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aweitzm1 12-20-2016 08:50 AM
raw chicken good or bad?
 
Boomer will finally eat raw chicken if I hand feed it to him. Does anyone know if that is safe? I know a lot of people do raw diets. He won't touch the rice or any veggies. He did have some of his old kibble (not a lot) yesterday.

Rachael1983 12-20-2016 09:53 AM
Raw Dog Food Diet: Benefits and Risks

I found a few resources by a simple google search. I think that its pretty safe to give your dog raw chicken (careful with bones, etc) however given that a dogs digestive track can handle the bacteria often in raw food the expectation that it would cause the dog to get sick is different than it is for humans with salmonella for example.

I think with a raw diet, you run the risk of not being nutritionally balanced so I think you should research more since your pupper doesn't care for rice and veggies.

Bamboo15 12-20-2016 12:11 PM
Im not sure about the chicken but Have you tried soaking his kibble in the juice from (water) canned tuna? I sometimes do that with things they don't want to eat and they usually love it and eat it right up.

Lovetodream88 12-20-2016 03:39 PM
I'm not a fan of raw especially with long haired breeds. Also chicken is very easy to make people sick so you must think about the others in your house that will be exposed to it.

Wylie's Mom 12-21-2016 05:18 AM
Giving raw food / chicken is just fine, as long as you're just basically clean about it. It's really not a big deal. Mine have been on an all raw diet for, oh, 9 years now...? And not a single, solitary issue about anyone getting sick, ever.

Lovetodream88 12-21-2016 06:00 AM
Thought I would share the AVMA's (American Vetrinary Medical Association) opinion on it. https://www.avma.org/About/Governanc...5_raw_food.pdf
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/FA...olicy-FAQ.aspx

Wylie's Mom 12-22-2016 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4684644)
Thought I would share the AVMA's (American Vetrinary Medical Association) opinion on it. https://www.avma.org/About/Governanc...5_raw_food.pdf
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/FA...olicy-FAQ.aspx
I would take this with a grain of salt, Ashley. Note what's lacking in this statement - absolutely zero information or ANY DATA whatsoever regarding incidence/prevalence or % of "contamination" - and it's bc they really don't have any. They also, interestingly, neglected to mention that pretty much every bag of dog kibble tests positive for salmonella (lol!)! But nope, no mention of that.

Too bad we can't survey the actual canid/canine species itself - which has been around for 60 million years now...eating raw meat. :rolleyes:

Do what feels best for you and yours after gathering all the info you can :).

Lovetodream88 12-22-2016 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4684825)
I would take this with a grain of salt, Ashley. Note what's lacking in this statement - absolutely zero information or ANY DATA whatsoever regarding incidence/prevalence or % of "contamination" - and it's bc they really don't have any. They also, interestingly, neglected to mention that pretty much every bag of dog kibble tests positive for salmonella (lol!)! But nope, no mention of that.

Too bad we can't survey the actual canid/canine species itself - which has been around for 60 million years now...eating raw meat. :rolleyes:

Do what feels best for you and yours after gathering all the info you can :).
It seems weird we trust the AVMA for all our other protocols but not this one?

canana 12-22-2016 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rachael1983 (Post 4684581)
Raw Dog Food Diet: Benefits and Risks

I found a few resources by a simple google search. I think that its pretty safe to give your dog raw chicken (careful with bones, etc) however given that a dogs digestive track can handle the bacteria often in raw food the expectation that it would cause the dog to get sick is different than it is for humans with salmonella for example.

I think with a raw diet, you run the risk of not being nutritionally balanced so I think you should research more since your pupper doesn't care for rice and veggies.
Feeding raw is supposedly good for their digestive system and their gut. But I agree with Rachael that it's the balanced diet you should be more concerned with. It's the main reason I decided to stick with a quality kibble (and also the fact that feeding raw is quite a bit more costly).

Wylie's Mom 12-23-2016 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4684891)
It seems weird we trust the AVMA for all our other protocols but not this one?
I'm not part of the "we" you're referring to - and never have been. I don't blindly trust *any* group such as this...whether the AMA, AVMA, AAHA, FDA, USDA....you name it. They have reasons for putting out this kind of information and those reasons are not always what they seem. These organizations make *huge* compromises that are not necessarily in line, at all, with what really should be done (see the AAHA and its always-behind-the-times vaccine protocol history!!!)...and money is often the motivator.

Groups such as these often have motivations that aren't in the best interests of the population they are actually meant to serve....so always have your eyes open :eek:;). Unfortunate, but true. For example, does the USDA protect the puppy mill dogs that it's supposed to.....um, no...no, not at all. Is the FDA really for us, or is it more geared towards Big Ag...:rolleyes:..? Be careful of believing in / trusting organizations that have or want political power and/or have lobbyist functions. I hate being this cynical, but that's the world we live in right now, unforch.

navillusc 12-23-2016 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4684997)
I'm not part of the "we" you're referring to - and never have been. I don't blindly trust *any* group such as this...whether the AMA, AVMA, AAHA, FDA, USDA....you name it. They have reasons for putting out this kind of information and those reasons are not always what they seem. These organizations make *huge* compromises that are not necessarily in line, at all, with what really should be done (see the AAHA and its always-behind-the-times vaccine protocol history!!!)...and money is often the motivator.

Groups such as these often have motivations that aren't in the best interests of the population they are actually meant to serve....so always have your eyes open :eek:;). Unfortunate, but true. For example, does the USDA protect the puppy mill dogs that it's supposed to.....um, no...no, not at all. Is the FDA really for us, or is it more geared towards Big Ag...:rolleyes:..? Be careful of believing in / trusting organizations that have or want political power and/or have lobbyist functions. I hate being this cynical, but that's the world we live in right now, unforch.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

lillymae 12-23-2016 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4684997)
I'm not part of the "we" you're referring to - and never have been. I don't blindly trust *any* group such as this...whether the AMA, AVMA, AAHA, FDA, USDA....you name it. They have reasons for putting out this kind of information and those reasons are not always what they seem. These organizations make *huge* compromises that are not necessarily in line, at all, with what really should be done (see the AAHA and its always-behind-the-times vaccine protocol history!!!)...and money is often the motivator.

Groups such as these often have motivations that aren't in the best interests of the population they are actually meant to serve....so always have your eyes open :eek:;). Unfortunate, but true. For example, does the USDA protect the puppy mill dogs that it's supposed to.....um, no...no, not at all. Is the FDA really for us, or is it more geared towards Big Ag...:rolleyes:..? Be careful of believing in / trusting organizations that have or want political power and/or have lobbyist functions. I hate being this cynical, but that's the world we live in right now, unforch.
Totally agree !:thumbup:
Also as far as the bones go, RAW chicken or any other bones are fine as they are soft and/or rubbery it's only COOKED bones that you need to worry about as they are hard, brittle and splintery. The BARF diet is meant to duplicate their natural diet as is in the wild & wolves eat the WHOLE kill starting with the intestines & organs & the uncooked bone marrow is VERY Healthy for them. In fact if you don't wish to feed the BARF diet , you can break or cut up the raw bones & soak them in water in the fridge for a couple of days then boil them in that water & give your pups the water from the boiled bones that now contains the marrow. Definitely not as healthy as the RAW but still good for them & they Love it.

lillymae 12-24-2016 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aweitzm1 (Post 4684559)
Boomer will finally eat raw chicken if I hand feed it to him. Does anyone know if that is safe? I know a lot of people do raw diets. He won't touch the rice or any veggies. He did have some of his old kibble (not a lot) yesterday.
Have you tried steaming any veggies for him ? Sometimes when they are not used to eating raw veggies OR meat, if you cook it enough to get the smell in the air they will eat it & then give them the raw. All of my pups go CRAZY when I'm steaming Broccoli for myself because they know they are getting some too & they LOVE it.


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