle and a pile of dung on the floor...


Also for training Sasha climbs on the couches everytime she hears a car going by (there's also a little ledge on the windows-- I dont know what the word is for it, but it's the kind of windows that have enough room for a dog to climb and walk on) and when she does that-- the couch becomes dirty. Sasha is long haired and even weekly washes aren't enough to keep all of the dirt off of her. The sofas are brand new. I am thinking of getting covers for them in the time being.

But everytime I find her on the sofa I sigh in despair because furniture isn't cheap and let's face it. Not everyone can afford to replace furniture on a monthly basis...

She knows the command "off" and she didnt used to climb on the sofa in the old house but because the sofas are by the windows she does here. (there's nowhere else to put them as itll look cluttered anywhere else)... But just because she knows off doesn't mean she'll do it without me saying it or even just not get on there at all. I don't ever sit on the sofas with the dogs either. Or my bed, or anything other than one specific chair. Which I call my dog handling chair. lol


Also, I wish I could get her to ignore other dogs and people completely (like instead of running up to them and yapping at them -- even bigger dogs)... You'd think after that incident with the crazed pittbull in the last house ... you'd think she'd learn by now... dogs might not be the smartest creatures out there-- but they're certainly not the dumbest either.. they might not know about things like roads, but they should by now know not to pick a fight with another dog--- particularly if that dog is twice the size of her...

She will never bite another person or a dog because we -somewhat- tested it (not 100% tested it) but on leash we let them get near each other gradually and see what would happen. (we did this only when we introduced her to maggie). She just barked, and anytime maggie oversteps her boundry she just chases maggie and barks at her but she never bites. She's a prime definition of all bark no bite(I think same with maggie though).



This one I know is a tad unrealistic in my case-- but if I could get her to focus anytime I go on walks and not be distracted by other people, dogs, etc then I wouldn't mind walking her around the neighborhood. I can't even walk her outside because she'll just bark and bark and bark at everything... I don't want to be a nuisance neighbor... My backdoor neighbor are an old retired couple who always stay outside in the yard during the day time(every single day) and even if we completely fixed the fence I wouldnt be able to let sasha roam free because anytime she sees or hears their dog she barks(even with leash she runs like a mad dog to the fence and barks).

Would also help with having her poop on command.



If I could train her to stop the whining any time anyone is eating or preparing food(she's begging for food-- it was cute at first but now its not)... none of us even indulged her on that. She only ever started doing it when my little cousin started to come over and feed her scraps.... or tease her while eating...



If I could train her(Sasha) to walk on leash properly... She pulls at the leash and you can see her gasping for air sometimes because she just keeps pulling it's unnerving. We tried a harness but she tries to chew it off or just takes it off somehow... She might be a little 22 (or something) pound dog but she does have strength for a little dog....



For maggie I just want her to not bolt out the door anytime someone opens it (it hasnt happened because we havent let her-- but you can see her waiting by the door-- she tried once and we caught her)....

To stop eating crap off the floor, and to actually drop it when we tell her to drop it or leave it. Anytime she gets close to something she's going to try to eat(when taking her out on a walk) I have to pull her away from it...

The barking she's so-so on it. She barks depending on who it actually is and dogs. She barks and growls at my brother like crazy (since day 1-- even when he just met her) he never actually spends time with her either so its not like he did anything to her. Although she only does it if I am present, she'll stand infront of me and bark at him enraged. I wonder if she picks up that I am not 100% fond of him sometimes. (siblings quarrel even into adulthood).

I take her out at minimum 3 times a day (if im going to be away for the day I take her out in the morning , then before I leave and after I come back) but on an average day 4-6 times a day and she doesn't always want to go (either piddle or poop).

Didnt poop or pee last night, so I had to wake up at 4 am (an ungodly hour for me) just to take her out... had to sleep longer in because of that.

She doesn't always eat her food right away either. She likes to stash treats too. Like if I give her a treat the little scamp will take it and stash it somewhere and sometimes she forgets her stash and itll smell a few days later. Now I make sure she eats it on the spot or I throw it out.

It's why I have been trying to choose my words appropriately.. I am let me tell you-- extremely horrible at explaining what I am thinking or feeling sometimes.... Like an example is sometimes ill say potato but think of tomato (not exactly like that but I mean like I could better carefully explain the situation and not make it seem different than what it really is)..


I say I yell at her, but I never actually yell at her. I just make the SHHH sound-- where we live I couldn't be loud regardless. Sound carries far, and it's a very quiet peaceful neighborhood. Even with my sibling spats we have to be careful.

I never actually yell or hit her. The only time you could say I smacked her was in the beginning when she tried to swallow a big piece of plastic twice the size of her eyeball... and I did it gently to get her to drop it. I was in panic mode, to be fair at the time I didnt think she had this problem because in the place we adopted her she never touched her toys, never touched anything on the ground, she was cautious, etc. That was my bad there. That and I didnt notice the piece of plastic on the ground before. Now I carefully examine the floors, but theres stuff she still tries to pick up like lint, or whatever came in with us from walking outside. (tiny tiny pieces of paper, dust, grass etc).


I would never ever abuse an animal. Under any circumstances. I know what it's like to be scared/frightened, in pain, etc. Where I lived as a child it wasnt a very calm and peaceful place.


As for the two to train. To be honest, sasha wasn't this bad in the old house. She never picked up stuff, sure she begged, and yapped non-stop, but she never had accidents inside the house, she never went on the sofas, etc.

It is a different sofa so maybe thats why.


To be honest, the stress is probably temporarily. Her owner isn't currently here so I am technically the one caring for both of them.. at least till next thursday.


As for the space. I never gave maggie that much space to roam, sasha never had that much space either when she wasnt supervised. Only got that space when I was right there actually watching them. But like you said, need two pair of eyes, and two pair of hands to do it properly...


The leave it command. Me trying to tell them to leave it, results in them doing it anyways, and the maggie will just pick it up and bolt. Which is when I give her a time out for doing it. (I time her out for 15minutes to 30minutes depending on how bad it was that she did-- I do mean things that she could had prevented). When she does leave it, I praise her excitedly and pet her , pick her up and cuddle her for a bit. Enough to get her to understand she did good.

It rarely works. I am trying to find methods to teach her the leave it command. Some way that it'll just click and a lightbulb goes on her head. (like if I actually listen to him, he'll give me rewards and cuddles).


She doesn't like it when I ignore her, or I go pet the other dog. (she's the jealous type I guess lol).



Honestly my frustrations is that what she does could seriously harm her. I am not 100% sure if people understand that for a big dog eating a piece of lint, or a small piece of plastic would probably (PROBABLY) just pass right through them without any issues-- because they have larger intestines, and stomach... but for a smaller dog, smaller frame, smaller intestines, smaller stomach... itll likely require surgery... Which if it happened on a monthly basis I could not afford. I cant afford to pay for a 5,000 dollar surgery every single month. Because she doesn't quite learn from a negative experience... Makes me think back to when I was a child and I would watch spongebob and the character patrick would place his hand on a hot frying pan-- feel the pain and then 2 seconds later place his hand there again....
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As for the cat comment to the previous post (it was someone else-- forgot to add it there so ill just add it here).

Reason I dont want a cat is because they're not as loving and you cant really play with them the same way you could with a dog and for them.. they'll be with you when they want to be with you, not when you want to be with them. lol

Plus homes with cats tend to smell and feel kind of groddy... (no offense to cat lovers- I like cats look wise) the people I've met with cats.. their homes have this weird gross distinct smell to it...

Couches full of hair.. cats shed more than dogs do... I mean I always wanted an orange maine coon because they're pretty but my instinct says its a horrible idea. My friend has a regular colored coon and shes always full of cat hairs, her clothes(even after being washed) smell like cats... her house smells like cats and a litter box should really be cleaned out daily if possible... after 3 days of leaving it there her house smells like... cat feces and cat piddle....

The litter box idea would be fantastic if the actual litter did it's job properly... She's tried many types of litter and they all smell equally as bad 3 days after. Even after cleaning it the house still smells horrible.





If the cat wouldnt leave me clothes full of hair, or make my house smell weird/gross and all those other things I wouldnt mind having a cat(though I'd still keep my dog lol -- I wouldnt trade her for anything). and if they were nicer...

I mean just look at this little scamp. (ill submit a photo i found on google). He looks like my other friend's maine coon(same color too).