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Doodlebug 03-15-2015 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 4539205)
Be careful. A pit can easily jump a 6 foot fence: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+%286ft%2C6%29
OMG!!!!! I am going to look at those and show my husband. I might have to attach barbed wire to the top and look like a prison. That sure is scary. The saving grace that I have though is that I am the only one with a privacy fence and since they can't see through at my pups so much anymore, they have pretty much forgotten about my kids and they are focused on everything they can see through the chain link. Thanks for posting the links. I am about to get an eye opener.

Doodlebug 03-15-2015 07:04 AM
So far, the fourth one is the scariest. That one is the most like my fence but the boards going across halfway up the fence that the pit is using to hoist himself are on my side and there is no corner like that on their side. Hopefully that will help.

ironmike86 03-15-2015 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 4539205)
Be careful. A pit can easily jump a 6 foot fence: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+%286ft%2C6%29
So can Coyote's and they are stealth everywhere . Main thing never leave your dogs un attended.

OwnedByJezebel 03-15-2015 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ironmike86 (Post 4539217)
So can Coyote's and they are stealth everywhere . Main thing never leave your dogs un attended.
Great point! A 6 ft fence is NOTHING to a coyote.

yorkietalkjilly 03-15-2015 09:02 AM
Yep, it takes a really high fence to keep all but the small pitties contained - most say 8 feet to be safe as pitties are getting ever larger, taller. Saw a 174 lb. one on Twitter the other day. Their power is unbelievable when they are highly motivated. I've seen regular-sized Mallinois go up and over 10 and 12 foot sheer wooden walls/slabs and a GSD even jump onto a forward-sloping roof from a running start by bouncing its feet first on the side of the house and on up and onto the roof! Don't know how big dogs manage some of the things they do.

Doodlebug 03-15-2015 10:22 AM
I don't leave my babies outside unattended, too much going on on all sides of the fence. I love to sit outside and read or work crosswords or garden. So I keep busy but always have an eyeball on the pups. If any of the neighboring dogs are out I am watching them. But they don't bother mine much anymore.

The only animals I have seen around here besides rabbits and bunnies is once I saw an opossum. My pups are a little big for a hawk but I have seen a hawk around and one actually swooped at Teddy once but then left him alone. I keep my eye on the sky too. I worry more about them getting bit by a spider again than I do a coyote. Never heard of one around here. Those dogs scaling fences are super scary.

gemy 03-15-2015 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ironmike86 (Post 4538884)
IMO doesn't matter what the neighbors think. Mine had a GSD who was smart, nice ect...But oneday it lunged at my 8yr old daughter.....15yrs ago.... But I never trusted him. He would off leash ect. I seen him coming I grabbed my daughter in MY yard and kick the heck outta the dog. Next day I put a fence all around my house then planted hedges and blocked there view.. I don't care my yard. Dog seen my kid as prey or competition. He was young. We still don't talk much. I'm about protecting mine

I like GSD's fpr the most part. But they need the right owner. We had a young female police officer our next door neighbour buy one. This was when my Yorkie was young, and we had an older Blackie and young pup Blackie. These are large dogs - my older male weighed in around 130


We noted not enough exercising or training of the GSD. And one day, my silly Yorkie went to charge his front window the GSD's. My fault as I always try to train go home with my young dogs


It was early summer, and that GSD broke the screen and charged my Yorkie - I was beside myself. But he was young and my Yorkie very aggressive with him, and backed him up - I was behind trying to get in front. Luckily my big Boy roared from the sidewalk - my husband kept him in control - which would not have happened if that GSD really went for either me or Razzle.


The point is this GSD never stood a chance with these owners. He apparently was put down for biting folks the third time.... I think pitbulls or for that matter any large breed is similar. You GOT TO TRAIN them, and know always what is under your leash!!

gracielove 03-15-2015 02:55 PM
I have known some very nice Pit Bulls but I would never let my Gracie near one, even if well trained. The Pit Bull can be a wonderful breed but very poor breeding practices have ruined much of the gene pool just as we are seeing happen to the Yorkie.

Sadly, the scum that do this to Pit Bulls breed to get larger and more aggressive temperaments. That kind of irresponsible breeding just creates all kinds of problems for any breed.

As in most cases the pet buyer has no idea what kind of breeder they are dealing with or the danger of getting an unstable or genetically damaged pup.

Yorkshire Terriers are suffering from a long list of genetic disorders plus some serious temperament issues due to poor breeding practices just like the Pit Bull. Because they are not big muscular dogs no one is putting up a big fuss about the damage being done to the breed. People think they can just sweep the whole issue away by banning a breed but what needs to be done is to end the indiscriminate breeding of pet animals.

ironmike86 03-15-2015 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4539342)

Yorkshire Terriers are suffering from a long list of genetic disorders plus some serious temperament issues due to poor breeding practices just like the Pit Bull. Because they are not big muscular dogs no one is putting up a big fuss about the damage being done to the breed. People think they can just sweep the whole issue away by banning a breed but what needs to be done is to end the indiscriminate breeding of pet animals.
:thumbup: if only possible

Maximo 03-15-2015 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Doodlebug (Post 4539210)
So far, the fourth one is the scariest. That one is the most like my fence but the boards going across halfway up the fence that the pit is using to hoist himself are on my side and there is no corner like that on their side. Hopefully that will help.
When we lived in Scottsdale, we had a 6' block fence. Our neighbor's mean Doberman could make it up on top of the fence. :( We always had to be outside with our smallish dog, and we kept implements handy in case of emergency.

Maximo 03-15-2015 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 4539342)
I have known some very nice Pit Bulls but I would never let my Gracie near one, even if well trained. The Pit Bull can be a wonderful breed but very poor breeding practices have ruined much of the gene pool just as we are seeing happen to the Yorkie.

Sadly, the scum that do this to Pit Bulls breed to get larger and more aggressive temperaments. That kind of irresponsible breeding just creates all kinds of problems for any breed.

As in most cases the pet buyer has no idea what kind of breeder they are dealing with or the danger of getting an unstable or genetically damaged pup.

Yorkshire Terriers are suffering from a long list of genetic disorders plus some serious temperament issues due to poor breeding practices just like the Pit Bull. Because they are not big muscular dogs no one is putting up a big fuss about the damage being done to the breed. People think they can just sweep the whole issue away by banning a breed but what needs to be done is to end the indiscriminate breeding of pet animals.
This is true to a point, but even well bred dogs are capable of aggression. People need to exercise responsibility with any dog.

Doodlebug 03-15-2015 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4539379)
When we lived in Scottsdale, we had a 6' block fence. Our neighbor's mean Doberman could make it up on top of the fence. :( We always had to be outside with our smallish dog, and we kept implements handy in case of emergency.
OMG! I do everything in my power to protect my pups. At this point I am realizing that you can never be 100% protected from a dog who wants to get your dog. The gate into my backyard is the regular cyclone fence type gate and any loose dog could get in My yard if they could jump the gate. When I had my cyclone fence I had two different dogs jump in my yard. One was a mean dalmatian who jumped in my yard while my babies were in the yard. I grabbed my pups and rushed them in the house. The dog wanted my babies and it ran around to my front door and clawed at my screen door and tore up the screen. We went and told the old lady who owned the dog and she called us liars and slammed the door in our face. The other was a strange dog I had never seen before.

Doodlebug 03-15-2015 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4539380)
This is true to a point, but even well bred dogs are capable of aggression. People need to exercise responsibility with any dog.
The pit who attacked was supposed to be from a good breeder, and not have the aggressive trait.

MarkFromSea 03-16-2015 12:31 AM
Here's sort of, only sort of, a funny story to lighten the mood some. Last Summer I was walking 4 1/2 pound Gucci in a park, a pit was with it's owners at the water's edge, I walked as far away from them as the shoreline, lawn and bushes allowed in order to pass them. An ample distance. As we passed, the pit, with this big stick in it's mouth, started walking our way, I moved between the pit and Gucci, Gucci is usually on my left, the pit was still 10 feet away. I didn't say a word. The woman owner spouted out, "he's not vicious", I responded with "it sorta looks it".... and we continued walking on our way when she yelled "your dog looks like the vicious one"... I stopped, looked down at this 4 1/2 pound elderly dog that hardly ever barks and certainly didn't bark today, then looked back at her and her boyfriend, he looked mortified and embarrassed, even the pit looked embarrassed what it's owner had just said, I just shook my head and kept walking... I was sorta pissed and sorta laughing at the same time.... Hey, that sounds good enough for a thread of it's very own.

Doodlebug 03-16-2015 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkFromSea (Post 4539443)
Here's sort of, only sort of, a funny story to lighten the mood some. Last Summer I was walking 4 1/2 pound Gucci in a park, a pit was with it's owners at the water's edge, I walked as far away from them as the shoreline, lawn and bushes allowed in order to pass them. An ample distance. As we passed, the pit, with this big stick in it's mouth, started walking our way, I moved between the pit and Gucci, Gucci is usually on my left, the pit was still 10 feet away. I didn't say a word. The woman owner spouted out, "he's not vicious", I responded with "it sorta looks it".... and we continued walking on our way when she yelled "your dog looks like the vicious one"... I stopped, looked down at this 4 1/2 pound elderly dog that hardly ever barks and certainly didn't bark today, then looked back at her and her boyfriend, he looked mortified and embarrassed, even the pit looked embarrassed what it's owner had just said, I just shook my head and kept walking... I was sorta pissed and sorta laughing at the same time.... Hey, that sounds good enough for a thread of it's very own.
Lol. My girl gets upset and gets aggressive if we pass by too close to another dog on the walking trail so I started picking her up when we pass just to spare everyone the headache. People with big dogs usually get offended, I guess because they assume I am trying to save my precious little dog from their monster dog....when the truth is that my dog is the monster and I know it. I get offended myself when the big dog owner shakes their head and mutters unkind remarks about little dogs. So I say something like....I got a killer here who would love to challenge your dog to a fight today but we decided to spare your dog today and let him go on to live another day. Usually everyone has a laugh and no one is offended. Most of the time we can just swing a wider path around the other dog, but not always.


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