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LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 01:51 PM

NAPR to AKC?
 
I got papers to Register my dog with NAPR I still haven't done it yet. Would I be able to register Beowulf with AKC if I register him with NAPR? I dont know how this works. :confused:

Bambee 11-09-2015 01:56 PM

I have never heard of it..I have heard of CKC (continental) which to me is a scam to charge you more for a dog because its "registered"
I think the breeder should have given you papers for AKC in order to register your baby through AKC.

My breeder gave me the papers the same day I got her to register her through AKC and it shows the mom and dads name on it...

LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambee (Post 4602729)
I have never heard of it..I have heard of CKC (continental) which to me is a scam to charge you more for a dog because its "registered"
I think the breeder should have given you papers for AKC in order to register your baby through AKC.

My breeder gave me the papers the same day I got her to register her through AKC and it shows the mom and dads name on it...

So the paper she gave me has mom and dads name on it and it sais they are registered with AKC but the paper I got was for NAPR (North American Purebred Registry) Is that weird? Should I call these places and ask about this breeder?

TxVicki 11-09-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602728)
I got papers to Register my dog with NAPR I still haven't done it yet. Would I be able to register Beowulf with AKC if I register him with NAPR? I dont know how this works. :confused:

HMMMMM never heard of NAPR> I know there is CKC and APRI both of which are scams and it sounds like this NAPR may be a scam as well. You have to have the AKC papers to be able to register.

Bambee 11-09-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602730)
So the paper she gave me has mom and dads name on it and it sais they are registered with AKC but the paper I got was for NAPR (North American Purebred Registry) Is that weird? Should I call these places and ask about this breeder?

definitely look into it..your baby was pricey and they should have given you AKC papers if that what they promised when you purchased your baby!

Yorkiemom1 11-09-2015 02:44 PM

Information on NAPR:

If you are new to the registration process, we make it simple. If you have a single dog that you want to register and get papers on, just complete our individual registration application. If you have a litter of puppies, complete our litter registration application.

If your dog is already registered with the AKC, CKC, or another registry service, you can certainly register them with us as well by completing the individual application. This is called dual-registration and they will not lose their existing registration.
We offer an extremely quick, no-hassle, and friendly registration process.

HISTORY

In, 1995 we started a dog registry named the North American Beagle Registry. During this time, very few registration groups were available to pet owners and breeders. Because of the small number of clubs, their service was extremely slow and not focused on their customers. Breeders were not receiving their litter papers back in time to sell the pups, sometimes waiting 4 to 5 months. This slack service caused the breeders customers to be angry and mistrustful, causing these dog owners and breeders to look for another way to accomplish the registration process. So in 1998, we branched out from only Beagles and opened registration to all dogs, forming the North American Purebred Dog Registry (NAPDR).

In 2009, we incorporated and shortened our name to the North American Purebred Registry, Inc.

The NAPR is a registry dedicated to the dog breeder as well as people who have just 1 or 2 pets in their family. We do not cater to puppy mills, or to those that are simply interested in selling animals for quick gain. We do not offer bulk discounts. We do not send out blank pedigrees for people to fill in however they want. We operate in this manner because we do not want to attract the wrong kind of business. We want good, honest breeders, or pet owners that have the same goals; the continuing health and happiness of pets and pet owners.

In 2015, we acquired The Central Animal Registry.

The goals of NAPR are as follows:

-Serve those pet owners and conscientious breeders who truly have the best interest of their animals at heart

-Maintain impeccable records

-24 hour turnaround service after receiving an application from the customers

-Treat clients with the utmost respect and courtesy

-Maintain the most reasonable, competitive fees in the industry

You, our customer, are our most valued and important asset. We continually try to make the registration process as simple and sensible as possible for you, whether you have one or many animals in your family or kennel. Each of you is equally important in our registration family.

LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4602738)
Information on NAPR:

If you are new to the registration process, we make it simple. If you have a single dog that you want to register and get papers on, just complete our individual registration application. If you have a litter of puppies, complete our litter registration application.

If your dog is already registered with the AKC, CKC, or another registry service, you can certainly register them with us as well by completing the individual application. This is called dual-registration and they will not lose their existing registration.
We offer an extremely quick, no-hassle, and friendly registration process.

HISTORY

In, 1995 we started a dog registry named the North American Beagle Registry. During this time, very few registration groups were available to pet owners and breeders. Because of the small number of clubs, their service was extremely slow and not focused on their customers. Breeders were not receiving their litter papers back in time to sell the pups, sometimes waiting 4 to 5 months. This slack service caused the breeders customers to be angry and mistrustful, causing these dog owners and breeders to look for another way to accomplish the registration process. So in 1998, we branched out from only Beagles and opened registration to all dogs, forming the North American Purebred Dog Registry (NAPDR).

In 2009, we incorporated and shortened our name to the North American Purebred Registry, Inc.

The NAPR is a registry dedicated to the dog breeder as well as people who have just 1 or 2 pets in their family. We do not cater to puppy mills, or to those that are simply interested in selling animals for quick gain. We do not offer bulk discounts. We do not send out blank pedigrees for people to fill in however they want. We operate in this manner because we do not want to attract the wrong kind of business. We want good, honest breeders, or pet owners that have the same goals; the continuing health and happiness of pets and pet owners.

In 2015, we acquired The Central Animal Registry.

The goals of NAPR are as follows:

-Serve those pet owners and conscientious breeders who truly have the best interest of their animals at heart

-Maintain impeccable records

-24 hour turnaround service after receiving an application from the customers

-Treat clients with the utmost respect and courtesy

-Maintain the most reasonable, competitive fees in the industry

You, our customer, are our most valued and important asset. We continually try to make the registration process as simple and sensible as possible for you, whether you have one or many animals in your family or kennel. Each of you is equally important in our registration family.

So I take it you give your customers NAPR paper registrations too? So.. its not a scam?

capt_noonie 11-09-2015 04:51 PM

I'm pretty sure yorkiemom1 only registers her dogs with AKC. It is the ONLY real and reputable registry out there.

The breeder probably gave you the NAPR papers bc they did not have rights to breed her AKC dogs in the first place. That is a huge red flag. Even if the breeder did in fact have rights to breed her AKC dogs and didn't register the pups (or have the AKC papers for the pups for the buyers to register the pups) shows that she is being cheap and taking shortcuts. So where else did she take shortcuts?

Even if your dog was able to register AKC, there really is no reason unless you plan on showing, or you just want to pay for it just for the record. But any other registry, it is pointless and not worth the paper they are printed on. You can register any dog as any breed, and they don't check the lines. As long as the check clears they will register your dog. Not so with AKC.

Yorkiemom1 11-09-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602743)
So I take it you give your customers NAPR paper registrations too? So.. its not a scam?

No, I still cling to the AKC! I have some of my dogs double registered with AKC as well as CKC (Canadian Kennel Club, NOT the continental kennel club!!) I am old and set in my ways....I will go down with the AKC!!!!

LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 07:25 PM

So I guess I was just so excited about getting my new pup that I didn't listen to what she was saying. I asked my bf about it and he said she did offer the AKC papers but she wanted $4,000 for it because she didn't want us breeding our pup and competing with her. My head was in the clouds when she said this cause that is just rediculously high for papers. Though I did get the cutest pup of the litters she had. She said she paid $5,000 for Beowulf's father hes an Argentine stud and only weighed 2 lbs she had him on site but not his mom he was beautiful pure black and gold I could understand why I guess but IMHO she was a gypsy.:rolleyes:

LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 07:32 PM

So would I be able to register him with akc on my own? If so for how much?

Yorkiemom1 11-09-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602784)
So I guess I was just so excited about getting my new pup that I didn't listen to what she was saying. I asked my bf about it and he said she did offer the AKC papers but she wanted $4,000 for it because she didn't want us breeding our pup and competing with her. My head was in the clouds when she said this cause that is just rediculously high for papers. Though I did get the cutest pup of the litters she had. She said she paid $5,000 for Beowulf's father hes an Argentine stud and only weighed 2 lbs she had him on site but not his mom he was beautiful pure black and gold I could understand why I guess but IMHO she was a gypsy.:rolleyes:

So I dont understand why she just does not sell the puppy with a spay neuter contract....when you spay the pup, you send the breeder proof and she sends your AKC papers.....this is what I do....never had any issues or problems from my owners!
.............something doesnt smell right to me.....but hey, I could be wrong!

capt_noonie 11-09-2015 07:35 PM

That's another red flag when they ask for more money for AKC papers. Reputable breeders don't do that, and they would sell their pups on a spay/neuter contract anyway. So she asked $4000 with AKC papers, may I ask how much you ended up paying?

It's also kind of weird that she had the sire on site and not the dam. Usually it is the other way around if they don't have both of them.

Well, count it as a lesson learned and consider trying to educate others from now on. Lots of us, including me, made a mistake when buying our first yorkie.

LoveMyBeowulf 11-09-2015 07:43 PM

She does stud service with her sire she had a female on site but it wasn't his mom she had about 3 different litters same sire different dams. Idk but my bf did not want to neuter him anyway. She was a gypsy I can't deny she ended up not answering our phone calls anymore because we were suppose to take him to her for his last parvo shot free of charge. And our frigerator broke down so we couldn't make it. I called her and told her she said she had already mixed the medication and it was now going to waste because she didn't have another pup born the same day as mine. She said he needed his shot within the next 3 days I tried calling her my bf called her I left her a VM no call back. I paid $1,200 for him. She did give me a one year health guarantee contract, but she was pretty shady for not answering our calls.

capt_noonie 11-09-2015 07:51 PM

Uni is my first yorkie and I got her from a less than trustworthy person also. She told me what shots were given but when I told the vet he said if the shots weren't given by a vet or clinic they were basically worthless. Also that one year guarantee isn't much good if she doesn't return your calls. I would really suggest getting pet insurance now before she is diagnosed with anything, otherwise it would be considered a pre-existing condition.

Yorkiemom1 11-09-2015 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602789)
She does stud service with her sire she had a female on site but it wasn't his mom she had about 3 different litters same sire different dams. Idk but my bf did not want to neuter him anyway. She was a gypsy I can't deny she ended up not answering our phone calls anymore because we were suppose to take him to her for his last parvo shot free of charge. And our frigerator broke down so we couldn't make it. I called her and told her she said she had already mixed the medication and it was now going to waste because she didn't have another pup born the same day as mine. She said he needed his shot within the next 3 days I tried calling her my bf called her I left her a VM no call back. I paid $1,200 for him. She did give me a one year health guarantee contract, but she was pretty shady for not answering our calls.

:thumbdown
This is all BS...NeoPar, which is the shot for parvo....and I have had MAJOR experience with parvo!!!....I learned everything about parvo and the shots given to protect your pup, and this person is not being honest with you....I give a shot of NeoPar to my female before she is bred, in order to build up her immunity against parvo....then I give the babies a shot of NeoPar when they are 4 weeks old, and they start their vaccinations at 8 weeks of age, which also include a vaccine against parvo..... Just know this person is not being honest with you on many, many different levels.....hopefully, your pup did get vaccinated....

I do not agree with many vets who do not accept a health record from a breeder that has the vaccination labels secured to the health record, with the date the vaccination was given. I worked for a vet....he did the same thing, because that meant re vaccination, which was money in HIS pocket.....If you are buying from a reputable breeder, she is more concerned with her puppies health than lying to a new owner, and perhaps having her precious baby exposed to parvo or any of the other diseases the vaccinations she gives, covers....why in the world lie about that? Not only that, you have to attach the vaccine label with the lot number and the expiration date of the vaccine printed on the label...all the vet has to do is contact the manufacturer and they have a record of who bought that lot#, when it was purchased, and when it expires......so vets not accepting legitimate vaccination records from reputable breeders, is just to line their own pockets. Reputable breeders keep their babies until vaccinations are given, 12-14-16 weeks of age....vaccinations are not started before 8 weeks of age, in order to not conflict with mothers immunity passed onto the babies, negating the effectiveness of the vaccine. It is just so easy for these vets to deny any vaccinations given by any breeder....but no concern for overdosing the baby with vaccines!

LoveMyBeowulf 11-10-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4602793)
:thumbdown
This is all BS...NeoPar, which is the shot for parvo....and I have had MAJOR experience with parvo!!!....I learned everything about parvo and the shots given to protect your pup, and this person is not being honest with you....I give a shot of NeoPar to my female before she is bred, in order to build up her immunity against parvo....then I give the babies a shot of NeoPar when they are 4 weeks old, and they start their vaccinations at 8 weeks of age, which also include a vaccine against parvo..... Just know this person is not being honest with you on many, many different levels.....hopefully, your pup did get vaccinated....

I do not agree with many vets who do not accept a health record from a breeder that has the vaccination labels secured to the health record, with the date the vaccination was given. I worked for a vet....he did the same thing, because that meant re vaccination, which was money in HIS pocket.....If you are buying from a reputable breeder, she is more concerned with her puppies health than lying to a new owner, and perhaps having her precious baby exposed to parvo or any of the other diseases the vaccinations she gives, covers....why in the world lie about that? Not only that, you have to attach the vaccine label with the lot number and the expiration date of the vaccine printed on the label...all the vet has to do is contact the manufacturer and they have a record of who bought that lot#, when it was purchased, and when it expires......so vets not accepting legitimate vaccination records from reputable breeders, is just to line their own pockets. Reputable breeders keep their babies until vaccinations are given, 12-14-16 weeks of age....vaccinations are not started before 8 weeks of age, in order to not conflict with mothers immunity passed onto the babies, negating the effectiveness of the vaccine. It is just so easy for these vets to deny any vaccinations given by any breeder....but no concern for overdosing the baby with vaccines!

I did get a health record for him with vaccination labels on it. I have a one year health guarantee agreement with both mine and her signature on it. He got all of his shots he just needed one last parvo shot. I think she cared about her puppies and she gave me some morning and night medication for heart worm and hypoglycemia they came in syringes one was white for the day time and one was yellow butterscotch flavored for the night. So I'm pretty sure she made sure she gave me a healthy puppy, but she was still a little shady for not caring about him getting his last shot. He was born 5/14/15 I got him 8/17/15 she wanted him to come back 9/10 for his last parvo shot. So I don't think she was a total terrible breeder but it didn't end so well.

LoveMyBeowulf 11-10-2015 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4602791)
Uni is my first yorkie and I got her from a less than trustworthy person also. She told me what shots were given but when I told the vet he said if the shots weren't given by a vet or clinic they were basically worthless. Also that one year guarantee isn't much good if she doesn't return your calls. I would really suggest getting pet insurance now before she is diagnosed with anything, otherwise it would be considered a pre-existing condition.

She had a vet she was working with though could he have given her the medication? She recommended that I took Beowulf to him because he specializes in working with yorkies. She's not answering our calls but I could easily go to that vet and find her through him if I really needed to.

LoveMyBeowulf 11-10-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602862)
I did get a health record for him with vaccination labels on it. I have a one year health guarantee agreement with both mine and her signature on it. He got all of his shots he just needed one last parvo shot. I think she cared about her puppies and she gave me some morning and night medication for heart worm and hypoglycemia they came in syringes one was white for the day time and one was yellow butterscotch flavored for the night. So I'm pretty sure she made sure she gave me a healthy puppy, but she was still a little shady for not caring about him getting his last shot. He was born 5/14/15 I got him 8/17/15 she wanted him to come back 9/10 for his last parvo shot. So I don't think she was a total terrible breeder but it didn't end so well.

I made a mistake on the morning/night meds it was the other way around lol yellow/day white/night

LoveMyBeowulf 11-10-2015 08:51 AM

I just want to know if I can still get him AKC registered on my own.

Bambee 11-10-2015 09:04 AM

you should call the AKC and see what they tell you, when I registered my baby it said you can register your dogs but I believe they might ask for DNA testing....

rhhh75572 11-10-2015 09:05 AM

If you don't have papers from the breeder, you cannot get you baby AKC registered without providing proof of spay or neuter. If you are not planning on neutering the pup, then you cannot register without papers from breeder.

Mayzoo 11-10-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4602791)
Uni is my first yorkie and I got her from a less than trustworthy person also. She told me what shots were given but when I told the vet he said if the shots weren't given by a vet or clinic they were basically worthless. Also that one year guarantee isn't much good if she doesn't return your calls. I would really suggest getting pet insurance now before she is diagnosed with anything, otherwise it would be considered a pre-existing condition.

I give my dogs their shots and have never had an issue with it being accepted by any vet or organization. I keep the labels from the bottles and put them on the back of the shot records, and properly mark the shot records as well. The bottle labels are designed to be removed and placed somewhere.

Must just depends on the vet and how the records were kept.

Bambee 11-10-2015 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4602793)
:thumbdown
This is all BS...NeoPar, which is the shot for parvo....and I have had MAJOR experience with parvo!!!....I learned everything about parvo and the shots given to protect your pup, and this person is not being honest with you....I give a shot of NeoPar to my female before she is bred, in order to build up her immunity against parvo....then I give the babies a shot of NeoPar when they are 4 weeks old, and they start their vaccinations at 8 weeks of age, which also include a vaccine against parvo..... Just know this person is not being honest with you on many, many different levels.....hopefully, your pup did get vaccinated....

I do not agree with many vets who do not accept a health record from a breeder that has the vaccination labels secured to the health record, with the date the vaccination was given. I worked for a vet....he did the same thing, because that meant re vaccination, which was money in HIS pocket.....If you are buying from a reputable breeder, she is more concerned with her puppies health than lying to a new owner, and perhaps having her precious baby exposed to parvo or any of the other diseases the vaccinations she gives, covers....why in the world lie about that? Not only that, you have to attach the vaccine label with the lot number and the expiration date of the vaccine printed on the label...all the vet has to do is contact the manufacturer and they have a record of who bought that lot#, when it was purchased, and when it expires......so vets not accepting legitimate vaccination records from reputable breeders, is just to line their own pockets. Reputable breeders keep their babies until vaccinations are given, 12-14-16 weeks of age....vaccinations are not started before 8 weeks of age, in order to not conflict with mothers immunity passed onto the babies, negating the effectiveness of the vaccine. It is just so easy for these vets to deny any vaccinations given by any breeder....but no concern for overdosing the baby with vaccines!

I am glad to read this, because the breeder where I got my baby had given her the shots himself too, I never thought they would be no good, what kind of dog lover/breeder would lie to someone about that....I feel better now

Parti Peanut 11-10-2015 12:16 PM

I don't believe you will be able to get AKC papers on your puppy by contacting the AKC. Unless AKC has changed the way they handle registrations, the breeder of the litter submits a litter registration form with the AKC. This has all the information about the mother and father (AKC numbers) and the number and sex and date of birth of the puppies in that litter. AKC then sends the breeder the registration applications for each puppy in the litter. This is the form the breeder would give you to send in to AKC to register the puppy in your name.

capt_noonie 11-10-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambee (Post 4602875)
I am glad to read this, because the breeder where I got my baby had given her the shots himself too, I never thought they would be no good, what kind of dog lover/breeder would lie to someone about that....I feel better now

The kind of person who I got my Uni from; a liar, a broker, a person who makes money off the backs of dogs. If you get your dog from a reputable breeder like yorkiemom1 then that's a different story. I was telling my story.

Also yorkiemom1 also makes another point, that many vets will say the shots are no good so they can charge you for their shots, and yes not caring about over vaccinating. Not all vets are good either.

gemy 11-12-2015 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveMyBeowulf (Post 4602784)
So I guess I was just so excited about getting my new pup that I didn't listen to what she was saying. I asked my bf about it and he said she did offer the AKC papers but she wanted $4,000 for it because she didn't want us breeding our pup and competing with her. My head was in the clouds when she said this cause that is just rediculously high for papers. Though I did get the cutest pup of the litters she had. She said she paid $5,000 for Beowulf's father hes an Argentine stud and only weighed 2 lbs she had him on site but not his mom he was beautiful pure black and gold I could understand why I guess but IMHO she was a gypsy.:rolleyes:

Does not pass my sniff test She does not want you breeding - sell the pup on a spay neuter contract! By the way Black n Gold is NOT to the standard it is Blue and Tan for show standard!!!

I would call the AKC and ask about registering your pup with them - btw have your paperwork handy so you can relate the show registered names of dam n sire.


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