Originally Posted by SirTeddykins (Post 4550417)

People have criticized me for buying a purebred dog but those people were the same people who bought from BYB and even told me that I could have gotten my dog 'cheaper' elsewhere. I have never told anyone, apart from you all on YT, how much I paid for Teddy. So, there are some strange perspectives from others re: rescues, breeders and what I call 'true breeders' who breed for the betterment of a particular breed.


I do not feel guilty for buying Teddy from a breeder who is part of Englands Kennel Club and is also president of the Yorkshire Terrier Club of England and who is also a Crufts show judge and international show judge. I have been called a 'snob' for sourcing him in the way I did which I find extremely disappointing. I made sure that I went to the people dedicated to preserving the standards of the Yorkshire Terrier and who ensure that his health, and his parents health, are paramount.


I have heard appalling things re: shelters and I have heard appalling things re: 'breeders'. Recently, we all learned of the lengths people will go to when that poor Irish setter was poisoned during a Crufts dog show. So, evil can manifest even from those dedicated to preserving a breed.


I would say, therefore, that research needs to be undertaken to analyze the source of any animal. Reckless breeding leads to shelters, life events, etc., it's true. But the animals in shelters are just as deserving of love as any other animal.


The ONLY thing I disagree with are those people who set out to breed with no prior experience and no desire to better a breed. The people who breed for money or 'just because they wanted to' really do offend me with their ignorance. But, all we can try to do is educate to ensure that these shelters populations reduce because it is cruel to leave dogs in a cage with no certainty of a happy life which they deserve all because someone 'wanted a puppy'.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4550451)

That last comment is actually not true. A legitimate rescue is very upfront about what they do. If a rescue is 501c3 you can always look up their 990s at GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers, and businesses Their money is reportable and they must be accountable. That paperwork alone does not make a group reputable but it does make them account for funds coming in and expenditures.

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea (Post 4550471)

I'd agree with you 100%, IF, no one ever cheated on their taxes.

I stand by my last comment as being 100% fact!
"I applaud the work of the legitimate rescues, but, only they would truly know their numbers."

A good waitress is still a good waitress even if she doesn't report every dime of her tips. So, I wouldn't condemn a rescue for a little fudge on the paper work now and then. It's just those real greedy bastards that have made it into a paying hobby that have people so irked. They would be the illegitimate ones.

I'll add, any rescue or shelter that gets an otherwise unwanted dog into a loving and caring home is ok in my book. Keep up the good work LJ. ;)

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4550451)

That last comment is actually not true. A legitimate rescue is very upfront about what they do. If a rescue is 501c3 you can always look up their 990s at GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers, and businesses Their money is reportable and they must be accountable. That paperwork alone does not make a group reputable but it does make them account for funds coming in and expenditures.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4550455)

I don't know why you would be criticized for buying .. it really is no one's business.

As for rescues who think everyone should adopt, that is just some rescues and/or rescuers. Not everyone wants to adopt....they love having a puppy and raising him/her. Nothing wrong with that. I have guided people who have asked for information about where to buy a puppy.

I do believe it is important to speak out against bad and indiscriminate breeding. That is for the good of everyone and the pups.

Originally Posted by Rachael1983 (Post 4550532)

The choice for me breeder over rescue comes from our lifestyle. Some rescues have criteria and I know we wouldn't meet those. And also I have a child, so I believe that if you raise from puppyhood it's better for children (i do know that's not always the case) but it's worked for us.

I do think people look at me crazy when I say I looked for a breeder but it's my money, my choices and none of their business.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4550622)

You mentioned that you are not a breeder "yet", so my assumption is that it is in your plans. Yeah, I know about the assume word.

But, bottom line, if you are keeping intact animals in your home, you are correct....not something rescue approves of for a home and to top it off, if you want them intact, you wouldn't adopt anyway. So, not exactly sure about your reasoning between breeder and rescue.

Originally Posted by Rachael1983 (Post 4550532)

The choice for me breeder over rescue comes from our lifestyle. Some rescues have criteria and I know we wouldn't meet those. And also I have a child, so I believe that if you raise from puppyhood it's better for children (i do know that's not always the case) but it's worked for us.

I do think people look at me crazy when I say I looked for a breeder but it's my money, my choices and none of their business.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4550622)

You mentioned that you are not a breeder "yet", so my assumption is that it is in your plans. Yeah, I know about the assume word.

But, bottom line, if you are keeping intact animals in your home, you are correct....not something rescue approves of for a home and to top it off, if you want them intact, you wouldn't adopt anyway. So, not exactly sure about your reasoning between breeder and rescue.

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea (Post 4550446)

https://www.petfinder.com/pet-search...&page_number=0

If you look at this sample search at petfinder.com , you'll see most of the yorkies listed within about 500 miles of me don't look anything like a yorkie or yorkie mix for that matter. The ones that don't list their prices tend to be much higher than you'd expect to pay for a rescue. Toss your own location and distance in to see who is near you.

The MAIN reason I posted this is Jesse and Kirby in OR. https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/31310586 I'm pretty sure they were available when I adopted Zippy last Thanksgiving. Who would care for a pair? They are waiting! ;)