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FlyingNimbus 04-01-2017 04:08 PM
Collar or harness?
 
Hey guys, I just wanted to ask which one do you guys preferred to use? And for what reason do you prefer one over the other?

Ringo1 04-01-2017 04:25 PM
Most smaller dogs do better with a harness.

Imissu 04-01-2017 04:44 PM
When my pup did her dog obedience, the trainer insisted on a collar. but I find a harness MUCH safer because she's a real wiggle worm.

matese 04-01-2017 04:47 PM
Harness only, collar for tags only. NEVER walk a yorkie on a collar as they are prone to collapsed trachea.

Lovetodream88 04-01-2017 07:10 PM
They should always have a collar on with an Id tag but when your going to hook them to the leash put a harness on too and use that to hook the leash to.

FlyingNimbus 04-01-2017 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708013)
They should always have a collar on with an Id tag but when your going to hook them to the leash put a harness on too and use that to hook the leash to.

We had a harness for my mother's dog and we used to use it like you just said because she had a tendency to slip. Not anymore, but you know pups.

Sounds like a good idea.

Would it even hurt the trachea if you pull on it though? That's the important part, as others said yorkies are prone to collapsed trachea

FlyingNimbus 04-01-2017 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Imissu (Post 4707976)
When my pup did her dog obedience, the trainer insisted on a collar. but I find a harness MUCH safer because she's a real wiggle worm.
It needs to be the good harness though, because I've seen a dog escape a harness... forget what type of harness it was but I don't believe it was a good one... As she escaped from it a few times as a pup.

FlyingNimbus 04-01-2017 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4707978)
Harness only, collar for tags only. NEVER walk a yorkie on a collar as they are prone to collapsed trachea.

I think small dogs in general are prone to that right? I thought it was just chihuahuas but I guess I am wrong.

Wylie's Mom 04-02-2017 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708020)
I think small dogs in general are prone to that right? I thought it was just chihuahuas but I guess I am wrong.
Many small breeds of all kinds are prone to it...and especially yorkies in particular.

I use collars at all times for ID (+ micro chip), and then harness for walking.

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708019)
It needs to be the good harness though, because I've seen a dog escape a harness... forget what type of harness it was but I don't believe it was a good one... As she escaped from it a few times as a pup.
The buddy belt is an awesome harness. They are expensive though so better to get after they re fully grown. They are extremely hard to escape.

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708020)
I think small dogs in general are prone to that right? I thought it was just chihuahuas but I guess I am wrong.
Yep it's a yorkie thing too. My moms rescue had it bad enough to be on daily meds. My girl has it but it's mild she only had one time she needed steroids for a week. My boy does not have it but when he was a puppy we tried every harness and they all pushed on his treachea and made him cough so we had to get the buddy belt 2 which is the cheaper one but it was the only harness that didn't make him couch. I hate any dog really having a leash hooked to there collars because even big dogs cough if they pull on the leash because the collar chokes them.

DoggieWoof 04-02-2017 09:55 AM
Yorkies are prone to collapsed trachea Tracheal Collapse in Dogs: Signs, Causes, and Treatment

That is why it is always better to go with harness :)

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708142)
The buddy belt is an awesome harness. They are expensive though so better to get after they re fully grown. They are extremely hard to escape.
They look similar to other harness. What makes them better just curious?

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708143)
Yep it's a yorkie thing too. My moms rescue had it bad enough to be on daily meds. My girl has it but it's mild she only had one time she needed steroids for a week. My boy does not have it but when he was a puppy we tried every harness and they all pushed on his treachea and made him cough so we had to get the buddy belt 2 which is the cheaper one but it was the only harness that didn't make him couch. I hate any dog really having a leash hooked to there collars because even big dogs cough if they pull on the leash because the collar chokes them.
Is the buddy belt the most-escape proof harness? Maybe someday I'll invent a thing to add to a collar that if a dog ever escapes it's trackable by an app map and all

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708153)
They look similar to other harness. What makes them better just curious?
I don't think they look like other harnesses at all. They do not hit very high up on the dog so it can't irritate or put any pressure on the trachea. Other harnesses hit higher up and puts pressure on it if there is any pulling. The buckle makes it every easy to adjust the size so it can go over clothing or a jacket or just go on nakie. They are also leather so they last pretty much the dogs life time.

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708154)
Is the buddy belt the most-escape proof harness? Maybe someday I'll invent a thing to add to a collar that if a dog ever escapes it's trackable by an app map and all
In my opinion it is because it can be adjusted so easily and well and I have heard many people whose dogs have escaped from other harnesses have not been able to from the buddy belt. They do make things like that for collars but there kinda big so more geared toward bigger dogs.

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708153)
They look similar to other harness. What makes them better just curious?
Here is a review I did of it for my blog https://lovetodream88.wordpress.com/...-belt-harness/

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708163)
I don't think they look like other harnesses at all. They do not hit very high up on the dog so it can't irritate or put any pressure on the trachea. Other harnesses hit higher up and puts pressure on it if there is any pulling. The buckle makes it every easy to adjust the size so it can go over clothing or a jacket or just go on nakie. They are also leather so they last pretty much the dogs life time.
All of that sounds nice, though correction on leather.. Leather may not last that long depends... I've had a leather collar break on me once.

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708164)
In my opinion it is because it can be adjusted so easily and well and I have heard many people whose dogs have escaped from other harnesses have not been able to from the buddy belt. They do make things like that for collars but there kinda big so more geared toward bigger dogs.
Big and bulky doesn't sound smart... It should be something compact, hidden within the collar so it doesn't look weird. You know? So in case it got abducted, the person kept the collar, but you could still track it. ;) Imagine that?

Technology like that I think is already available or not far off in that size and all I mean.


But I highly doubt I could build something that sophisticated myself. Just the idea sounds nice.

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708166)
Here is a review I did of it for my blog https://lovetodream88.wordpress.com/...-belt-harness/
By the way, been looking at the link you gave me- sort of side tracked and looked at the other photos of callie. She's so precious. She reminds me of Sasha, I bet she would be my favorite too. That sweet sweet face. lol.

Love the picture of her poking her head out of a carrier bag. Also what's that thing that you put in the zippers? Looks like a clip. If one was to be traveling via air - I would think a harder carrier would be required, or preferred.

Still, I have seen really crafty dogs find themselves out of a really tight harness...

Our dog when she was a crafty pup who had more of that "pup power" , she would escape collars, and harnesses... Eventually I'd put the two together(clipped together) so if it gets out of one she couldnt the other. But somehow she could still find her way... Crafty little hoodini... Good thing we were in the backyard when it happen... That is what concerns me... How do you keep a houdini from removing it's harness? Is the buddy belt snug enough that you can't escape from it? How do you figure out sizes? I doubt 1 size fits all..

Lovetodream88 04-02-2017 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708174)
By the way, been looking at the link you gave me- sort of side tracked and looked at the other photos of callie. She's so precious. She reminds me of Sasha, I bet she would be my favorite too. That sweet sweet face. lol.

Love the picture of her poking her head out of a carrier bag. Also what's that thing that you put in the zippers? Looks like a clip. If one was to be traveling via air - I would think a harder carrier would be required, or preferred.

Still, I have seen really crafty dogs find themselves out of a really tight harness...

Our dog when she was a crafty pup who had more of that "pup power" , she would escape collars, and harnesses... Eventually I'd put the two together(clipped together) so if it gets out of one she couldnt the other. But somehow she could still find her way... Crafty little hoodini... Good thing we were in the backyard when it happen... That is what concerns me... How do you keep a houdini from removing it's harness? Is the buddy belt snug enough that you can't escape from it? How do you figure out sizes? I doubt 1 size fits all..
Thanks Callie is awesome but I maybe biased lol. She is a very good girl she is a great model because she just goes with whatever. They have lots of different sizes you go by their chest measurement. The leather on these really does hold up well. Callie's oldest one is 7 years old i think and still looks great. Callie knows how to unzip zippers even from the inside so if I have to keep her in for some reason it has to have a clip. I think the way it fits it just makes it harder to slide out of it or something. I have never had a dog that tried to get out of their harness so I'm haven't gotten to test that myself.

FlyingNimbus 04-02-2017 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4708176)
Thanks Callie is awesome but I maybe biased lol. She is a very good girl she is a great model because she just goes with whatever. They have lots of different sizes you go by their chest measurement. The leather on these really does hold up well. Callie's oldest one is 7 years old i think and still looks great. Callie knows how to unzip zippers even from the inside so if I have to keep her in for some reason it has to have a clip. I think the way it fits it just makes it harder to slide out of it or something. I have never had a dog that tried to get out of their harness so I'm haven't gotten to test that myself.
Chest Measurements... lol, if it even stands still...

Your callie is a crafty little bugger, ain't she? Quite a beaut.

rjwalt 04-02-2017 07:37 PM
Both. Just attach the harness for walks. The collar is good for easy I'd and more comfortable to wear in general.

Ravyn 04-06-2017 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus (Post 4708154)
Is the buddy belt the most-escape proof harness? Maybe someday I'll invent a thing to add to a collar that if a dog ever escapes it's trackable by an app map and all
10 Must-Have Apps for Dog Owners

Here you go. There are already apps that will do this.

FlyingNimbus 04-08-2017 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravyn (Post 4709944)
10 Must-Have Apps for Dog Owners

Here you go. There are already apps that will do this.
Thanks I appreciate it. Will save that.

Yorkiegirl123 04-08-2017 01:33 PM
Definitely harness. Never put a collar around a Yorkie's neck. They have trachea problems.

Lovetodream88 04-08-2017 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiegirl123 (Post 4710905)
Definitely harness. Never put a collar around a Yorkie's neck. They have trachea problems.
You can use a collar for tags in fact I recommend it.

FlyingNimbus 04-08-2017 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4710938)
You can use a collar for tags in fact I recommend it.
It's what I plan on doing. Plus investing in something to track it physically. I am sure there is something that has a tracker that shows wherever it is, no matter how far. Idk. Maybe I am thinking too much of movies-- but you know current world technology would say it's highly possible if its not out already.


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